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Title: My other SOHC
Post by: LesterPiglet on January 22, 2015, 08:49:06 PM
This is what I'm using over winter. Surprisingly well put together.

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Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 22, 2015, 11:40:57 PM
Nothing wrong with with that.
My sister had one good little bike much better than the Chinese thing she had before it.

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: tom400f on January 23, 2015, 10:20:19 AM
Interesting. My son (will be 24 then) would like to take up motorcycles in the summer. Any 125 recommendations welcome, no idea myself...
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: matthewmosse on January 23, 2015, 10:43:15 AM
Honda 125 twins seem to have a pretty decent ammout of poke for the size, I had a suzuki gs125, again very tough and available as a custom (gz) or trail (dr) and the trail version is really rather capable - where I sometimes do guided trail bike tours has one for L plate customers to hire, it goes everywhere the big bikes do, and ridden right keeps up with the 400cc trail bikes. 2strokes are faster and lighter, but since road legal 2 stokes are kind of a thing of the past I rather think they will genrally be well thrashed and used up by now as a rule, so getting a decent one is going to be lucky or need money spending. Cg 125 hondas have a solid reputation. My honda ca125 (twin) has proved both cheap to buy and run and bombproof despite shocking neglect and abuse. Ones to avoid - Hong dou clone of the ca125 called the rebel, whilst the engine appears well made the rest of it is truly awful, I aquired a 250 one of these, suffice it to say I was the second person to literally be given the thing, I will save almost any wreck and broke the thing up as being unfit for use the moment I saw the quality of the welding and machine work on the frame and swing arm. I think a lot of chineese built bikes may be poor by reputation, though older ones likely to be worse than newer ones. Still likely to be seeing a fair failure rate if my mates Lifan 125 he bought new was anything to go by, not as bad as the hong dou, not as good as a 15 year old jap bike.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: hairygit on January 23, 2015, 11:38:33 AM
Hold on guys, if that's a CG125 clone, it's NOT SOHC, they are OHV pushrod engines! :o
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: MikeM on January 23, 2015, 11:38:43 AM
I had some fun with a Suzuki vanvan

chunky tyres, revy, certainly not quick but a fun ride
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: matthewmosse on January 23, 2015, 01:30:32 PM
Hold on guys, if that's a CG125 clone, it's NOT SOHC, they are OHV pushrod engines! :o
burn the heretic?
still a decent little commuter bike.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: MCTID on January 23, 2015, 03:56:33 PM
From my Grandsons recent experience.......I advised him to check what trade in the local Dealer would offer him a year or so down the line when he had passed his Test and wanter a bigger bike. The Dealer quoted a fair price on a Yamaha YBR125 (as long as it was in good nick and properly serviced - by the Dealer). When asked the same question about various Chinese/Korean/ Indian bikes he sold........he was reluctant to predict what they might be worth later on.....which we took as him not really wanting to take one in P/X. Grandson bought the Yamaha and was happy when he sold it on.

The other thing to note is that I regularly use a Car Park in Shoreham and there are two Chinese bikes always parked there (I assume the owners live in adjacent flats - as the Car Park is free for bikes). Although both bikes are only a couple of years old, the chrome is in a terrible state - I admit they are left uncovered, but it would probably cost more to replace/ replate parts than the bikes are worth.

'The initial sweet taste of saving money soon fades when the reality of just what poor quality costs in the long term comes home to roost'.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: mike the bike on January 23, 2015, 05:19:09 PM
Suzuki Gs125S. Parts are cheap and plentiful (exhaust system £49 from MandP)   they're also very easy to work on and very reliable.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 23, 2015, 06:58:46 PM
Mike
Wont knock that ;)
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: matthewmosse on January 23, 2015, 07:03:57 PM
The saving grace of the chineese bikes is the price, forget re chroming, just dispose and replace, but yes the chome is poor. The kymco such as started this thread seem a far better bet, but personally speaking, for my money a classic Jap 125cc 4 stroke would take some beating, especially come insurance time. The most I have ever paid for any form of insurance is £400, and when I started out on bikes my mates were paying 4 figures for their car insurance. I got right through all the expensive years on classic bikes and eventually did car test last year by which time I was able to get cover for a 2.0hdi berlingo for £170, pretty well the day I passed my test. Very often insurance will cost the same as a pro engine overhaul or more so don't overlook that.
agreed on the gs, mine was the only bike I ever got more for selling than I paid.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 23, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
Gs125's seem to be a better buy secondhand compered to the CG they seem to have been forgotten.
I had a GS125 when I was 17 brilliant little bike it would hold 70mph were as the cg125 I have now struggles above 55mph.
The little CG is brilliant at the moment I'm driving to Cambridge with it in the back of the truck dropping my gear off than parking for free just on the border and riding in..Its saving me a fortune as parking is £25 a day. :o   

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 23, 2015, 08:01:55 PM
And this is England land of hope and glory.When my date is due not sure now damn shame
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Norniron on January 23, 2015, 08:10:36 PM
Interesting. My son (will be 24 then) would like to take up motorcycles in the summer. Any 125 recommendations welcome, no idea myself...
My son has started off with a honda varadero 125.
Great wee (big) bike and good handler.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: tom400f on January 23, 2015, 08:21:03 PM
Interesting. My son (will be 24 then) would like to take up motorcycles in the summer. Any 125 recommendations welcome, no idea myself...
My son has started off with a honda varadero 125.
Great wee (big) bike and good handler.

