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Title: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 20, 2015, 01:08:33 PM
My recently acquired Seeley Honda is in need of a replacement Pagehiln rear master cylinder, or at least a re-build kit.  It seems that Pagehiln closed down in the late 80's so new items are, not surprisingly, non-existent.  If there are any alternatives I might use that would be good too.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3787/19235033003_668bd05338.jpg)

Needed for this beauty:

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/532/19695764916_e7c4369451_z.jpg)

Cheers   Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Bryanj on July 20, 2015, 05:28:24 PM
Loks simila to a Lockheed mate
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 20, 2015, 06:29:34 PM
Similar Bryan, but not unfortunately the same.  I have not been able to match a Lockheed (or AP) unit in my web searched, nearest is an Airheart unit but I cannot find a UK source for those.  Thanks for getting back to me though.

Cheers    Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Bryanj on July 21, 2015, 07:56:43 AM
Can you not use a lockheed AP and modify or remake the mounting?
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 21, 2015, 03:12:21 PM
Hello Bryan,

I am trying to keep this bike as original as I can so although I could re-engineer the rear brake set-up I don't want to go down that route if I can help it.  So far I have stripped and re-built the Pagehiln unit so it will again move smoothly but I have no idea of the state of the seal etc.

I use AP Lockheed calipers on my Seeley T500 race bike, not master cylinders though, they cost a fortune (AP rear master cylinder in the region of £250 quid)

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2822/9067481144_ddc39a4360.jpg)

Cheers   Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Bryanj on July 21, 2015, 04:53:43 PM
I like the T500, where i worked we built an Egli GT750 for racing, 6 1/2 to the gallon and went like stink. As to the cylinder all i can sugest is take the diameter of the bore and check all the girling lists/packs at autojumbles and things like steam rallies mate, I suspect that a lot of seals are fairly generic as long as the bore is good
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 21, 2015, 05:33:48 PM
Hi Bryan

The bore unfortunately had some corrosion at the outer end, that's why it was seized.  Also the seal has now been taken in, and out twice and was difficult to re-fit so I may have compromised it despite my best efforts.  Awaiting a new length of brake line (in black covering, nearest I could get to the original) to see if the re-furbished M/Cyl will work.

That Egli GT750 sounds interesting, and I can believe the 6.5 mpg lol.

Cheers   Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on August 05, 2015, 01:49:25 PM
Good news, the cleaned up Pagehiln rear master cylinder appears to be functioning well.  I have just successfully put the bike through the UK MOT test,  1 advisory to check out/adjust the swinging arm bearing.  The bike is now fully UK road legal  ;D .  Still a slight misfire on #3 cylinder and that carb also appears to be weeping so a strip down and clean is in order.

Even on the 13 year old Avon Roadrunner tyres the Seeley feels very good to ride, once all the minor problems are resolved I think this machine is going a bunch of fun. 

I am thinking of fitting set of Continental Classic Attack tyres. 100/90x19 front and 120/09x18 rear.  Anyone have any feedback on these?

Cheers   Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Bryanj on August 05, 2015, 03:15:09 PM
Metzelers are better mate in my opinion, aparently made by Pirelli now
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on August 11, 2015, 07:43:02 PM
I decided to fit a set of Avon AM26 Roadriders (110/90-19 F & 120/90-18 R), they are made not 10 miles from me so supporting a local product  :D.  I also use the race compound versions on my Seeley T500 so I am familiar with how they feel.

At the moment the swinging arm is out to address some play in the bearings, still working on that.

After stripping the carbs and giving them a clean the engine is running a lot better although it stills sounds if I have slight miss-fire, still working on that too lol.

Cheers   Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MCTID on August 16, 2015, 11:16:05 AM
Lovely bikes, and a credit to you......I had a Suzuki T500 in 1975.....I rode across Canada and the US (Toronto to Banff). 6000 miles in 3 weeks and it never missed a beat. When I bought it new, the bike had an intermittent misfire and I had it back to the Dealer umpteen times......in the end I threatened to give him the bike back. He left it running in a corner of the garage and he noticed that in the shadows he could see the spark plug covers (galvanised steel) arcing against the frame rails under the tank. He simply cut off the covers - problem solved!

