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CB350/400 / Re: Fitting DSS coils
« on: September 06, 2020, 09:47:33 AM »

Presumably you have tried swapping the mounting posts from left side  to right side  at one end or even both ends to make up the length difference? You could then lop off the bit in the way if you get my drift. Alternatively you can rotate the posts and insert a simple 90 Deg bracket like on a kitchen unit type fitting.
I'll investigate tomorrow to see if a bit of hacksaw butchery will help! ;)

I used a junior hacksaw and some cutting wheels in my drill - be careful it feels like a cast alluminium bracket so it will break.

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CB350/400 / Re: Why can't you have rusty petrol tank shot or bead blasted ?
« on: September 06, 2020, 09:45:02 AM »
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Why can't you have rusty petrol tank shot or bead blasted?

You can - nothing stopping you.  If you mean why isn't it a good idea that's different - and I can tell you that having had the outside of a tank sandblasted, I'd be very wary of trying to do the insides the same way. 

Long story, but I'd decided to get a tank powdercoated (yeah, long story . . . don't ask) and since the frame was going the same way, I just added the tank to the set of bits to get blasted.  Saw it halfway through the process and it looked absolutely fine; paint free and no rust either inside or outside.  Powdercoating completed and it looked great.  Things started to go sideways when I put fuel in it . . .

 . . . the grit was sharp enough to put two near microscopic holes in the underside.  Poking around confirmed there was no rot; the grit had simply found a couple of very slightly weak spots around weld seams and blown though.  Fuel and powdercoat really don't mix, and so I ended up needing to get the tank done again.  And then the rebuilt fuel tap leaked . . .

Suffice it to say that unless you're going to use a very soft media type or do something like vapour blasting, it's really not worth risking the cost of a paintjob simply to save a couple of hours work.  At the same time, the insides of tanks can incorporate some very odd shapes that aren't easy to blindly work around.  The tank I had done is from the mid-60's and has such a high middle section where it straddles the frame that it needs a connector hose to get fuel from one side to the other (hence the number of weld seams).  Working around that sort of thing would be a nightmare - and as others have pointed out, getting the media and the ultrafine dust it generates out when you're done would be more trouble than it's worth. 

You really don't want any of that getting into the engine . . .

Thanks for the explanation and evidence of your experience - i'm definitely not going to go down the blasting route!
Over the next few days when I have finished swishing my gravel about I plan to put some white vinegar I already have in stock to use before I proceed to electrolysis. I plan to use a multi phased approach as necessary to get a good finish.

Reading online reviews on Evaporust they talk about it leaving metal surfaces a dark /blackish colour.  I am very aware that surface rust soon returns so the idea of some sort of residual protective coating appeals. Its a shame that a reverse electrolysis cant easily be used at home to coat the tank surface with zinc or nickle.

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CB500/550 / Re: About to start my project, but it doesn’t...
« on: September 06, 2020, 09:30:33 AM »
You say you have spark. How sure are you, it's at the right time? You can check this with a strobe attached or crank the engine manually and listen closely for 'cracks' while watching the timing marks. Has the advancer been apart? Also check spark isn't 'leaked' from plugcaps and/or HT leads to the head.

Pretty sure most manuals will explain how to set static timing with a simple test lamp arrangement it's not as accurate as using a timing light but certainly good enough to get her running.

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CB500/550 / Re: About to start my project, but it doesn’t...
« on: September 05, 2020, 08:51:58 PM »
As has been said put the air box & filter in place - it reduces the fire risk from a backfire.Even if you have the ignition timing 180 deg wrong the plugs will be wet  after cranking that will tell you fuel is getting through imho.
I assume you know there is some compression?
Likewise did you test for spark at the plugs?

Fuel, spark, compression ignition timing at the right cylinder - it's got to run in some sort of fashion.

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Apologies Ted for hijacking your thread ☺️☺️☺️

I'm okay with meandering / hijacking threads as there is usually a good point or nugget of information in the process.

There is a genuine Honda Petcock on e-bay with what looks like the right part number at £75 starting bid - it had no bids on previous listings. If it is NOS the rubber seals might be perished.

Can you get the O rings for the tap as that and the strainer/filter would do for me ?

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Anyways I'm tickety boo today but am stuck until some bits & the Electrolyte arrives for my tank cleaning task. Still awaiting a sellers  response on a cheap Petcock.

What electrolyte are you waiting for? All you need is some bicarbonate of soda.

The other thing to try if you’re not in a hurry is white vinegar; it is very cheap (<£20 for 20L on EBay) and avoids all the hassle of fashioning electrodes shaped to reach the deeper recesses of the tank. The one advantage of electrolysis is that it only attacks the rust, not the good metal underneath.

