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Misc / Open / Re: F1 DOWNPIPE
« Last post by mickwinf on Today at 01:16:52 PM »
I have dealt with peter Holland via face book and found him to be very good with honest descriptions and reliable service.
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It's different but the same in some aspects as the old Mini Cooper S had taper roller bearings in the front hubs that were not adjustable you just torqued them up. The other Minis all  had plain ball bearings.
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Misc / Open / F1 DOWNPIPE
« Last post by paul G on Today at 12:27:38 PM »
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Only thing to add to that is that in design they take into effect that a ball bearing hates sideways load and will fail quickly if this is applied unless specificaly designed for this with different, expensive, races
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In concept, the inner race of the bearings form one complete tube along with the other bits mounted onto the axle, tightening should clamp all those elements tight together in one continuous load path.

In production reality and tolerancing, the bearing "seats" in the wheel casting and the bearing spacer length would have to be very accurate OR individually shimmed to get an exact match once torque is applied at assembly.

What the common design does is to to use one reference bearing (usually the chain side on rear, often left side on front) to fully fix the outer race hard against it's hub shoulder, then retainer ring to keep it from moving.

The opposite side is usually left with some space between outer track and wheel shoulder, this to effectively "float" in the wheel axialy. That can then be used for tolerance of the assembly comprising of primary bearing, spacers etc. Not too critical in other words, the primary bearing controlling lateral location.

It SHOULD turn freely when all tightened, but will accommodate some bearing preload if need be (that would mean spacer total was less than the two hub shoulder in dimensions) with any significant drag being cause for concern and a look at just what components and their placing is doing in there.

If the rear wheel was tightened with no brake drag and no chain fitted, then likely you'd feel some small shift in rotation with anything significant causing more concern. They should spin reasonably easily, but not like a bicycle wheel does  :)

It's odd to describe and sounds like a "fudge" to say so, but unlike setting a bearing arrangement for preloaded by measuring turning torque etc, these are just meant to be assembled, correctly,  with no real methods except assuring the right parts are used and in the right place.

Judgement would give that any significant changes as it's tightened should raise questions, as Ted's done, then investigating exactly how the various parts are installed to try and make absolutely sure all is in the right orientation.

Bit long winded, but difficult to describe in a different way,, possibly  :)
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Good fettling Ted. Sounds like you’re getting close just as the weather is picking up👍

I’ve previously been confused by the interaction of the spindle clamping and bearing fitment on other bikes. . Inner races spin easily after bearing  fitment  but then are pressed against the spacer tube by tightening the spindle. I’ve changed bearings thinking they were tight only to find they were fine once removed. Am I missing something?
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Out & About / Re: SOHC meet in Scotland
« Last post by taysidedragon on May 08, 2024, 11:51:06 PM »
29th is fine with me Gareth! 👍

 8)
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Misc / Open / Re: Chrome plater recommendations
« Last post by SteveW on May 08, 2024, 10:56:40 PM »
Thanks Ash, my quotes so far range from £80 to £192 for the pair.
I’ll message them tomorrow.
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Misc / Open / Re: Chrome plater recommendations
« Last post by AshimotoK0 on May 08, 2024, 10:09:27 PM »
I got some fork ears for my 500K0 re-chromed a couple of years back by Marque Restore in Coventry .. they were £35 each then so £90 is probably about right. They madea really good job. I dropped them off at Stafford show and they posted back in a couple of weeks. Not in your area I know but gives you a price guide.


I found this post Steve

https://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php?topic=17593.0
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Out & About / Re: First outing. 2024
« Last post by Johnwebley on May 08, 2024, 09:46:09 PM »
Enjoy

Looking good

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