Hope you get your misfire sorted OK.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on August 16, 2015, 12:23:41 PM
Hello MCTID,

The engine mis-fire seems to be improving after more running.  Rather frustratingly after removing the front callipers to extract the wheel for the tyre replacement I now have the RH disc binding, seems the pad is not coming out square and then won't re-tract (knew I should not have stripped everything to clean it all up lol).  Typically we are having a nice spell fine weather I can't get out to see how the new Avons perform.

If you like T500s, here's a photo of my restored T500  :D

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3236/3114029702_9d83eebb2f_z.jpg)

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MCTID on August 16, 2015, 06:00:45 PM
 :D

A thing of beauty.......the colour also reminds me of another old favourite of mine.....the Triumph Stag and TR6 which particularly suited Magenta........splendid. Thanks for posting.....I'm proper jealous.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on August 27, 2015, 11:45:58 AM
I have a small silencer problem after taking the bike for a thrash yesterday lol :

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5629/20895564346_539969bc61.jpg)

There are also cracks on the underside, and the right hand silencer also has at least one rust hole.  I am hoping these can be repaired but if this is typical of the general degradation of the base metal it may turn out that fixing one hole will lead to another failure somewhere else. 

As the likelihood of sourcing a replacement set of Seeley silencers is pretty slim I may have to get some replicas made as I would like to keep the bike looking factory std. if I can. 

Cheers   Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on December 20, 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Happy Yule season all,

The headers came back from their re-chroming.  Also had the exhaust retainer thingies zinc plated.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5737/23574612670_ecd9f4cc1c_z.jpg)

New stainless replica silencers should be ready after the festive period.

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: UK Pete on December 20, 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Nice one geoff, i remember seeing replica seeley pipes on ebay a couple of years back the gut had 4 for sale i wonder if he is on this forum
pete
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on December 21, 2015, 08:57:27 AM
Nice one geoff, i remember seeing replica seeley pipes on ebay a couple of years back the gut had 4 for sale i wonder if he is on this forum
pete

Hello Pete,

I may have spoken to the same chap.  The silencers this guy had were for the Honda framed but Seeley tank/seat unit version utilising a 4-1 exhaust system.  The replica silencers are being made in stainless steel by NRP Exhausts in Nottingham.  I will post photos when I get them.

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on February 05, 2016, 06:23:35 PM
The s/s replica Seeley silencers arrived today.  Not a 100% copy but pretty good.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1626/24743405341_0ddd22958f.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1557/24743404561_12669f6c9c.jpg)

Still some minor fettling to do but they went on fairly easily.  I might get to ride it tomorrow  ;D

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on February 05, 2016, 07:05:55 PM
A little bit of noise  ;D

https://www.flickr.com/photos/zunspec/24744006871/in/dateposted-public/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zunspec/24744006871/in/dateposted-public/)
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on February 05, 2016, 11:04:46 PM
SOHC's sound fantastic when you let em!

Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: UK Pete on February 06, 2016, 12:09:34 PM
I bet that will sound great howling down the street, was it expensive to get the pipe made
pete
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on February 06, 2016, 03:20:49 PM
Hello Pete,

The original Seeley Silencers had unfortunately succumbed to internal corrosion and were too thin to consider repair and re-plating.  These replicas were made by NRP Exhausts in Nottingham in polished stainless steel and although they are not 100% the same as the originals they are pretty close.  The internals are virtually straight through and from the little test run they have  much more of a rasp to them than the originals.  They cost £300 incl. P&P and I consider them very good value for money for a bespoke pair of s/s silencers.  Just wish this rain would go away so I can go for test ride and annoy the neighbourhood  ;D

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on February 11, 2016, 01:16:41 PM
A rare sunny winters day so I decided I deserved a full English brekkie at Merkins Farm Café.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1689/24326064004_0c33e743f0_z.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1634/24930370016_8901fa4b0b_z.jpg)

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1614/24661160880_cfe85d53f9_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: JamesH on February 11, 2016, 01:36:23 PM
Looking very nice...
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: K2-K6 on February 11, 2016, 06:50:37 PM
Very good looking bike, nice to ride around on something like that.

