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CB500/550 / Re: 550 k3 grabrail?
« on: December 20, 2022, 05:22:47 PM »
Same company as my link Ted.

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Project Board / Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 circa 1972.
« on: December 20, 2022, 03:37:46 PM »
Depends on what you already have Ted, you need a spare caliper and disc, a set of 550 sliders, a longer set of disc bolts and another part of the brake line. Not that expensive if you already have some of these. There's a little work involved as well adapting the speedo drive.

For me it's a good investment, if it stops you quicker it could just avoid an accident and those can be very expensive. 

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CB500/550 / Re: Those 3 headlamp bowl collar washers question.
« on: December 20, 2022, 03:16:06 PM »
My CB1300 uses the same type of collar Ted but the part number is slightly different, 61304-379-690. Now that could just be because they are black instead of silver or made of a different metal but they are still available. I used the ones Trigger sent me on the 1300 and they fitted just fine so they clearly are the same design.

You should be able to order them online and have them posted if you don't have a Honda dealer nearby.

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Project Board / Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 circa 1972.
« on: December 20, 2022, 03:09:15 PM »
Your not thinking of doing the double disc conversion Ted? Makes the front end look more balanced IMO and of course braking is improved.

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Project Board / Re: Teds new project a CB500 K0 circa 1972.
« on: December 20, 2022, 03:07:43 PM »
AFAIK Paul so long as it passes the beam pattern test it should pass the MOT. Same for when you fit an LED bulb into a regular headlight. Mine passed no problem this year.

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CB500/550 / Re: Those 3 headlamp bowl collar washers question.
« on: December 20, 2022, 03:03:33 PM »
It looks like you've misread the parts book Ted, 61303 is the earthing mount that holds the indicator stem in place and 61304 is the small top hat washers that the headlight mounting screws go through.

Trigger used to do the later in Stainless Steel as he sent me some a couple of years ago, whether he still sells them I couldn't say, depends on stock levels and whether he made a few that he's not sold.

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CB500/550 / Re: 550 k3 grabrail?
« on: December 20, 2022, 02:53:15 PM »
The place I bought my CB500 gear selector forks does copies of a few of the Honda 500/550s and they do list a UK version of the grabrail. The copies are supposed to be really good, Andy Cepok buys them and sells them on.

Might be worth a look if you're after one.

https://www.gbmotosport.it/en/honda.html

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Desperately Seeking!! / Re: Tank repairer recommendations
« on: December 19, 2022, 08:53:44 PM »
My Dads name was George but some knew him by Ernie as that was his middle name, his Dad had the exact same name so growing up they all called my Grandad George and my Dad Ernie, my Mum always called him Ernie. I remember asking him about the Tilting train and he said it would tilt on corners but sometimes it wouldn't come back up so the train needed to stop until they got it fixed. It's still around somewhere I believe, it was parked in Crewe for years.

Not sure about early retirement but could be true, he was eligible I suppose but unlike a lot of other people the sight didn't particularly bother him, at the end of WW2 he was helping the last British hangman Albert Pierrepoint to hang Japanese POWs who were convicted of war crimes, he was stationed in Changi prison in Singapore before being demobbed in 1946.

I've driven hundreds if not thousands of Leyland Atlanteans Ken, both the PD1 and PD2 types. When I passed my PSV back in 1976 there were very few front loaders as we called them, I found a couple of pics on the web with me in them, one is me driving but you can't really see me but the conductor was my old guard Bob and the other is me as a conductor. Both were Leyland Atlanteans in the pics.

After my Mum died in 2007 my Dad suddenly opened up about his war years. Before that he didn't refuse to talk but he wouldn't say much about it, I didn't for instance know he was in the 2nd Battalion of the Durham Light Infantry until 2008, we were watching World at War on TV one day and it was a clip of Pathe news I think that they'd show in cinemas back in the UK, the type with a jolly upbeat commentary like "Here's our gallant lads crossing the Rawapindi" for instance. We were watching that crossing and out of the blue he says "Wasn't like that at all" I said what wasn't. "That crossing" he said, I asked how he knew and he said he been there, just then the troops passed in front of the camera and bugger me there's my Dad, he was pointing out all his mates and what happened to them, stuff like Chalky White, got killed by a land mine, Sid, got blown up by artillery etc. The stories he told me after that were shocking, I remember looking at him and thinking I didn't know him at all, he was shot 3 times by a Jap machine gun he told me, now I've been swimming with my Dad loads of times and I knew what a bullet hole looked like as my Great Uncle was in WW1 and he showed me his bullet holes and they are unique, you can't mistake them. When I said that he lifted up his shirt and bugger me there's one, a through and through just at the edge of the torso, another one in his arm and one he wouldn't show me as it was in "A delicate area"

