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Title: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 09, 2016, 01:25:44 PM
Been a 7+  month wait due to the painter being hospitalized but paint finally ready. Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350K1 paintwork on Monday ...can't wait ! Candy Red/White one set, Candy blue/green & white the other set. Both '69 bikes. Fortunately my JDM250K0 is metallic grey, one of few 60's/70's Honda's that actually used metallic not candy finish.

Think I will get all of my paintwork out of the loft on Tuesday night when missus is out at pub quiz, lay it out in the lounge and have a 'Tank porn' evening  ::)

BTW my 500/4 K0 Candy Jade/Jet Green set that Menno did, everyone who has seen it comments what a superb job he did,  on what I gather,  is a very difficult colour to get right.

Some really talented guys out there...hats off to you.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: JamesH on September 09, 2016, 01:30:15 PM
The thought of you having a tank porn evening has just made me throw up Ash :-)....
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 09, 2016, 01:43:20 PM
The thought of you having a tank porn evening has just made me throw up Ash :-)....

Think it was you that coined the phrase James  ;D ;D ;D  in a previous post !
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 09, 2016, 02:12:56 PM
All sounds like a fun evening to me  ;D ;D ;D
Showing my ignorance here Ash, what is JDM ?
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Chris400F on September 09, 2016, 02:41:04 PM
Think I will get all of my paintwork out of the loft on Tuesday night when missus is out at pub quiz, lay it out in the lounge and have a 'Tank porn' evening  ::)
Are you sure she will be at a pub quiz?
Maybe she will be off to some clandestine gathering of valve radio enthusiasts.  :) :)

Can I take a guess at JDM as Japanese Domestic Model? Is that what the model was actually designated?
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 09, 2016, 02:44:18 PM
Ah, I see, a grey import then.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 09, 2016, 06:09:19 PM
All sounds like a fun evening to me  ;D ;D ;D
Showing my ignorance here Ash, what is JDM ?

Japanese Domestic only Model ...designated CB250 'Dream' Super Sport

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Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 09, 2016, 08:37:24 PM
A very kind person on here sold me a NOS 'up to speed' lamp off one of those JDM 500's James. It comes with the head stem nut and a really long sleeved rubber lamp holder that slots into the top yoke stem tube. My speedo has a little inductive switch inside, adjustable on a quadrant .  The inductive switch is broken by a 'flag' attached to the rotating 'eddy current' aluminium disk driven by the magnetic drag. There is a little potted circuit board inside the speedo that conditions the sensor and drives the lamp. When the speedo gets to a certain speed level the light comes on. I told the instructor at a speed awareness course I was on that if my car had a light like that on it, as is fitted to my 1968 Honda,  I wouldn't have got caught out . Didn't go down too well  :-[

Do you have the JDM circuit diagram  for the 500 James? .. I think some Honda's have a little round module that does the pickup conditioning. I have one that came off a JDM CB175
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: royhall on September 10, 2016, 10:00:28 AM
A very kind person on here sold me a NOS 'up to speed' lamp off one of those JDM 500's James. It comes with the head stem nut and a really long sleeved rubber lamp holder that slots into the top yoke stem tube. My speedo has a little inductive switch inside, adjustable on a quadrant .  The inductive switch is broken by a 'flag' attached to the rotating 'eddy current' aluminium disk driven by the magnetic drag. There is a little potted circuit board inside the speedo that conditions the sensor and drives the lamp. When the speedo gets to a certain speed level the light comes on. I told the instructor at a speed awareness course I was on that if my car had a light like that on it, as is fitted to my 1968 Honda,  I wouldn't have got caught out . Didn't go down too well  :-[

