Post by: cooleronthecoast on November 25, 2019, 06:44:23 PM
It will be the first British made bike I've owned in 45 years! The last one was a BSA Bantam. I hope the Trumpet is a bit more reliable than that was. :(
Post by: mike the bike on November 25, 2019, 07:31:28 PM
Post by: pkrich on November 25, 2019, 08:14:53 PM
In traffic and when very hot, if the fuelling was better and the seat it would be great
Pete
Post by: fryerk on November 25, 2019, 08:37:19 PM
Post by: MrDavo on November 25, 2019, 11:48:39 PM
I bought one of the very first Daytona 1000 fours when Hinckley first started out, it was brilliant to have a genuine 150mph bike that didn’t break down, we went all over Europe. I went on a factory tour once, lots of robots at work, and watching a bike fire up for the first time was cool.
Post by: taysidedragon on November 26, 2019, 12:34:49 AM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on November 26, 2019, 01:15:33 AM
Since 2007 I’ve had four different Sprint 955s, a Speed Triple 955 (still got it), a Tiger 1050 and two Tiger 800s.
I always try for something different as a courtesy bike when mine is being serviced and have ridden an early Bonneville America (dreadful in the bends but cool around town), a Bobber 1200 (brilliant!) and last week a 1200 Speed Twin. The Speed was awesome fun but not for me. I like my armchair Tiger
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Post by: flatfour on November 26, 2019, 08:27:24 AM
He always returns to Triumph, he has also owned two of the Hinckley Tiger's.
Over many years of owning Triumph's, his main complaints are the cost of maintenance (much higher than any of the other makes) and the reluctance of dealers to take a trade - in that has more than a few thousand miles on it. I went with him once to a Triumph main dealer and he was told that his bike was not one that they would want to buy, as he had averaged 4,000 miles per year and they preferred 2,500 as a maximum. This seems to be the attitude across the network. He has bought form the Midlands, Norfolk and now lives in Scotland where he says the same problem applies.
In his view a good range of bikes, well put together and great to ride, but let down by maintenance costs and poor residual values.
Post by: cooleronthecoast on November 26, 2019, 08:52:24 AM
BTW flatfour, if your brother thinks Triumph maintenance is expensive, he should look at Aprilia prices. I've just had a full service done with a valve clearance check on my Tuono V4 and it came to over £500! If the shims had needed replacing it would've been closer to £700. :o
Post by: Moorey on November 26, 2019, 09:16:50 AM
Post by: Spitfire on November 26, 2019, 10:02:44 AM
Dennis
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 26, 2019, 11:22:26 AM
I have had so many Tridents, and Bonneville's that I have lost count but here are a couple of pics of a pair I had back in the day. Unfortunately, like all my old bikes that have gone by the wayside, most photos have been lost along the way also :'(.
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Post by: Andrew-S on November 26, 2019, 11:23:06 AM
I've owned Triumph TR Convertibles since 1984 if that counts?
Post by: cooleronthecoast on November 26, 2019, 11:57:11 AM
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 26, 2019, 12:03:51 PM
That rear caliper on your old Black Bike is one serious lump of metal Julie!Yep, did the job a treat. Not my doing though, I bought the bike exactly as you see in that pic and sold her in the same state. She was a real heap of poo but started 1st kick and never let me down. An absolute blast to ride, I had great fun on her. Note the statutory oil leak 😂😂😂
Post by: Moorey on November 26, 2019, 02:01:08 PM
Post by: H2Eric on November 26, 2019, 04:30:59 PM
My second Triumph did have a bit more get up and go! Loads of fun, but keeping it in one piece was a challenge.
Post by: davefirestorm on November 26, 2019, 05:36:56 PM
Post by: Laverda Dave on November 26, 2019, 06:27:12 PM
The poor finish, high purchase price and residual value have put me off buying another Triumph for the foreseeable future. I've got a Triton though currently undergoing a cosmetic refurb👍.
Post by: Tomb on November 27, 2019, 07:38:23 AM
My brother bought a new 1050 Speed triple, he had to relocate his tools so he could fit an extra battery in the tool box coz he got sick of coming home on the back of a recovery truck when it wouldn't start.
When my Speed Triple stopped sparking I had to remove bodywork to get to the plugs, started at the back light and worked my way forward, after half a day I reached the plug caps ::)
Would I have another modern Triumph? Nope! But I 'spose a lot of modern bikes are the same.