Roo I'd love to see that vid if you can find it. Doubt it would be the Edgeley Shed event though, most likely a Yorkshire one as it was a country wide event and travelled around.


Steve, that comment made me laugh. I wasn't aware it was so long.

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Misc / Open / Re: Electrifying our History
« on: December 19, 2022, 07:57:55 PM »
As it's his production company making the program it's unlikely that he will be replaced. I can tolerate him so long as it's a bike program, some of his rides look really nice, I just wish he weren't such an arse.

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Desperately Seeking!! / Re: Bar clamps 550f
« on: December 19, 2022, 07:56:15 PM »
If I find the right clamps I'll let you know.

Other than that, my Cb1300 uses the same type of clamp and allen bolts to secure them. Honda fitted the bolts with chrome caps which makes them look far better and stops water collecting in the hole in the bolt and rusting them, even stainless will rust in that situation. 91455-KEA-000, not cheap but do finish the area off well.

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CB500/550 / Re: CB550k1 US Import - UK registration
« on: December 19, 2022, 04:21:22 PM »
If the crank doesn't show any signs of wear and the crankcases look ok, eg shells haven't spun, they I'd stay with the colours that Honda fitted from the factory. But that's entirely up to you, never been a fan of plastigauge, far to easy to get contradictory results.

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Desperately Seeking!! / Re: Tank repairer recommendations
« on: December 19, 2022, 03:58:33 PM »
To explain why I drove all those locos some context might help.

My Dad joined BR in 1946 after coming home from WW2, he started as fireman and I still recall him coming home with a badge saying Passed Fireman which meant he could also drive trains as well as be a Fireman. He was always the type of person who looked out for others so it was natural for him to become the Shop Steward and eventually became Senior Shop Steward (he eventually became the NUR Trade Union Conference representative). When steam was being phased out he'd been there over 20 years and was well known and entrenched, being Senior Shop Steward allowed him to virtually do what he wanted when he wanted, so when BR announced they were doing a sort of travelling show of all the famous locos so the public could see them one last time he asked if I'd like to go, being a bit of a train spotter I of course jumped at the chance. One of the events was held at Edgeley Shed in Stockport, all the famous locos were there along with a lot of less known ones, all were fired so they were all "In Steam" as it was known. I got there and my Dad asked if I'd like to have a go driving Flying Scotsman, well who wouldn't. I'm not sure how old I was but at the time my growth spurt hadn't really kicked in so I was kinda short for my age. We went onto the footplate and by this time my Dad was an instructor on steam (he eventually became one of the test drivers for the High Speed tilting train) so he showed me which levers to pull etc and I moved Flying Scotsman down the line about 100 yards, the huge crowds there loved it as they saw it moving and they were cheering so much etc that the management said it was ok to move some of the others as well. So next was Mallard and then Britannia (which was only really included as it was available as a Hornby 00 train so everyone knew it) then I did a couple of others and finished off on Evening Star which was on a line by itself due to the 6 wheel arrangement, not well known but Evening Star and it's sister locos could only operate on certain lines, any line with a certain radius of curve and it couldn't get round the bend in the track. So Evening Star was on a line that didn't go into the shed due to the bends that those lines had. I can still remember the cheer when Evening Star moved, I was pulling down a large lever from the roof area that I seem to recall was called the Regulator, the further it came down the faster you went, brakes were another lever just in front of the drivers seat. In all I moved around 7 or maybe 8 trains that day, Oliver Cromwell wasn't one of them as Mallard was there (Sister trains of the same design, and yes AFAIK, it still holds the speed record), I drove Oliver Cromwell later just before it went out of service along with a few others I can't recall now but one was certainly Bahamas as it was based at my dads shed. Most were unnamed locos but I enjoyed them just the same. 