Do you have the JDM circuit diagram  for the 500 James? .. I think some Honda's have a little round module that does the pickup conditioning. I have one that came off a JDM CB175
Slow down Ash I'm having to look up every fourth word. Funny thing is, I always end up learning something from your posts. Ha Ha.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Trigger on September 10, 2016, 03:22:42 PM
I had one of those bloody lights on a GSX-R 400 GK71B, ended up covering it with tape ;D
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 10, 2016, 09:24:47 PM
A very kind person on here sold me a NOS 'up to speed' lamp off one of those JDM 500's James. It comes with the head stem nut and a really long sleeved rubber lamp holder that slots into the top yoke stem tube. My speedo has a little inductive switch inside, adjustable on a quadrant .  The inductive switch is broken by a 'flag' attached to the rotating 'eddy current' aluminium disk driven by the magnetic drag. There is a little potted circuit board inside the speedo that conditions the sensor and drives the lamp. When the speedo gets to a certain speed level the light comes on. I told the instructor at a speed awareness course I was on that if my car had a light like that on it, as is fitted to my 1968 Honda,  I wouldn't have got caught out . Didn't go down too well  :-[

Do you have the JDM circuit diagram  for the 500 James? .. I think some Honda's have a little round module that does the pickup conditioning. I have one that came off a JDM CB175
Slow down Ash I'm having to look up every fourth word. Funny thing is, I always end up learning something from your posts. Ha Ha.

It's of interest to me (as an electronics engineer) because, along with the solid state voltage regulator used on that model in 1968 (precise current dumping clamp unlike the single zener diode used on Triumphs) it was , to my knowledge, the first use of solid-state electronics on Honda motorcycles.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: royhall on September 11, 2016, 01:53:25 AM
Wow in 1968 that's impressive. Good old Honda.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 11, 2016, 09:21:55 AM
Wow in 1968 that's impressive. Good old Honda.

That's why I think that model was ground breaking in '68. Candy paint, diaphragm CV carbs, individual speedo/tacho, full chrome etc. 30BHP from a 250 engine etc. Problem is the engine is in high demand from the classic racer people and it bumps up engine/part prices and the silencers rot like stink and rare NOS. Silvers replica's are OK but not quite right but kindly Brituro who make them for DS produced me some unchromed ones to my exact spec at a very reasonable price. Nice people to deal with.


If of any interest to anyone on here are some nice pics of a ’68 350 and the MCM road test from ‘68

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/pa0dpqqtsscqp4d/AADMndCfJq94BCucO1RLnXiqa?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/aostg1ai2kf2oli/AAAEIMer-LyxCz6Bc6XQEqQna?dl=0

Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 15, 2016, 12:14:12 PM
Outed here James   ;D,

http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,9848.msg69830.html#msg6983

Well Tuesdays tank porn night was postponed as Cathy's quiz night was off   :-[ :-[ :-[ :'(.

Picked up the paintwork though and it looks brilliant . It was in my car and I compared the candy red to a girl at works Clio and it's almost identical colour/finish?

Andrew has told me to get my candy red framed CD125A parts 'in the queue' so that he can get on with prep even though I wont get the fuel tank till after Christmas as its still in Japan.

At some point I want to send my spare 500K0 tank and panels to Menno to do in Candy Gold. However everyone on here talks about two different candy golds available. Any ideas views ?

BTW Menno's internal tank treatment is superb..dunno what he uses but far better than anyone else I have used over the years. ;)
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 15, 2016, 10:21:38 PM
1969 CB250K0 and '69 CB350K1 Done with modern Honda colours but Candy/Blue green is matched to NOS ear and you can't tell the difference but paint more than half the cost of RS Bikepaints.. One step closer. Not brill pics from iPhone that I think are sh*te and well overrated. B*stard thing got me lost finding Andrew near Tadcaster for over an hour, told me I was 3/4 hour away when I was actually 5 miles away. Forgot my 'real'  satnav

He's painting my CD125A next with candy red frame.

Gonna get Menno to do my spare 500/4 tank in Gold. Are there really two types? Oddjob/Bryan/Trigger/Menno?

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Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Trigger on September 15, 2016, 10:40:10 PM
Starlight = K0, Candy = K1 ;)
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Chris400F on September 16, 2016, 08:58:23 AM
That's what it says in the Parts List too. Wonder why they changed just that colour between models.

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Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 16, 2016, 01:22:06 PM
Starlight is the better colour IMO. I've had both and the K1 Candy Gold custom is very nice, it's a real Candy colour as well with a lot of flake in it but the Starlight is a much more subdued Gold, it's classy if you get my drift whereas the K1 colour just shouts hey look at me I'm Gold. Either is fine but I think the Starlight edges it.