Post by: Trigger on November 27, 2019, 08:13:40 AM
Post by: Nurse Julie on November 27, 2019, 08:30:07 AM
Never owned one and never will. Just can't get me head around how bad the engineering is :oIt's not bad engineering, it's just challenging which is half the fun of owning an old Brit bike. The Alloy is better than Japanese Alloy 😋😋😋
Post by: Seamus on November 27, 2019, 08:40:01 AM
Also had an 03 955 speed triple. Loved it, terrific sound with a carbon Triumph can and a decent remap. Smooth as silk all through the rev range.
Restored a 71 oil tank Bonny, that was very nice as well.
They were products of their time, mainly used as transport as cars were too expensive and maintenance skills varied somewhat
Post by: Laverda Dave on November 27, 2019, 09:26:22 AM
Post by: taysidedragon on November 27, 2019, 10:49:35 AM
Never owned one and never will. Just can't get me head around how bad the engineering is :o
Don't confuse the modern Triumphs from Hinkley with the old pushrod stuff from Meriden. They have the same maker's name but no real connection as far as engineering goes. Modern sohc engines that are just as good as any Japanese engine, if not better.
Stands back and waits for the flack.........
Post by: Moorey on November 27, 2019, 11:59:03 AM
Tomb, I had exactly the same problems as your brother with my 1050! Three times it did that to me, twice when I had stopped for fuel, came back to the bike and it was absolutely dead. Three batteries in eight years was the result (and it was kept on an optimate!).
A mate has one with the same sort of problem calls for fuel and doesn't know if it will start. It sounds like locks up. Sits down for 10 mins and then it starts straight up. Always starts from cold. He is currently changing the starter.
Post by: cooleronthecoast on November 27, 2019, 12:31:17 PM
Don't confuse the modern Triumphs from Hinkley with the old pushrod stuff from Meriden. They have the same maker's name but no real connection as far as engineering goes. Modern sohc engines that are just as good as any Japanese engine, if not better.
Stands back and waits for the flack.........
No flack from me, but the modern Bonnies and the Thruxton are DOHC motors.
Post by: taysidedragon on November 27, 2019, 07:23:48 PM
Don't confuse the modern Triumphs from Hinkley with the old pushrod stuff from Meriden. They have the same maker's name but no real connection as far as engineering goes. Modern sohc engines that are just as good as any Japanese engine, if not better.
Stands back and waits for the flack.........
No flack from me, but the modern Bonnies and the Thruxton are DOHC motors.
Yeah, I typed dohc and being on a sohc forum the predictive text bloody changed it without me noticing! 😂
Post by: Green1 on November 27, 2019, 08:12:32 PM
The S4 had loads of silly issues that got me down in the end. Swarf in the headrace bearings from new and leaked oil and water like an old Meridian Triumph, wiring harness rubed on the mono shock and it would also kill batteries until I realised the factory fitted alarm was the culprit. It turned out the alarm was what was causing the non start issue on petrol station forcourts as the electric doors would interfere with it ???
My dad replaced his with an Kawasaki ER6F nice budget bike with plenty of poke when you wind it up but the plastics are complete crap
I can't bring myself to buy another Triumph as I don't like the snobby dealers. I wanted a rocker cover gasket for my S4 and as I was passing a deilership poped in to order one. The first thing they asked was weather I bought the bike from them and when I said no they had no interest in selling me one. My dad had the same experiance when he ordered a side stand spring.
Post by: cooleronthecoast on November 27, 2019, 08:13:20 PM
Don't confuse the modern Triumphs from Hinkley with the old pushrod stuff from Meriden. They have the same maker's name but no real connection as far as engineering goes. Modern sohc engines that are just as good as any Japanese engine, if not better.
Stands back and waits for the flack.........
No flack from me, but the modern Bonnies and the Thruxton are DOHC motors.
Yeah, I typed dohc and being on a sohc forum the predictive text bloody changed it without me noticing! 😂
Ha ha I'll let you off then ;D
Post by: cooleronthecoast on December 03, 2019, 04:25:15 PM
Post by: MrDavo on December 03, 2019, 04:46:12 PM
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Too knackered to do anything else than shove it in the garage ???
A quick word of warning. don't be tempted to do what I did with my Triumph Daytona 1000 and put it away wet after a ride on salty winter roads. When I pulled it out of the garage a couple of days later all the cool satin black anodised fasteners had been ruined forever.