I'm just reading a book about Bernie Ecclestone and didn't realise that Colin Seeley managed the Brabham racing team factory for him just after he bought it, as well as running his own bike company. Don't think they got on too well.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Pops400 on February 11, 2016, 07:24:33 PM
What an absolute beauty.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: yozzer74 on February 12, 2016, 10:26:54 AM
Very nice
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on February 12, 2016, 10:33:37 AM
Thanks folks,

Although apart from the new silencers it is unrestored and original so not much effort on my part.  Paint has blemishes from it's time in long term storage but if I had it all re-sprayed it would not be original any more. 

Love this bike, it's a privilege to have it in my possession  8)

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on March 05, 2016, 11:00:57 AM
I am still checking out the engine on my bike.  The exhaust note is not quite right to me and the #3 cylinder is running rich (not firing every stroke ?), it seems the #3 is being a bit lazy  :D.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1651/25154744429_6607cc68ce_c.jpg)

I am curious why #3 and #1 compression readings are down on #2 and #4, although they are within the range of acceptable (just).  This could be due to the long time the engine was not running so may improve with a bit more use (I have only put 150 miles on it since I got the bike).  I would guess a top end re-build/service is in order but I'm not sure it essential at the moment, any thoughts on the best way ahead appreciated.

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on June 28, 2016, 07:16:52 PM
Hello all,

I have been contacted by the guys from Classic Bike magazine with a request to include my Seeley in a forthcoming feature they will run.  I am presuming it might be about the various bikes (or chassis) with donor engines which were prevalent at the time to match Japanese power with well handling frames.  It would be a great article if they collect a mix of Rickman, Dresda, Bakker, Seeley etc. and feature them together.  I'll let you know how it goes and what likely issue of Classic Bike the article might appear in.

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Rob54 on June 29, 2016, 11:49:42 AM
I am still checking out the engine on my bike.  The exhaust note is not quite right to me and the #3 cylinder is running rich (not firing every stroke ?), it seems the #3 is being a bit lazy  :D.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1651/25154744429_6607cc68ce_c.jpg)

I am curious why #3 and #1 compression readings are down on #2 and #4, although they are within the range of acceptable (just).  This could be due to the long time the engine was not running so may improve with a bit more use (I have only put 150 miles on it since I got the bike).  I would guess a top end re-build/service is in order but I'm not sure it essential at the moment, any thoughts on the best way ahead appreciated.

Cheers  Geoff

Hello Geoff,

Just a thought but I am wondering if you have cleaned out the carbs, what with it having stood for a while, may be some rubbish or blockage in the fuel system causing the different plug colours. Number 4 seems to be running the hottest, followed by number 1, then 2 and then 3, with 1 and 2 looking about right.

Had you just taken the plugs out, as was, to check them or was it after a "plug chop"?

Oh and good luck with the magazine review, would be nice if they could include all those makers you listed.

All the Best,

Rob54.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on June 29, 2016, 01:50:31 PM
Hello Rob.

I have stripped and cleaned the carbs a couple of times, but as you suggest after such a long time without running there is always a chance some debris remains.  The plugs were not subject to a full on plug chop (I have manuals which recommend 5 miles at WOT, some chance  ;D)  However as a general indication they are a guide.  With the replacement silencers I had built I upped the main jets but I think I could go larger.  They were replicas of the original Seeley silencers but are certainly louder which is a sign of being less restrictive.  Overall the engine is running OK but the carbs could certainly benefit from balancing. I will need to get a set of gauges for that so any recommendations welcome.

Yes, it will be interesting to see what the Magazine chaps have in mind as I am only guessing that it it is some form of classic group test. Hope so  :D

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Bryanj on June 29, 2016, 03:05:47 PM
Buy the best gauges you can, the £50-60 are not up to much. There were some reasonable deals on ebay for sealy sets but all over £100
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 03, 2016, 05:41:28 PM
A lovely day at Castle Combe race circuit  8) for the North Glos club meeting.  I went to support a couple of chums who compete in the Desmo Due championship.  The Seeley got loads more attention than the race bikes lol.