Thanks for all the advice gents. Agree about the Varadero but they look a bit pricey  :o
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: LesterPiglet on January 23, 2015, 09:51:16 PM
Just to make sure there isn't any confusion, Kymco is Taiwanese.
To be honest I've never looked at the engine.   ;D
http://www.motorbikespecs.net/index.dyn?flag=2&model_id=5835901&make=Kymco
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: matthewmosse on January 23, 2015, 11:31:18 PM
I loved my little gs, not a bad little bike, the front drum on mine was a bit underpowered, I swapped it for a disk braked front end off a later bike which was much better. Handling wise it could be hustled through tight twisties flat out, if you were well used to it, I was riding mine a minimum of 12 miles every day, often going 90 each way to / from collage at weekends and could keep it at 60 virtually all the way from mid Wales the other side of Hereford, only slowing for 30 limmits. The pegs got toutched down in corners reguarly. I doubt I could ride anything that fast anymore. Cracking motors. Same engine is found in some more modern bikes from less known makers though I cannot remember the brand, thd trail bike place had one of these odd make bikes as their daughters first road bike, they decided the resale value was so low they robbed the engine off it for their dr125. Be aware later models might be restricted by the exhaust and or carb to meet noise emissions.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: hairygit on January 24, 2015, 02:03:54 PM
Here's my other SOHC, it IS an SOHC, and it's a Honda!:)) A hard thrashed daily hack, currently doing 50miles a day 2 up ferrying my daughter to and from school. Needs a wash at the moment, looks filthy from wet and salted roads. Note the rusty silencer, 14 months old, genuine Honda, albeit made in Brazil, which is why I asked Ian from Motad about making some in stainless.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 08:33:37 PM
Green 1, you will like this
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 26, 2015, 08:35:54 PM
Agreed like em both
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 08:39:33 PM
Your wright I do like What size tyre is on the front looks a bit chunky
Best bike I'v owned by far.

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 08:42:21 PM
Your wright I do like What size tyre is on the front looks a bit chunky
Best bike I'v owned by far.

Mick

Have not even looked at the tyre's since i bought it for 300 about three months ago. Only non original part is the mirrors.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 08:45:46 PM
Bloody hell good buy.

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 26, 2015, 08:47:34 PM
Mick
Trig paying over the top for anything ;) ;) ;) are you for real? ;)
Cheers
Ralph
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 26, 2015, 08:48:01 PM
Will you take £300.99 for it Graham ?  :-* :-*
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 26, 2015, 08:50:08 PM
300 quid over the top there Julie ;) ;)
Cheers
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 08:51:12 PM
You recon Ralph I got £900 for mine

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 08:51:34 PM
Will you take £300.99 for it Graham ?  :-* :-*

As Mick know that the exhaust's can make £700 so, cheers for your offer but i will put it up in the spring ;)
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 08:54:01 PM
How many miles on it Graham looks quit clean?
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 26, 2015, 08:54:52 PM
Mick
Wow didn't realize they fetched that kinda dough mate
Cheers
Ralph
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 26, 2015, 08:58:42 PM
Will you take £300.99 for it Graham ?  :-* :-*

As Mick know that the exhaust's can make £700 so, cheers for your offer but i will put it up in the spring ;)
Oh well, never mind. I'm sure I would do the same thing Trig   :)
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 08:59:17 PM
Bloody hell good buy.

Mick

I felt sorry for the guy i got it from because he had taken it to a bike shop for a starting problem. Was charged £45 and told it was the starter motor. He payed out £350 for a new motor but, still the same problem. It has only 24,000 with all the old MOT's and when i went to pick it up from Bath, he was shocked that i turned up with a helmet in hand. Put the bike in gear, rocked it to engage the starter clutch and pressed the start button. The seller was shocked that i started it. 
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 09:02:22 PM
Nether did I only payed £400 for it and owned it about 6 years.
When it sold on eBay people accused me of bidding it up.

I wounder if its mine I think that ended up around there?

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 09:10:19 PM
Does it have a black plug cap on the left hand side and a rub mark on the top of the headlight shell?
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 09:11:09 PM
Nether did I only payed £400 for it and owned it about 6 years.
When it sold on eBay people accused me of bidding it up.

I wounder if its mine I think that ended up around there?

Mick

This one is F160 KHR and the one i have in Greece is F163 LPF whtch i got for 150 with 231 miles on the clock. it had sat in my mates garage from 1988 to 2003. Did sell one last year at twice the price that you sold your for Mick.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 09:14:10 PM
Mine was on a K that's all I can remember of the reg.

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 09:15:19 PM
Mine was on a K that's all I can remember of the reg.

Mick

K? Too new for me ;D
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 09:16:53 PM
I feel like I let it go to cheap now it only had 13k on the clock
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 09:30:32 PM
I feel like I let it go to cheap now it only had 13k on the clock

If they have good oem exhaust's, you will get more money in parts. The rack is a hard to find part along with the exhaust's and the mudguards.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 09:32:43 PM
Both mudguards were mint same with the exhaust and rack.
Dam really kicking myself now. ::)
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 09:35:50 PM
Both mudguards were mint same with the exhaust and rack.
Dam really kicking myself now. ::)

Sold a NOS exhaust for 700, front and rear guards for 400 and a rack at 110.
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 10:03:05 PM
Don't tell me no more
Ralph's wright you are a git  ;D ;D

Mick
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Trigger on January 26, 2015, 10:14:39 PM
Don't tell me no more
Ralph's wright you are a git  ;D ;D

Mick

Don't worry Mick, a air filter can set you back a few quid for a CD250 these days > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/151559930944?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
No one did a pattern one and Honda ran out some years back :'(
Title: Re: My other SOHC
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2015, 10:23:38 PM
Mine had a new one of those two it cost me a hole £15 the dealer was going to bin it he thought he was never going to shift it.
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