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Title: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on May 02, 2021, 05:31:38 PM: Hi all

Hope you are all well and looking forward to summer

Just picked up this

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It’s an original Mead Speed fairing for a CB400F

Alway fancied one of these since my mate had a yellow F2 fitted with one in the early 80’s

It going to be fitted most likely next year to this old girl as currently restoring the tank and side panels back to original with a plan to finish the rebuild of the engine next winter so the bike at that point will be finished

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Also with the fairing is a brand new set of ACE clip ons so looking please if anybody has a set of rear sets tucked away they would like to sell or if anybody has any recommendations on possible rear sets suppliers

Many thanks in advance to all

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: billdn on May 02, 2021, 06:32:49 PM: I got my rear sets from, M and P - they're Raask but come with no fitting instructions! One of the guys on here helped me out with advice , so if you get stuck drop me a line or use the search feature, should throw up something.
If you're using clip ons you might need to "adapt" the tank slightly, along with the switches! Good luck!
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: ka-ja on May 02, 2021, 06:47:50 PM: Raask rear sets are well engineered, but they are a little radical but easy to fit, I have photo's if needed anytime
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: Athame57 on May 02, 2021, 07:48:30 PM: Has the crankcase cover been chromed or just buffed up to kingdom come by a slave or something?
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on May 02, 2021, 08:31:49 PM: Quote from: Athame57 on May 02, 2021, 07:48:30 PM
Has the crankcase cover been chromed or just buffed up to kingdom come by a slave or something?
No it’s been chromed by the PO but it’s crap and flaky so planning to get it stripped off and a straight polish when I pull the engine later this year

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on May 02, 2021, 08:44:31 PM: Thats really nice kit Alan
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on May 02, 2021, 10:29:40 PM: I love the fairing btw.

I only ever fitted one aftermarket fairing & that was to an Ariel Arrow it looked great but my steering lock was crap afterwards!
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: Bryanj on May 02, 2021, 10:57:49 PM: Put a lamplast fairing on a 500 velo and it made it slower
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on May 02, 2021, 11:44:54 PM: Hi all

First thanks for the advice on possible rear sets

No I don’t think it will make the old girl quicker

Just want to make the bike a bit different

Been searching off and on for this type of fairing that was designed for the CB400F off for over a year but nothing but just decided last night to just have a nosy on flea bay and this popped up so just had to have it

I will need a refurb / repaint but it does come with all the correct front and rear mounting brackets for the CB400F set up

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So should be not to much of a struggle to fit and just need to sort out handle bar switch gear (I have a plan for that) and maybe reduce steering lock ( but my lower yoke already has adjustable stops as the originals were damaged that allowed the forks to touch the tank on full lock) and then sort some rear sets

Lastly the bottom is cut to match the original Honda down pipe collector so this may need a tweak to suit the Delkevic exhaust

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Catch up soon

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on May 20, 2021, 08:11:44 PM: Hi all

Well that the first bit done

Now fitted with some ACE bars and some bloody expensive rear sets

Bars fit well and adapted the original Honda switched by milling two exit holes for the cables so I can keep the original look switch gear and starting to get back to that 70’s look

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Plan now is to finish off my tank and side panel respray, fit new decals and run her for the summer while I sort out the fairing which now currently is hung up on the garage wall

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Catch up again soon and stay safe all

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on May 20, 2021, 08:37:17 PM: I recognise that wall bracketry from your wheel building jig Alan
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on May 20, 2021, 08:43:35 PM: Quote from: philward on May 20, 2021, 08:37:17 PM
I recognise that wall bracketry from your wheel building jig Alan
Hi Phil

Yes I use this aluminium extrusion for lots of builds at work so always have some spare off cuts left over for home projects and keeps the fairing nicely out the way while I sort out other projects

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: royhall on May 21, 2021, 08:03:27 AM: You must be very tall Allan, only you can reach those plug sockets. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on May 21, 2021, 08:12:41 AM: Quote from: royhall on May 21, 2021, 08:03:27 AM
You must be very tall Allan, only you can reach those plug sockets. ;D ;D
Very good

No sockets are just for garage roller door

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on July 27, 2021, 07:52:20 PM: Hi all

Well that’s the next part of the jigsaw fitted

Lovely single seat from good old US of A and no custom charge

Was a bit pricey but it’s made to fit seat that keeps the original hinge and catch’s so a straight swap but keeping the under seat access

As Del Boy would say lovely chubley

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on July 27, 2021, 08:31:34 PM: Yes I know as the lug is then on the outside so I can fit the cylinder slightly closer to the switch gear

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 28, 2021, 02:27:41 AM: I like the chrome numer plate frame - is it a USA part or are they sold here in the UK?

