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Title: 400/4 model kit
Post by: taysidedragon on December 20, 2018, 12:16:23 AM
I was looking for a suitable model kit to modify into a 400/4 when I discovered a Japanese manufacturer brought out 2 models about 3 years ago, one for each  basic version. A 1974 model with footrests on swingarm and a 1976 model with frame loops.
I've bought the later one and it's good quality moulding, on a par with Tamiya models.

Made by Aoshima and available in UK from Hiroboy.com or kentmodels.co.uk

Any other modellers out there?

Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: mike the bike on December 20, 2018, 04:09:22 AM
I bought the one with the red tank,the US version.   It was progressing well but it's been on stop for ages because I can't get the engine lined up in the frame.   I'm going to have to modify it,using some .5mm wire as the long engine mounting bolts.  My eyesight isn't as good as it was so I'm struggling a bit.  I should get off my arse and finish it.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Andych on December 31, 2018, 11:43:45 AM
I dont have the 400/4 kit (yet) but I did get a Tamiya 1/12 CB750 kit for Christmas, my other half admits she is encouraging my addiction :)
I havent opened up the kit yet but I know I need to get myself a few things.. glue, long tweezers and maybe even a good magnifying light (eyes are not the best for fine work) and a decent Airbrush setup.. I have other uses for the Airbrush anyway.

Where do others get their paint from? I am torn between the gold flake on the box and Candy Red... leaning slightly to Candy red really.
Now I need to go and see about ordering that 400/4 kit :)
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Andych on December 31, 2018, 11:52:58 AM
Pics of the box... I was wrong, it is a 1/6 size.

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Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Allington (Steve) on December 31, 2018, 10:42:04 PM
Wow! I swear I had that very same kit back in the very early 70’s?
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: flatfour on January 01, 2019, 08:46:42 AM
Over the winter, I normally build a few plastic models and last year built the CB750 shown. I painted it with some RS Paints aerosol gold, left over from painting a new side panel for the 500/4. With the careful use of plastic primer and lacquer, it has turned out fine, although rather darker than on the full size.

I found the kit a real challenge, in fact leaving it for long periods and then going back to it seemed to work best for me. The main problem was the need to scrape the "chrome" off all of the parts where a glued edge was required.

Anyway, it is on display now and looks good when finished!
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Andych on January 01, 2019, 12:24:19 PM
Thanks for that info.. I havent even opened the box yet but did watch a Youtube clip showing an unboxing.. and it does look to be a challenge.
I was kind of surprised at the size of it.. around 370mm long I believe when finished... not sure where I will display it when eventually finished though.
I need to check out some of the Airbrush paints to get the Candy Ruby Red.. seems a lot of them are Water-based but dont have a Candy colour at least the Triton range here .
I think Tamiya do a Candy Ruby Red... I figure I should maybe get the tank, side covers etc painted first and let them dry properly as a first step.

I would love to see a pic of the finished item if possible.. just to give me some inspiration :)
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: mike the bike on January 01, 2019, 01:47:32 PM
I use Humbol paints.  There's a few metallic in the range.  I can't be done with the water based shite.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Bryanj on January 01, 2019, 02:14:56 PM
Cant be arsed with water based, how you supposed to build them when you aint as high as a kite---------oh sorry thats the real ones!
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Spitfire on January 01, 2019, 02:29:27 PM
I constantly build models, usually aircraft, but I must admit I've always wanted that CB750 kit, I must get round to building one sometime, I used to build loads of model bikes in my misspent youth even carved racing tanks and seats out of balsa for a couple of CB72/77 kits that I built.

Cheers

Dennis
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: flatfour on January 01, 2019, 05:03:35 PM
Andych, I can't manage to post photographs on the forum however, if you would like to send me your e-mail address then I will happily take a couple of pictures and send them over to you. If you decide to do that, you are more than welcome to put them on the forum if you are able!

The finished model is, as you say quite large - I have just measured it at 27cm in length.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Andych on January 01, 2019, 08:42:18 PM
PM sent :)
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: flatfour on January 02, 2019, 08:44:07 AM
Andych, pm received and now just awaiting the camera battery to charge for pictures. I took a couple on the Smartphone, however quality poor even by my standards, so I'll not bother to send those!

Just into daylight here (around 30 minutes ago) and raining outside, 3c. Whilst I wouldn't want your 40C+ having spent a very hot summer in Japan this year, a little better than this would be welcome.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Moorey on January 02, 2019, 12:06:51 PM
Wow! I swear I had that very same kit back in the very early 70’s?