Giles Hepworth with his kawasaki green (?) Ducati
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7315/27446568253_62e4fc946d_c.jpg)

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on July 03, 2016, 07:01:48 PM
I had a ball at Castle Combe on my Tiger 800 a couple of weeks ago.

Do they use the "bike chicane" for the club meetings?
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 03, 2016, 08:27:43 PM
Hello Steve,

There are 3 chicanes on the circuit as far as I know, all 3 damn tight to negotiate.  Pre chicanes the lap speeds around Castle Combe were 100mph +, and that was 35 years ago.  There is also precious little run off so I guess something had to be done to slow things down a bit  ;D

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on July 04, 2016, 09:03:53 AM
The one just before the start/finish straight. They told us they only put it in for the bikes (to slow us down...)

I don't know how the 200bhp sportsbike boys handle it but I was wheelying out of there in 2nd on my Tiger  ;D

Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 20, 2016, 03:57:25 PM
I have been out in the sunshine with the Classic Bike magazine chappies today doing the photo shoot of the Seeley.  The feature should appear in the October edition (published last week in September).  The weather was glorious and we had a great time, Gez (rider/journo) and Tim (photographer) were both top blokes 8).  My only complaint, Gez wasn't giving it enough welly and their budget for leather'an lycra clad models was already spent for this month ;D.

Here is one of my photos of Tim taking photos lol.  Also link to my flickr.com album page which also has a bit of video.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8707/27816256583_5159313b16_c.jpg)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/zunspec/albums/72157671221523016 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zunspec/albums/72157671221523016)

Cheers  Geoff

Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 20, 2016, 04:24:41 PM
Fantastic looking bike Geoff, sounds great too!, yes he could have given it a bit more but hey, I'll get the magazine when it's out
PS only thing missing from the post was a photo of you taking a photo of him taking a photo of the bike but we can't have everything I suppose! 😄
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on July 20, 2016, 05:05:50 PM
Yes Gez (Gerard Kane) is a top bloke. I think he's a member on here as he joined in order to post looking for specific models to run in the mag.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 20, 2016, 06:13:59 PM
Hello Steve,

You are correct, Gez spotted the Seeley on this forum.  A really nice guy and treated the Seeley gently, we were going to have a proper blast on the way back home but too much traffic unfortunately.  He liked the idea of a multi bike feature of 1970's specials but realistically admitted that a. Finding the bikes and b. Collecting them all together was logistically challenging.  He was smitten with the Seeley Honda though and mentioned he was discussing this feature with Colin Seeley himself last week and revealed that not keeping an example of the Seeley Honda 750 was one of Colin's regrets.

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: mike the bike on July 20, 2016, 09:31:22 PM
The Motorbike Show is featuring Seeleys at the mo on ITV4..   It's on ITV4 + 1 (channel 206) at 10:00 too.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 20, 2016, 10:40:03 PM
Hi Mike,

I have been catching that show.  Mr Cole is not my favourite presenter, although I have a new found respect when he revealed what he sold (& borrowed) to get himself a Brough Superior.  The interview with Colin Seeley would have been better if he let Colin do most of the talking  ;D

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Jontyp on July 22, 2016, 09:11:41 AM
I really want to like that show but Cole is, without doubt, one of the rudest and most annoying presenters I have ever seen. He constantly cuts across people and sometimes just plain blanks them. There are many words I can think of to describe him but they are not suitable for a public forum. Grrrr  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: royhall on July 22, 2016, 01:15:05 PM
What a wasted effort that show is. It was amusing watching the strip down though, only got the tank and fairing off and he's saying it's nearly stripped. What a dick. Then getting the engine out, it was clear his expert hasn't got a clue what he's doing. It must have been stored properly as there wasn't much oil in the engine. What!! Priceless garbage.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 22, 2016, 02:28:23 PM
Hi Guys,

As it happens I have only just put the phone down after chatting with Mr Colin Seeley himself  8).  He mentioned "The Motorbike Show" and their rescuing of the PRR and actually he sounded quite pleased with the direction this feature is going.  Apparently they have Phil Read himself appearing in a later episode, presumably to road test the finished machine so keep watching. I did mentioned to Colin that I was not a fan of Mr Cole's presenting style, he sort of implied that Mr Cole is OK and a normal enthusiastic bike nut off-camera.  If any of you have ever seen how these sort of shows are put together you will have realised they are far removed from normal life so I will give Mr Cole and the restorer the benefit of the doubt.