This advice applies to any make of bike really, lesson well and truly learned I now always try and give them a quick rinse before putting them away, especially if the roads have been at all wet. After owning it 14 years from new, all the plating on my Sportster is still like new. (OK its on its second crankshaft but that's another story).
Post by: cooleronthecoast on December 03, 2019, 05:44:38 PM
Post by: cooleronthecoast on December 04, 2019, 01:37:46 PM
Looks well screwed together actually, quite impressed. Sounds nice with the open silencers too. :)
Post by: taysidedragon on December 04, 2019, 02:45:45 PM
Post by: cooleronthecoast on December 04, 2019, 04:04:15 PM
There was a little rust on the frame welded joints near where the rear shocks fit, so I've wire brushed the affected areas and applied some anti rust paint to keep it at bay a while longer. The seat itself looks quite comfy, but as I mentioned I haven't ridden it yet. The Ace bar type handlebars might also get binned and I'll fit some standard Bonneville bars instead if the control cables and electrical wiring etc is long enough.
Post by: taysidedragon on December 04, 2019, 04:54:12 PM
Yes mate, I'm not too keen on the tank pad myself, I'm just wondering if its hiding some paint damage underneath. Perhaps one of my kids will buy me a nicer one for Christmas?? ;D
There was a little rust on the frame welded joints near where the rear shocks fit, so I've wire brushed the affected areas and applied some anti rust paint to keep it at bay a while longer. The seat itself looks quite comfy, but as I mentioned I haven't ridden it yet. The Ace bar type handlebars might also get binned and I'll fit some standard Bonneville bars instead if the control cables and electrical wiring etc is long enough.
Good plan. 🔧☺
Post by: masonmart on December 09, 2019, 05:35:22 PM
Post by: andy120t on December 19, 2019, 10:58:44 AM
Post by: Tomb on December 20, 2019, 07:18:39 AM
Post by: andy120t on December 20, 2019, 12:45:24 PM
Post by: Tomb on December 23, 2019, 07:08:42 AM
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Post by: cooleronthecoast on December 23, 2019, 11:02:34 AM
Post by: Allington (Steve) on December 23, 2019, 01:53:46 PM
Same here, not original at all, so different forks/wheels/brakes didn't matter, but still the right style. Recently I saw a photo of a Featherbed frame/pre-unit Triton with upside down forks and a Ducati 916 rear end, it looked so wrong. Back when I put the GT250 forks in my 500, some self proclaimed Triumph expert complimented me on switching to Trident forks to use disc brake set up, which in a weird way was a compliment.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/70591723_1177639099088927_5944318609785356288_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ohc=CLzJkSgu1zgAQlfDSQK-XV21fhDtJ2p0wV0-DNa27wJrob89MW5TCnz5Q&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=f879744f9a0b1c9f78584a49572ce8c6&oe=5EB17CD9)
That looks great actually and without the added bonus of a heart attack every time something stops or pulls out in front of you too
Post by: Tomb on December 23, 2019, 05:58:48 PM
I like that, it looks great. What is the other bike just out of shot, that you can only see the front wheel of?
650 AJS I think, it was taken a long time ago so memory is..... sorry what was the question?
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Post by: oldh on February 07, 2020, 09:19:16 AM
Cheers
Dave
Post by: GTB981 on February 07, 2020, 10:35:59 AM
Post by: cooleronthecoast on February 07, 2020, 02:24:19 PM
My initial impressions?
Its slow, overweight, under powered (not unlike its new owner really) but I love it!
The reverse cone (aftermarket) exhausts sound absolutely great and having said it's slow, I suppose thats a comparative thing. I'd say the performance is roughly on par with my CB550, I think its probably faster than the Honda top speed wise, but the CB will accelerate faster. The front brake is very wooden, I believe some owners change the OE front calliper for a Honda CB1000R item which is supposed to make it much better. The shock absorbers are poor too. But at the end of the day it is a fun bike to ride despite its shortcomings.
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Post by: bobv7 on February 07, 2020, 04:55:11 PM
Post by: davefirestorm on February 07, 2020, 05:34:53 PM
Bought this `72 Tiger last year from Frank (got a good price for my RD200 against it). It was on the bucket list to own a British bike and I love it to bits. I had a W800 a few years back and can now exactly understand what Kawasaki were aiming for.That’s a beauty,here’s a picture of my TR6R taken in 1975.I checked on DVLA site long time ago to see if it was still around but no record of it but checked again this year and it lives,I’d love to see it again the best Triumph I owned
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