Me too. I also did one that was a moving cutaway 750sohc engine, but don't remember the maker. It even had flashing spark plugs.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: PHILIP2908 on January 05, 2019, 09:34:35 PM
I used to build loads of Airfix kits, mostly aircraft, when I was a kid and got quite good at modifying them into different variants etc.
So when I found an un-built Airfix railway loco in the loft a couple of months ago, I thought I'd build it to try an rekindle my early days.
Big mistake. I've nearly finished it and it looks like the work of a 4 year old. Glue smudges, wonky bits, hairs and dust in the paint.
The trouble is that at the age of 64, the eyesight has deteriorated, despite glasses, and the feeling in the finger tips is much reduced making handling small parts very difficult.
However, I was thinking of putting this together but with a little more care and because its a much bigger scale (1:12) so the parts are bigger:
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This is from Hiroboy, but out of stock at the moment, but have my name down for one.
This is a also an attempt at rekindling my youth as a B-reg C100 was my first Bike (in 1968) and the first of what became a succession of bigger and bigger Hondas.
Best regards,
Phil
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: taysidedragon on January 05, 2019, 09:57:54 PM
Good luck with the Super Cub. I'm having the same trouble with eyesight and fat fingers!

I started the 400 kit and even with tweezers I'm finding the tiny parts difficult. 😯

I'm surprised at the insane detail the Japanese have gone to. Internal parts supplied like the clutch, oil filter and sump plate and oil screen which you then glue the covers over and never see again! ☺
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: mike the bike on January 05, 2019, 11:08:07 PM
Not to mention the cylinder head and barrels
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: taysidedragon on January 05, 2019, 11:39:38 PM
Yeah Mike. Fiddly, ain't it? 😕
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Andych on January 05, 2019, 11:47:11 PM
Thank goodness I was given the 1/6 scale... it might just suit my poor old eyes :)
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: taysidedragon on January 18, 2019, 02:31:18 PM
Finally finished the 400/4 model. You were right Mike, lining up the engine, frame halves and all the other sub-assemblies at the same time was a pig of a job! I got there in the end but my eyesight and modelling skills aren't what they used to be. It ain't perfect but I'm happy.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 18, 2019, 03:05:28 PM
Wow, that's a nicely made model. Great detail 👍.
I've tried to get one but both shops selling them have no stock at present.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: andy120t on January 18, 2019, 04:07:22 PM
These aren't models to make, but I quite like them...(apart from the last one, which is a little unusual - althought the first line of the description makes a bold claim for the 400/4)..

https://scalebay.ru/listing/honda-cb400f-ucc-1-42/9302159

https://item.mercari.com/jp/m624141789/

http://yahoo.aleado.com/lot?auctionID=u250874677#enlargeimg

http://yahoo.aleado.com/lot?auctionID=j543828421#enlargeimg

https://www.ebay.com.sg/itm/Bandai-S-H-Figuarts-Hane-Sakura-School-Uniform-Honda-CB400-Super-Four-Bakuon/142640183582?hash=item213604791e:g:1SAAAOSwgmtaR3Aq:rk:13:pf:0

Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Andych on January 18, 2019, 10:55:17 PM
I havent even opened the box on mine yet... it has been too hot.. .Since Christmas Day almost every day has been mid 30's and higher with the last 4 days being over 40 Celcius. Yesterday topped out at 44....
Even with the Air Con pumping full tilt it is all you can do to sit there and watch the idiot box..
We have a slight reprieve today.. it is only 31 but heads over 35 tomorrow and for the rest of the week.. yay...
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: mike the bike on January 19, 2019, 06:04:09 AM
Yesterday it was so cold there was a dog stuck to a lamp post
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: taysidedragon on January 19, 2019, 11:53:25 AM
Yesterday it was so cold there was a dog stuck to a lamp post

I bet he felt a bit of a prick! 😊
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Moorey on January 19, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
This is the 750 engine model I built years ago and looks like its still available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkV94Qn6YbQ
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 19, 2019, 12:13:07 PM
This is the 750 engine model I built years ago and looks like its still available.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkV94Qn6YbQ
Wow, I like that. Why can't our customers CB750/4 engines be that small and light, every time I pick one up with Trig it nearly bloody kills me.
Title: Re: 400/4 model kit
Post by: Moorey on January 19, 2019, 12:25:07 PM
A pity he omits to show the spark plugs lighting up.
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