Cheers   Geoff

Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 22, 2016, 02:35:49 PM
Me again  ;D

I just received this email from Colin Seeley, great news.

Hi Geoff

The bike looks excellent and from my records I can verify its originality. I Look forward to receiving your cheque and I will then send an official verification letter in due course, together with the book.

Kind regards.

Colin Seeley.


The cheque mentioned is a donation to the Joan Seeley Pain Relief Trust and I ordered Vol 2 of Colins autobiograpy (hopefully autographed too)

Cheers  Geoff

Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: royhall on July 22, 2016, 05:15:14 PM
That said, why would a restoration expert say the engine has been correctly preserved as there is little oil in the engine. Surely he knows a CB750 is a dry sump engine. Or is he reading a script?

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk

Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 22, 2016, 07:30:56 PM
I've met the aforementioned mr cole, he is a very nice guy, bike mad, I spoke to him for over an hour and in the end had to make my excuses and leave, not because he was boring but because I realised he would never have stopped talking!, very down to earth bearing in mind he's a very wealthy chap, his commentary on earlier shows was a bit painful, sort of whispering monotone, but he has improved!, a bit.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: K2-K6 on July 22, 2016, 08:27:28 PM
I long ago realised the limitations placed on any area of particular interest if it is to survive the commissioning and value constraints that are required to occupy any sort of prime time slot. To me there are always going to be parts I maybe disagree with to get it on screen and really just how many consistently published programs on motorcycling do we get to see?

The problem you've got with the colin sealey slot is that he would really deserve a whole program about him, so you're never going to see enough about him in a guest slot. He along with many other UK engineers should be celebrated for how good they are.

Henry I think does a good job on all of his stuff I've seen, he's often tearing around between one thing and another like my mate's springer spaniel (similar haircut too) but is not afraid to show his own failings and offbeat interest in all things mechanical without hyping everything into the stratosphere for dramatic effect.

The restorer,  Pete, is quite a handy road racer with an acknowledged preference for two strokes so cutting him a bit of slack as he takes us through it can't be too bad, can it?

I definitely think it's one of the better made programs about our interests, but do wish that when ever they return to a subject within the program that they cut all the recap shots,  we can remember that far back so just give us more original footage edited into view instead.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: mike the bike on July 22, 2016, 10:45:18 PM
That's my pet hate too; recap shots and what's after the advert shots.  Do producers think we've all got goldfish memories and short attention spans?
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: royhall on July 23, 2016, 08:18:02 AM
Recaps are a cheap way of filling the programmes allotted time......... And to be honest I'm not going to cut anybody any slack, the amount these people get paid for being sloppy is obscene "very down to earth bearing in mind he's a very wealthy chap". If your going to bother making these programmes at least make the effort to do it right........... They could have taken the PRR to Trigger then we would all learn something........ A real waste of a much needed programme, if this show flops it will be a good excuse to not make anymore. Sorry about the Rant, but these cheaply made shoddy programmes are just taking up a slot that could be filled with a good Motorcycle Show. I'm sure Henry is a really nice guy, but he should be on CBBC.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 23, 2016, 09:59:20 AM
He makes the program's himself Roy and sells them to the various TV channels , he said his biggest problem is negotiating a price for the next series cos they know he wants to do it, yes they are made on a shoestring and don't have 100th of the production values of say top gear, but hey at least it's not yet another property show 😄
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: royhall on July 23, 2016, 11:07:20 AM
He makes the program's himself Roy and sells them to the various TV channels , he said his biggest problem is negotiating a price for the next series cos they know he wants to do it, yes they are made on a shoestring and don't have 100th of the production values of say top gear, but hey at least it's not yet another property show 😄
Yes your correct about the property programs. What amazes me is how you guys appear to know all these celebrities. Respect!
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 23, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
Ha, oh the list is endless, a few years ago I saw captain peacock talking to Kato at Leicester forest east services, not too outlandish, but the next day I saw Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch walking down east street in derby, at this point I seriously began to think I was losing it, what a relief when that night in the telegraph it said "Antonio de Fargas at derby playhouse", so I wasn't imagining it after all !.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Johnwebley on July 23, 2016, 09:28:49 PM
Henry Cole is a bit like Marmite ,