Does Menno have matches for both shades? Guess I will be needing Starlight Gold then.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 17, 2016, 08:54:29 AM
Don't know Ash but if you need a colour match for Starlight Gold I can lend you a sidepanel off my bike, it's virtually NOS, only been fitted for 3 months before being stored.

Cheers Ken may take you up on that. Can't imagine that Menno hasn't done that shade already though. What was the colour of the 500K0 that Julie sold?
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 17, 2016, 09:11:44 AM
Don't know Ash but if you need a colour match for Starlight Gold I can lend you a sidepanel off my bike, it's virtually NOS, only been fitted for 3 months before being stored.

Cheers Ken may take you up on that. Can't imagine that Menno hasn't done that shade already though. What was the colour of the 500K0 that Julie sold?
1971 UK CB500 K0- Starlight Gold
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 17, 2016, 09:20:59 AM
Don't know Ash but if you need a colour match for Starlight Gold I can lend you a sidepanel off my bike, it's virtually NOS, only been fitted for 3 months before being stored.

Cheers Ken may take you up on that. Can't imagine that Menno hasn't done that shade already though. What was the colour of the 500K0 that Julie sold?
1971 UK CB500 K0- Starlight Gold

Cheers Julie ..did Menno paint it?
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Nurse Julie on September 17, 2016, 09:27:02 AM
Don't know Ash but if you need a colour match for Starlight Gold I can lend you a sidepanel off my bike, it's virtually NOS, only been fitted for 3 months before being stored.

Cheers Ken may take you up on that. Can't imagine that Menno hasn't done that shade already though. What was the colour of the 500K0 that Julie sold?
1971 UK CB500 K0- Starlight Gold

Cheers Julie ..did Menno paint it?
No, an old boy in Newport Pagnell but it was a b*****d to paint and get right, although saying that it came out very well. The chap I sold the bike to unfortunately lost a side panel a few weeks ago, he took a new bare one to the chap in Newport Pagnell, as luckily he had a little paint left from the original tin and he is well pleased with the colour match.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: AshimotoK0 on September 17, 2016, 10:27:29 AM
I seem to recall that Menno hasn't done a Starlight Gold paint job yet, he was asking about a patch match panel the last time we talked about it.

Also if Julies was the same bike that Graham was doing or at least advising on, I sent Graham some pics of one of my panels for checking, however that doesn't mean the fella in Newport got the colour right, just means they were all the same colour, only real way to check would be to get a genuine Starlight Gold panel in good condition and compare them in Direct Sunlight.

Not sure but Bryan may have an original panel in that colour. I made sure on the last paint job that I got the left over paint from my jobs .. as Andrew said ..'You bought it . it's all yours'.  He also gave me some metallic 'Sunny Gold' as used on CB750 tank striping and the side panels.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Trigger on September 17, 2016, 11:07:11 AM
Me tinks Menno has done starlight >>>http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php?topic=9844.0
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Menno on September 19, 2016, 10:33:25 PM
Well, I  guess I would be very happy with an original colour to match.
So Oddjob / Ken if the offer still stands I would say: yes please.




Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: RGP750 on September 20, 2016, 06:59:53 AM
I have a gold cb175 fork cover bought still in brown wrapper and hardly seen daylight.
I didn't know there were 2 golds so close.
anyone know which one the 175 was?
if it's what you need Menno you can have it.
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Trigger on September 20, 2016, 07:24:59 AM
I have a gold cb175 fork cover bought still in brown wrapper and hardly seen daylight.
I didn't know there were 2 golds so close.
anyone know which one the 175 was?
if it's what you need Menno you can have it.

Should be the same gold as your K2 but, it is listed as Candy Gold Custom
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Bryanj on September 20, 2016, 03:51:32 PM
oddjob. look at uk2.net and you can see if its worth it. They forward free to wherever you want. I have mine forwarded to 3 different machines with different addresses
Title: Re: Picking up my CB250K0 & CB350 K0 Paintwork on Monday ...can't wait !
Post by: Menno on September 21, 2016, 08:54:40 PM
I'll pm you on my adress.

My adress is also on my website; It's the adress in Germany.

Höhstrasse 70
66887 Jettenbach
Germany

Höhstrasse means highstreet
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