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Title: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on October 30, 2022, 12:56:43 PM
When I changed the swingarm I noticed the chain was quite slack so adjusted it on fitting the new swingarm.

Went for a run and came back - checked things over and noticed the chain was again slack - no problem I must have not tightedned everything ... so adjusted again ....

Now something made me spin the wheel and check the play at different points on the chain - and it varies from too tight / too loose / just right

Am I correct in thinking the chain probably wants changing due to stretch etc

If so any recommendations as to make / supplier

Thanks

Simon
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: Sesman on October 30, 2022, 12:58:30 PM
Possibly chain and sprockets I’d say?
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 30, 2022, 12:59:43 PM
sounds like it, sounds like you have some tight spots too. Change it, they're not dear. I got one from Mr silver  recently and I dont think it was more than £40.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 30, 2022, 01:00:28 PM
meant to say, change the sprockets, too. Cheap as chips ....
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on October 30, 2022, 01:04:41 PM
Thanks guys ....would my limited skills be able to do the sprockets aswell ?
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 30, 2022, 01:16:14 PM
Hi Simon sprockets are easy to change, if you can change a swing arm you can do front & rear sprockets make sure you buy ones with the same number of teeth.
No special tools need.


Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on October 30, 2022, 01:19:49 PM
Hi Simon sprockets are easy to change, if you can change a swing arm you can do front & rear sprockets make sure you buy ones with the same number of teeth.
No special tools need.

Thanks Ted

I'm assuming it is these three parts

https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB500K1-FOUR-1972/part_372979/

https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB500K1-FOUR-1972/part_61491/

https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/CB500K1-FOUR-1972/part_61492/

Simon
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 30, 2022, 01:31:50 PM
They look right - see what Ken or Bryan think before you buy.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: Oddjob on October 30, 2022, 01:38:47 PM
They'll do Simon, however probably cheaper to buy a kit off Ebay to suit. 34T rear sprocket, 17T front, 98 link chain, don't buy an oring chain, a good make like DID with a split link is fine, heavy duty is probably better.

I'll see if I can find one and post a link.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on October 30, 2022, 01:43:21 PM
They'll do Simon, however probably cheaper to buy a kit off Ebay to suit. 34T rear sprocket, 17T front, 98 link chain, don't buy an oring chain, a good make like DID with a split link is fine, heavy duty is probably better.

I'll see if I can find one and post a link.

I looked on ebay as the front sprocket at DS is out of stock and I'm baffled ....

Is it this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/225058026779?hash=item346680f51b:g:rfkAAOSwL5Ziwbfg&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoBm0R9CCClWB097o8eRAt%2FVsnQGY29FxoW8Phbfsv0K9IedUT1LHFvq3lSp8h%2FkgTdPg9Wjcxg8a2SR4l7%2FKNpnvwnpcWbgShL8UFcKwS1%2BTlh4NmsXk8XvL9njjZHSscn9c7KkAgiukpYB9OjeB482X5w%2BVL4rVjLuIAQU6wDxtGShVPWaR6f%2FhNi4jT0XGV7%2Fh32T54q79EDCE9byvyko%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4j705GFYQ

and do I need some tool to join it .... the one on has an openended link thing on it

Simon
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on October 30, 2022, 01:44:42 PM
see then there is this at 1/2 the price  :o

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265505560371?hash=item3dd15d5733:g:VA8AAOSwWgdiR6qK&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoG6Okniz8tGcc4C1h%2B6LKyydl78UaAEHjPVGM5jq4C0hx9HJoKVYCy5Dlqb%2FlwMR9nlIbNLql6JhUO0JZbY0zy%2F0wGZT%2BO37oKNjQQhAOLELyAhhWREGsjJyxahgTeMSrJ4FTJDhp6BVcIV6cAyETrpZo7NNLz61yAh5UoMqUuxnquX3V9xjg9gI8uwLmnaqj8rKm9ccw67ivm0vLgoYdLc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5b705GFYQ
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: Oddjob on October 30, 2022, 01:47:26 PM
Last link looks good.

Tsubaki is a decent chain, DID would be better but that can be subjective.

You'd need a chain splitter depending on how may links the chain has when it arrives, however with a split link you can just grind a pin off the chain and join it with the split link.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on October 30, 2022, 02:18:56 PM
Last link looks good.

Tsubaki is a decent chain, DID would be better but that can be subjective.

You'd need a chain splitter depending on how may links the chain has when it arrives, however with a split link you can just grind a pin off the chain and join it with the split link.

Ordered - many thanks for the help Ken
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: deltarider on October 30, 2022, 09:40:49 PM
Tsubaki chains were the best I had.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: deltarider on November 01, 2022, 09:05:07 PM
see then there is this at 1/2 the price  :o

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/265505560371?hash=item3dd15d5733:g:VA8AAOSwWgdiR6qK&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoG6Okniz8tGcc4C1h%2B6LKyydl78UaAEHjPVGM5jq4C0hx9HJoKVYCy5Dlqb%2FlwMR9nlIbNLql6JhUO0JZbY0zy%2F0wGZT%2BO37oKNjQQhAOLELyAhhWREGsjJyxahgTeMSrJ4FTJDhp6BVcIV6cAyETrpZo7NNLz61yAh5UoMqUuxnquX3V9xjg9gI8uwLmnaqj8rKm9ccw67ivm0vLgoYdLc%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5b705GFYQ
Only... when I zoom over the front sprocket I see it's an 18t one and not a 17t...
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on November 02, 2022, 05:20:04 AM
Only... when I zoom over the front sprocket I see it's an 18t one and not a 17t...

I hope that is just a generic picture  :(

The writeup says OE spec ....

I'll report back

Simon
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on November 04, 2022, 05:33:10 AM
All arrived today - they were generic photos as all correct sprockets and chain cut to correct number of links

So all good to go Saturday  :)

Simon
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 04, 2022, 05:40:59 AM
Nice one Simon - great when you get the right bits.

PS I think Roo has sorted my missing brake pedal return spring problem. He is posting me what looks like the right one.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: SPR on November 04, 2022, 10:17:24 AM
PS I think Roo has sorted my missing brake pedal return spring problem. He is posting me what looks like the right one.

That's a win then :)
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 04, 2022, 12:59:27 PM
Absolutely I've been on HOLD mode for almost a week

In my head I have an assembly order plan so I can't paint the engine cases until the rear swing arm is in place.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: deltarider on November 04, 2022, 01:45:22 PM
All arrived today - they were generic photos as all correct sprockets and chain cut to correct number of links

So all good to go Saturday  :)

Simon
Very good deal then. I wish I could get that set here for that price...
The Tsubaki is the better chain. The ones I had long time ago, came new with grease in the links.
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 02:00:20 PM
posred today first class to ease the anxiety Ted, should be with you in 24/48hrs bud. ;)
Title: Re: Chain adjustment question
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 04, 2022, 02:08:03 PM
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