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Title: Oil jets
Post by: Rob62 on July 24, 2018, 10:54:31 PM
I was chatting to a guy at the Mallory festival of 1000 bikes a couple of weeks ago. I was telling him about my CB750 project. He asked me if I knew that the oil jets needed to be drilled out to a larger size than standard to ensure they dont block up. I said I hadn’t read about it but I did know that they can become blocked.... he seemed quite confident that it was a common well known modification. What do you guys reckon?
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Trigger on July 24, 2018, 11:07:06 PM
Never enlarge a oil jet, this will reduce the pressure in the bottom end  ;)
It is not called a restrictor jet for no reason.
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Rob62 on July 24, 2018, 11:11:29 PM
Yes, it'll certainly reduce the velocity. You ever come across any enlarged jets trigger?
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Trigger on July 24, 2018, 11:19:22 PM
Yes, it'll certainly reduce the velocity. You ever come across any enlarged jets trigger?

Yes, on fecked cranks  ;)
Drilled out jet on the left, original on the right, and the crank was the result   >:(

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Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: MrDavo on July 25, 2018, 09:04:27 AM
Yes but the jet wasn’t blocked, was it?

Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 25, 2018, 10:13:29 AM
Two options, well 3 actually. Blocked jets, the cam is toast. Drilled out jets, the crank is toast, along with oil pump, gearbox bearings, shells and when the swarf gets up to the jets, your cam is toast as well. Standard jets with no blockages and not drilled out, nice running engine with no damage.
If anyone requires any drilled out jets, knackered oil pumps, gearbox bearings etc, or knackered cams, we have quite a collection!!! 😭😭😭😭
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: paul G on July 25, 2018, 12:44:31 PM
Two options, well 3 actually. Blocked jets, the cam is toast. Drilled out jets, the crank is toast, along with oil pump, gearbox bearings, shells and when the swarf gets up to the jets, your cam is toast as well. Standard jets with no blockages and not drilled out, nice running engine with no damage.
If anyone requires any drilled out jets, knackered oil pumps, gearbox bearings etc, or knackered cams, we have quite a collection!!! 😭😭😭😭

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Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Rob62 on July 25, 2018, 07:07:35 PM
Well put Julie.. ;D
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: UK Pete on July 25, 2018, 09:11:47 PM
Can't believe people tell such bullshit tales
The engines are designed to run with these jets as all posts mention it's gonna kill the engine drilling them out


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Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: UK Pete on July 25, 2018, 09:13:10 PM
It's much like the old tale of putting sawdust in the engine to quite it down
WTF  I have heard several takes of that 🤣🤣🤣

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Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Moorey on July 25, 2018, 09:23:44 PM
You can picture the thought process.
I know if I drill these out it will let more oil through.
End of thought process.
It also tells you a lot about those who told you to do it.
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: adespin on July 17, 2019, 12:06:53 PM
Is there any way of telling if the jets are blocked or on the way to getting blocked without removing the engine ? do the jets provide a splash feed to all parts under the cam cover ? is it possible to see the jets in action through the tappet covers while running ? Many questions i know, but i'm getting paranoid, i adjusted the tappets about three hundred miles ago, and i can now hear them again, i will check them again to see if they have altered.
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: adespin on July 17, 2019, 12:34:07 PM
Just done a forum search and i now realise that i have asked a similar question last year, dementia must be setting in  :(
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 17, 2019, 04:01:51 PM
Did you get an answer last time....dont forget the rest of us must have dementia setting in too 🙄🙄🙄
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: adespin on July 18, 2019, 05:26:33 PM
Did you get an answer last time....dont forget the rest of us must have dementia setting in too 🙄🙄🙄
Sort of, still not sure if the cam carrier bearings are pressure lubed or splash fed.

Thanks,
Adrian.
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: Bryanj on July 18, 2019, 05:51:42 PM
Fairy certain bearing are pressure lobes and followers splash
Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: K2-K6 on July 18, 2019, 07:00:38 PM
They are fed like a pressure bearing but have a significant leak out to onward feed the splash section generally.

The oil restriction "jets" are there to separate the high pressure crank assembly from the low pressure head demands and maintain correct pressure level for crank assembly.

The cam is obviously running half crank speed,  the bearings are quite small diameter so surface speed between cam and head bearings is fairly small,  making it fairly undemanding of oil pressure,  as long as it gets a clean constant supply, then it's happy.

More of a constant feed than pressure for cam journals.


Title: Re: Oil jets
Post by: royhall on July 19, 2019, 05:58:35 PM
No need to drill them out, many and frequent oil changes are the key to long engine life on these. A guy at Stafford tried to tell me to drill the oil drains larger? I just walked away.
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