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Title: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on September 13, 2014, 02:49:58 PM
My Tiger 800 doesn't have a centre stand so I bought this paddock stand during the summer.

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I changed the rear brake pads today and the brake cleaner seems to have disolved the glue that holds the rubber pads onto the frame.

Those of you "in the business", what glue should I use to fix them back on (rubber/steel)

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Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 13, 2014, 03:28:50 PM
Remove old adhesive/bonding agent and degrease. Coat both surfaces  with decent contact quality  adhesive like Evo-stick. Let it almost dry on both surfaces and then hold both glued surfaces in front of an infra-red lamp for a few seconds and then clamp together. Prof. W. Wake of RAPRA  in Shropshire told me that one. Yonks ago, as he drove an Allegro Vandenplas (walnut pick-nick tables in the back! The yukky mustard coloured one)   ::) He reckoned the secret was the irradiation of the surface with infra-red. His words to me in a meeting with ladies present was 'Do it that way my boy and it'll stick like sh*t to the proverbial'

Oh and just remembered he told me to clean the rubber surface with a mixture of Teepol and Trisodium-Orthophosphate. but I would just solvent de-grease it with a quick wipe and let it dry thoroughly.

Textile reinforcement of elastomers, c1982: t.p. (William C. Wake)
Synthetic adhesives and sealants, c1987: CIP t.p. (W.C. Wake; The City University, London, UK)
Structural adhesive joints in engineering, 1997: t.p. (the late W.C. Wake; MSc, PhD, DSc (Lond.), FRSC, FPRI, Hon. DSc. (The City University); formerly Vis. Prof., The City University, London, UK)

Great talking  to you on the phone yesterday  BTW Steve!

Cheers ... Ash
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on September 13, 2014, 03:51:56 PM
I knew there'd be an expert out there somewhere.
For us "domestic" types, what would we use in place of an infra red lamp? Surely it's just heat?

I'm off to the local university library to get those books.
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on September 13, 2014, 03:53:11 PM
… and white spirit for degreasing? Or maybe use my brake cleaner again.
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 13, 2014, 04:05:22 PM
I knew there'd be an expert out there somewhere.
For us "domestic" types, what would we use in place of an infra red lamp? Surely it's just heat?

I'm off to the local university library to get those books.

Radiant heat from the bar of an electric fire, health lamp, radiant ring on an electric cooker.
Probably use brake cleaner.

Cheers .. Ash
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on September 13, 2014, 04:06:13 PM
I knew it.
Under the grill!
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: matthewmosse on September 13, 2014, 07:46:46 PM
Evo stick inpact adhesive is good stuff. Also handy for helping a seat cover stick to the base and other jobs where rubber meets metal, like hand grips, footpegs etc. Brake cleaner does fine to get the metal and rubber nice and clean.
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Green1 on September 13, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
Not really a fan of them paddock stands Steve its only a matter of time before you scratch the swing arm you want to replace those cups with hooks&bobbins.

Mick
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: matthewmosse on September 13, 2014, 08:02:27 PM
I have a similar paddock stand, my rebel exhust getting in the way is partly to blame but the damn thing has resulted in the bike dropping off the stand a few times giving rise to some ripe language. I now use a chain hoist and a length of baler twine to hang the bike from the ceiling of the workshop, works far better, you can really hammer at stuck bits or whatever with no worry of it falling over, only works if you have a workshop and suitable roof, and of course no landrovers or dumpers having an engine change and occupying the space.
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Norniron on September 14, 2014, 11:36:04 AM
Hey steve,i use this all the time.
Forget evostick,it doesnt stick to metal properly
http://www.ct1ltd.com/en/ct1.html
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on September 14, 2014, 11:48:57 AM
Does it come in smaller packs?
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Norniron on September 14, 2014, 11:54:48 AM
It has a cap for the nozzle,it will keep for a few months.
Screwfix stock it
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 14, 2014, 12:00:51 PM
Hey steve,i use this all the time.
Forget evostick,it doesnt stick to metal properly
http://www.ct1ltd.com/en/ct1.html

Are you challenging the great works of the eminent Professor Wake! tut-tut ;D

Cheers.. ash
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Norniron on September 14, 2014, 12:21:26 PM
Hey steve,i use this all the time.
Forget evostick,it doesnt stick to metal properly
http://www.ct1ltd.com/en/ct1.html

Are you challenging the great works of the eminent Professor Wake! tut-tut ;D

Cheers.. ash

Yep cos of his choice of car!
An allegro
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Trigger on September 14, 2014, 01:43:47 PM
So are you saying Norniron that the Allegro was not stuck together with ct1 ;) My Trabant could do with re-gluing back together.
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Norniron on September 14, 2014, 01:53:19 PM
No wot im saying is NEVER trust anyone whose choice of transport is an Austin Allegro
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Bryanj on September 14, 2014, 01:54:13 PM
Nowt wrong with All agros, kept my uncles garage going for years!
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: Trigger on September 14, 2014, 02:00:23 PM
I did have a girlfriend that had one.Bagged her off to marry a east german with a Trabant. Still not sure if that was the right decision ;D
Forgot to mention. Did divorce the german but, still have the Trabant in storage ;)   
Title: Re: Rear Paddock Stand Rubber Pads (glue question)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 14, 2014, 02:27:15 PM
Yes but it was Van Den Plas model . Sadly no quartic steering wheel though ::)

How the F did we get onto Allegros . Oh sorry it was me  :-[

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