I remember asking my Dad if he was sad about steam going and he said no, they were horrible to work on, horrible to drive (imagine having to stick your head out of a window all night in winter whilst doing high speeds) they smelled and made you smell, dirty etc. I suppose those of us who didn't have to work them look through rose tinted glasses.

A few years later and I'm a bus conductor, I'm sitting at home one morning when my dad comes downstairs, sees me and asked what I'm doing that day. Nothing I said, so he asked if I'd like to go to London with him and drive an electric train, I asked how we'd get away with that and he said simple, go upstairs and put your bus uniform on, it looks almost the same as a BR one, a sort of heavy duty very dark blue/black twill, I had to remove all my badges etc but it certainly looked the part. He drove the train from Manchester Piccadilly and I boarded at Edgeley Station, it was a huge tractor unit, with the pantographs on the roof, it was also named but I can't remember what it was called now. Anyway, we set off and he showed me around the cab, it was quite an unpleasant motion I have to say, the cab is unsprung (or was back then, early 70's) so every bump in the track, every line joint was transmitted to the cab, it shook quite violently and the motion could cause sea sickness. It was impossible to have a full cup of tea for instance as it would spill everywhere. After Birmingham and as the line was running beside the M1 I was given a go, got to over 100mph and then I had to pull into a station, maybe Milton Keynes?  After the stop I was shown how to get it going again, just small movements of a lever in front of you, like the brake lever of a steam train TBH, there were alarms and switches all over, one dial showed what the last signal was showing, one my Dad called Tweety Bird as it whistled when you passed a signal and you had 3 secs to press a large button to stop the whistling or it would apply the brakes, another large steel button on the floor under the seat, you had to keep that pressed down all the time or the brakes came on, dead mans switch that one in case the driver died whilst driving. He told me of 3 people who had committed suicide whilst he was driving, they'd stand at the exit of a tunnel and just step out as the train exited, due to the change in the light at the time the driver was unable to spot them and was usually totally unaware they'd done it, told me he was driving one day when blood started to come up the windscreen from below, thinking he'd hit a cow (wasn't uncommon) he stopped the train and there were bits of a woman all over the front of the train. Another time he pulled into a station and people were fainting and being sick, there was a head shattered all over the front of the loco along with other various body parts. He claimed he was unaffected by it (WW2 vet so saw much worse he said) but other drivers left or were really affected by it. One arrival at Euston we were scheduled to come back passenger so the trip back was like chalk and cheese, smooth, ate a lovely meal and chatted to the train staff who all knew my dad. A great day out and a cracking experience.

So train driving looks kinda glamourous but I suppose like lots of jobs there are downsides to it as well.

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Desperately Seeking!! / Re: Bar clamps 550f
« on: December 19, 2022, 04:34:31 AM »
You do know those are not correct?

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Misc / Open / Re: Electrifying our History
« on: December 18, 2022, 08:11:14 PM »
I really don't like Henry Cole, his condescending manner just gets on my wick, he's always trying to be funny and he isn't. He always seem to find every bike the best that's ever been, I've never heard him give a real life honest to god impression on anything. We can't love all bikes, there are some we just don't like, no reason sometimes, they just don't float our boat. He doesn't seem to have any of those. He appears to have zero mechanical knowledge, he seems barely able to handle a spanner never mind use it. I watch his program despite that, I like to see some of the rides he does, I like to listen to Alan Millyard and see his genius at work. He always seems to have mates he loves to put down as well, that annoys me as well.

Whilst I have no doubt he started as a genuine biker I don't think he's one now, too interested in making money off bikes IMO.

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Misc / Open / Re: Electrifying our History
« on: December 18, 2022, 06:27:05 PM »
IMO at true motorcyclist is one prepared to ride in any weather, doesn't matter how windy or snowy it is they'll get the bike out. They don't say it looks like rain so I'll not bother, they aren't really interested in being admired, that's not why they like motorcycling, to them it's about the thrill, the ride, in some respects the danger, they know the danger but they take as many steps as they need to reduce it. If they come off, the first thought is the bike not themselves, if they are injured they can't wait to get back on.

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