Just pour the vinegar in and leave for a few days – depending on the degree of rusting – pour it out, but not down the drain. If you’re not happy just pour the vinegar back in and wait some more. If there is a lot of deposit in teh vinegar you can strain it using a kitchen sieve.

I bought some white vinegar a few weeks ago with a view to trying it - then read loads of reviews saying it does not work! We having it on our Fish & Chips instead. lol

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You can also use Citric Acid (available everywhere and as cheap as chips). It is the main ingredient in Deox-C. We have used Citric Acid with excellent results.

In reality I guess the Citric Acid is just there to produce ions to allow the current to flow so many alternatives can work. Obviously not Table Salt as that would give off Chlorine gas as opposed to Hydrogen at the Electrode (Anode end ?).

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Work has ground to a halt due to an overnight stay in local Hospital - I had Merlot posing as Urine then must have passed a kidney stone the pain was the worst I have ever had in my life - including a fractured femur when I was 18.
Had a scan of my kidneys yesterday waiting for the camera jobby to check my bladder out. Oh the indignity I have to face within 14 days as a day patient!

Anyways I'm tickety boo today but am stuck until some bits & the Electrolyte arrives for my tank cleaning task. Still awaiting a sellers  response on a cheap Petcock.

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CB350/400 / Re: Fitting DSS coils
« on: September 04, 2020, 08:53:49 PM »
DSS must have changed the coils they supply or you don't have the correct mounting posts. I bought new coils from DSS and they fitted straight on without any mods.
I've definitely got the right mounts. The DSS coils are  a little bit longer and come with a fitting kit.

Presumably you have tried swapping the mounting posts from left side  to right side  at one end or even both ends to make up the length difference? You could then lop off the bit in the way if you get my drift. Alternatively you can rotate the posts and insert a simple 90 Deg bracket like on a kitchen unit type fitting.

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CB350/400 / I had to Google it as I did not know !
« on: September 04, 2020, 08:50:28 PM »
There's me thinking along the lines of OEM decided NOS must be the Japanese equivalent of "Blueprint" or "Quinton Hazel" then the penny dropped or should that be Yen clanged to the floor.

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CB350/400 / Re: Why can't you have rusty petrol tank shot or bead blasted ?
« on: September 04, 2020, 08:46:58 PM »
I've ordered the Sodium Carbonate, I gave my old 4 amp trickle charger to my brother so I will borrow it back from him as I have sold all my old PC's. I will post pics of the froth once I get started! :D

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CB350/400 / Re: Fitting DSS coils
« on: September 04, 2020, 04:26:37 PM »
I managed to fit my Dynatek Coils using both old mounts but with some cutting as can be seen in the photo is the DS replacement coil longer ?

CB 400F2 coil mounts by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr

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CB350/400 / Re: Why can't you have rusty petrol tank shot or bead blasted ?
« on: September 04, 2020, 12:20:19 AM »
I have cleaned the tank on my RD350 with amazing results.

Wash the tank out with water then get a small tub of Bicarbonate of soda from the supermarket. Mix it with water then fill the tank to the brim, I use half the tub with full tank of water.

Connect a DC power supply, battery charger or whatever. Negative to the tank, and the Positive to a steel bar (I used an old Allen key) and put it in the filler neck but don't let it touch the tank.

Turn power on and watch it fizz, keep topping the water up and every now and then clean the steel bar. It will take a good few hours. Also swirl the tank around to removed any trapped pockets of air.

Best to do it outside as the bubbles produced are Hydrogen  ;)

I don't have a before pic but it was so bad I was on the lookout for a new tank.

This is a fairly slow process, it probably took 12 hours or so.

That sounds interesting I have seen stuff on the internet suggesting the use of  Sodium Carbonate instead of Sodium Bicarbonate. Not sure if my C-Tek would work as the charger though I think I still have my original charger in my loft unless I chucked it. I have nothing to loose I guess so might give it a try.

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CB350/400 / Why can't you have rusty petrol tank shot or bead blasted ?
« on: September 03, 2020, 06:03:11 PM »
I guess it might be either an access issue or removing the waste but why not the above - I'm tiring of swishing my tank with gravel in it  every time I go in my garage.

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Other Bikes / Re: The dark side
« on: September 03, 2020, 05:59:06 PM »
I had a second hand Suzuki 750 GS in 1980/81 ish only owned it for a few months.  Two things scared me it's willingness to lift the front wheel off the ground if you dared to use first gear.  Plus all the chrome work was pimpled or rusty when it was only 2 years or so old.

Replaced the chain within weeks as it was so out of shape with a Reynolds one but left the sprockets as they were due to cost.  The chain was too wide for the sprockets but I was assured by the place that sold it me that that did not matter a jot! Had shaft drive after that my Honda CB400 is the first chain driven bike I have owned since I sold the Suzuki.

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