Probably has different mounting holes so not a straight swap part ?
Title: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on July 28, 2021, 04:28:45 PM: Hi Ted

Yes they are sold in the UK

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Bolt pattern is the same as the rear mudguard but As you noticed it is for a USA bike so I did this to get the number plate to fit

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Better than a rot painted black uk one

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on July 28, 2021, 10:50:22 PM: Quote from: allankelly1 on July 28, 2021, 04:28:45 PM
Hi Ted

Yes they are sold in the UK

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Bolt pattern is the same as the rear mudguard but As you noticed it is for a USA bike so I did this to get the number plate to fit

Wonda whether that will fit the US CB500k2

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Better than a rot painted black uk one

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 29, 2021, 10:28:46 PM: I so want a chrome rear number plate holder - are you saying it will fit my UK rear mudguard mounting holes as my existing mudguard is in good condition?
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on July 30, 2021, 06:45:27 AM: Hi Ted

Yes the four mounting holes for the mudguard are the same

It just the plate mounting is a different shape as it for an American plate

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 31, 2021, 01:55:54 PM: Quote from: allankelly1 on July 30, 2021, 06:45:27 AM
Hi Ted

Yes the four mounting holes for the mudguard are the same

It just the plate mounting is a different shape as it for an American plate

Best wishes Al

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I've had a look online they are not cheap - made me wonder how much it would cost to chrome my standard black one. (probably way more)

I'll see how good the metal is when I strip it of paint.
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on July 31, 2021, 02:00:41 PM: Chrome is not cheap

I think time you strip and chrome your original it will be way more than this

Other option if your original is in VGC would be to sell that one and then buy this one

Might even make a small profit as original one in VGC with no rot are I guess sought after by the CB anoraks

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on July 31, 2021, 06:06:03 PM: Quote from: Macabethiele (Ted) on July 31, 2021, 01:55:54 PM
Quote from: allankelly1 on July 30, 2021, 06:45:27 AM
Hi Ted

Yes the four mounting holes for the mudguard are the same

It just the plate mounting is a different shape as it for an American plate

Best wishes Al

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I've had a look online they are not cheap - made me wonder how much it would cost to chrome my standard black one. (probably way more)

I'll see how good the metal is when I strip it of paint.
Ted, I got a quote for my chrome 500k2 lamp bracket and rear grab rail and it was 90 squid plus postage each way

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: dave400 on July 31, 2021, 06:53:59 PM: Hello Ted, let me know……..Cheers Dave
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on August 01, 2021, 09:41:40 AM: Will it fit the 500 then Ken? (as the 400 bracket is a different part number to the 500 on the CMSL schematic)

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Title: Cafe racer
Post by: allankelly1 on August 01, 2021, 05:48:17 PM: Yes it should be a straight swap over

This is what originally came off

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And the chrome one went straight on using the same upper and lower bolt holes

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on August 01, 2021, 06:30:15 PM: Let me know if it fits ok please Ken - I will order one to save re-chroming mine

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Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: TrickyMicky on August 02, 2021, 07:34:56 AM: Y'know, one of the few remaining pleasures we have in life is freedom of choice in many things. My personal preference would be to go for the contrasting effect of a high gloss black fitting attached to a well polished chrome mudguard, but it's your bike and I heartily defend your right to have it looking as best suits you. Looking at the item pictured, it gives the effect of a reaction between two differing types of paint, but the metal seems to be fairly sound. If that's the case I would leave it soaking in stripper and re-paint it gloss black. As somebody else commented, decent black ones are getting rare and this could well offset some of the cost of your replacement. Stay safe everyone.
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on August 03, 2021, 09:33:50 PM: No rush Ken - thanks
Title: Re: Cafe racer
Post by: philward on August 05, 2021, 10:22:19 PM: Thanks Ken (sorry for the delay as away in motorhome again!) - I'll get one ordered

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