 some like him,other don't,

 but if you can ignore some of his silly pieces,he does alot to promote biking,

 if you get chance,explore  freeview channel 42, the Travel channel,

 he does "Shed and buried"

 and "Greatest Motorcycle rides" these can be from NZ,or Australia,Russia,Skandanavia,Isle of Man,

 and all over the USA,
 http://www.travelchannel.co.uk/shows


http://www.travelchannel.co.uk/shows/worlds-greatest-motorcycle-rides

http://www.travelchannel.co.uk/shows/shed-and-buried


Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 24, 2016, 12:09:39 AM
Yep, Henry is OK, but he ain't got a Seeley   8) 8) ;D
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 24, 2016, 12:12:51 AM
Yep, Henry is OK, but he ain't got a Seeley   8) 8) ;D
No he's got a Brough  :o
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 24, 2016, 12:35:18 AM
Brough's, 10 a Penny, compared to a Seeley lol  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 24, 2016, 07:17:22 PM
Ha, yes and I haven't seen a 900ss in his garage either!, no taste the Cole fellow.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: hairygit on July 24, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
Ha, yes and I haven't seen a 900ss in his garage either!, no taste the Cole fellow.
That simply shows he has good sense.... After all, he has a C50 in his shed as well, and that will piss rings round any Italian crap for reliability, longevity, parts availability, and most importantly, street cred!
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 24, 2016, 08:05:25 PM
Speaking of the 900SS, I had this in my care to re-commission and MOT

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8038/8059508085_fe232ac117.jpg)

https://flic.kr/p/ddfCkA


Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Erling on July 25, 2016, 07:02:53 AM
Hallo Zunspec. From me a wish long out!
If you talk to Mr Seeley again might you say hallo from a very happy Dane?
Haven't seen him since I bought frame 789 on my way home from the Silverstone GP '78.
Had intended to pass him on my way home from I.o.M. '79 but a petrol strike made me decide to go straight for the Dover ferry!
Indeed I was on a dream trip to John 'o Groets in glorious sunshine but feared to be stranded somewhere without fuel.
Year before we had been to Lands End from I.o.M.
Wife had decided we had to go because our youth time hero of the sixties"Mike the Bike" made a return to racing after 11 years!
Mike won on a Ducati! Phil Read eventually broke the engine of his Honda at least smoke came out as he passed us.
Erling.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 25, 2016, 11:26:00 AM
Speaking of the 900SS, I had this in my care to re-commission and MOT

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8038/8059508085_fe232ac117.jpg)

https://flic.kr/p/ddfCkA
Very nice indeed, but oh so fragile the bevel.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 25, 2016, 11:36:13 AM
Ha, yes and I haven't seen a 900ss in his garage either!, no taste the Cole fellow.
That simply shows he has good sense.... After all, he has a C50 in his shed as well, and that will piss rings round any Italian crap for reliability, longevity, parts availability, and most importantly, street cred!
How dare you question Italian reliability Hairygit, I'll have you know I have covered a whole 400 miles and not a single break down.....so far 😄
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 25, 2016, 09:06:08 PM
Very nice indeed, but oh so fragile the bevel.
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Hi Mark/hairygit,

Unfortunately I only got to ride it to the MOT shop and from there back to the owner.  All on 12 year old tyres so I could not give it a good blast  ;D.  I do know that the first owner road it to several events in Europe, when I first got it the pannier bracketry was still attached.  He even did a bit of club racing on it I was told.  So it was obviously moderately reliable.

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Green1 on July 25, 2016, 09:40:37 PM
Nice to see someone else getting it in the neck for going italian for a change  ;D
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: westfieldandy on July 26, 2016, 04:32:00 PM
Hi,

I dont post much on here, but had to throw something on here,

Yes I also am a seeley honda owner,  mine is no 792 i think from memory.   It does'nt get out much, due to my racing and development of my cr750, but now maybe it'll get out, as I have now been working on my business working on old classics etc

www.good-bits.co.uk

I have owned the pike for years now, and always was a fan of the seeley from when i was a lad,  I think you have a really good example of the marque here, as when you look on the register and see the pics of others so many of them are modded too much, but this one really shines,

I have had the exhausts remade like you, but never managed to get it to run nice on them.  I reckon its because the wrong cylinders are linked together. it should be 1&3 and 2&4.    so a bridge pipe between the two silencers just after y piece might help.

thats what i think, but not had time to test my theory yet.

andy
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on July 26, 2016, 07:39:14 PM
Hello Andy,

Regarding the Seeley exhaust set-up, the sound from mine has (to my ears) an odd harmonic to it.  It's as if the engine is not firing as it should but then I am more used to the sound of 4-1 systems. Is it the result of the way the cylinders are paired up, not something that occured to me.  At 6000+ rpm and a WOT it sounds absolutly wicked mind  8).

If you have followed this post post from the beginning you know that this Seeley is almost pure period Seeley apart from the silencers and brake lines.  It was "factory" built and as I had the ear of the man himself recently I asked how many of the 300 odd frames he actually assembled in house.  The answer was "not very many" as contrary to my previous belief that Honda supplied the necessary parts Colin had to buy a complete doner bike and transfer the parts just as all other builders had to.

Your CR750 is gorgeous, is it raced with CRMC? . That 836cc big bore kit on your website also looks mighty tempting but I am spending far too much on my own race bike (Seeley T500 replica) to afford it at the moment  ;D

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on September 26, 2016, 02:25:24 PM
Hi,

The feature on my Seeley Honda 750 was published in the October Classic Bike magazine. A good write up from Gez Kane.  Colin Seeley confirms that only 6 bikes were "factory" built by CSRD so it makes my bike a pretty rare example.

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8137/29857466501_1c5924eb04_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Mupjzc)Classic Bike feature Oct 2016 (https://flic.kr/p/Mupjzc) by zunspec (https://www.flickr.com/photos/zunspec/), on Flickr

Here is a link to my flickr album page.  Select a photo then If you go to the bottom right of the page you will see an arrow pointing down.  Click on this and then "view all sizes", you then have a choice of photo sizes, Large is OK to read (you don't actually have to download the photo) https://www.flickr.com/photos/zunspec/albums/72157671221523016

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on October 01, 2016, 09:12:00 AM
I have been offered a Cycle X 850cc piston kit from someone who bought one from the USA but really wanted std. pistons.  My apologies for asking but the "search" facility returns zero posts, even if I just put in Honda lol  ;D  I guess a glitch there somewhere.

The kit is destined for a std. F1 engine but I am interested in the pro's and con's of the cast 850 pistons vice a forged 836cc kit (Wiseco etc.).  If I do go big bore it would be sensible to add a cam and also flow the head etc.  I don't want to go so far that I need stronger rods but upgrade to valve springs/retainers and barrel studs would be OK.  This is not for racing, a stronger road engine is the goal.

Thank for any insights

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on October 12, 2016, 02:10:50 PM
Colin Seeley was kind enough to sign a copy of the Classic Bike magazine feature for me.  A nice addition to the bike history, I think he liked the article too.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5815/29981831880_6e3b83686c_z.jpg) (https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8408/30192882821_09678716ba_z.jpg)

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on October 21, 2016, 04:52:45 PM
I received a letter confirming the authenticity of my bike from Colin Seeley today.  A great addition to the bikes history and well worth the donation to the Joan Seeley Pain Relief Trust.  Thank you Colin  8)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8668/29840213184_43ec55e875_c.jpg)

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 21, 2016, 05:01:01 PM
I know nothing about the Seeley Honda's but what a lovely piece of history. I bet your really proud of that, as will any future owner.
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Zunspec on October 21, 2016, 07:14:27 PM
Thanks Julie,

The provenance of this bike is pretty special so very nice to have it's originality confirmed by the man himself.

Cheers  Geoff
Title: Re: Seeley Honda #SH7-672
Post by: Pops400 on October 21, 2016, 08:48:47 PM
That's pretty damn cool.
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