Post by: JamesH on December 10, 2021, 12:42:41 AM
This is an ex-Saudi CB750 P2 - and let’s just say it’s going to need a LOT of love and attention.
This is going to be a slow-burner over the winter months, especially given the amount of painting required..
Anyway, as they say a picture paints a thousand words, so those of a rust-averse disposition best look away now…
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 10, 2021, 06:01:15 AM
Hopefully the bulk of it will be just surface cosmetic rust as per most of your pictures.
Post by: Bryanj on December 10, 2021, 06:37:25 AM
Post by: Spitfire on December 10, 2021, 10:14:45 AM
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: MrDavo on December 10, 2021, 11:37:45 AM
I think the police bikes look great. Because everything else is plain white, the engine and exhaust, the CB750s best features, really stand out, and that huge speedo is epic! The radio / doughnut box on the back looks handy.
I just read that Honda exited the police bike market quickly, after a LAPD cop, trying a disk brake for the first time, fell off, broke his elbow and sued Honda! As a teenager, my CB750 got pulled, late at night, by a couple of Norton Commando Interpols, but only because I slowed down to see who was trying to keep up.
I've had a couple of old white cars, and can recommend white Duck tape for the rust patches that show through. ;)
Post by: JamesH on December 10, 2021, 11:39:27 AM
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I think the police bikes look great. Because everything else is plain white, the engine and exhaust, the CB750s best features, really stand out, and that huge speedo is epic! The radio / doughnut box on the back looks handy.
I just read that Honda exited the police bike market quickly, after a LAPD cop, trying a disk brake for the first time, fell off, broke his elbow and sued Honda! As a teenager, my CB750 got pulled, late at night, by a couple of Norton Commando Interpols, but only because I slowed down to see who was trying to keep up.
I've had a couple of old white cars, and can recommend white Duck tape for the rust patches that show through. ;)
‘Slowing down’ for the plod - that made ma laugh Dave
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Post by: JamesH on December 10, 2021, 11:41:53 AM
The oil pressure switch wire (with the horrible red crimped connector) is just there for testing - I have a new Honda wire and moulded rubber cover to fit..
Looking nice…
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Post by: MrDavo on December 10, 2021, 12:31:38 PM
Regarding slowing down for plod, the one who caught me up first I actually knew, he'd been trying to join our bike club as he was a keen biker, but we eventually voted 'no' because not all our bikes (or cigarettes for that matter) were strictly legal (this was the 1970s). We had to wait a while for the other, slower, plod to join us, the one I knew actually apologised for the fact that he'd have to 'do' me, because his colleague had watched it all. The summons was suitably vague, 'exceeding the 30 limit' without mentioning the stupid speeds we'd actually been doing, what size bike I was on or the struggle to catch me up. I don't think that alcohol was ever mentioned at the time either, but I was on my way back from taking a lady home after a visit to licensed premises, enough said.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 10, 2021, 12:51:49 PM
A slight tinge of Ivory will make the frame look even more solid.
Post by: MrDavo on December 10, 2021, 02:08:42 PM
Attention to detail.
Post by: Bryanj on December 10, 2021, 02:28:01 PM
Severe bolocking as they said they were doing 90 and i was dissapearing into the distance but they made the mistake of telling me they didnt get my number at any time till i stoppef!
By the way the truncheon is in the LH panier as one of them had to use it to clout the leaking carb
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 10, 2021, 04:14:40 PM
I stripped a couple of NOS Honda Police speedos recently.
There is a little solenoid inside, which when it gets a 12v signal it throws a little pawl thingy into a fine toothed gear wheel. This locks the speedo needle at the desired speed ..presumably to show to the speeding motorist that he has exceeded the legal limit.
Post by: JamesH on December 10, 2021, 04:18:13 PM
Managed to grab an hour at lunchtime to lay out the various parts I’ve been collecting over the years for this specific build. If you though K0 / Sandcast parts were difficult to fine NOS, think again. Think Unicorn bitcoins..
Anyway, enough of the shi* analogies (Dave’s way better / more entertaining at those).
Looking down, I realise there is a serious amount of £ on the floor in front of me - a scary amount in fact.
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Post by: JamesH on December 10, 2021, 04:22:46 PM
Looking good James :)Ash - you absolute legend. I was literally looking at a barely-legible wiring diagram earlier, trying to work out how the ‘meter stop switch’ is actuated / works… I’ll need to study the diagram in more detail when I strip / clean / repair the loom.
I stripped a couple of NOS Honda Police speedos recently.
There is a little solenoid inside, which when it gets a 12v signal it throws a little pawl thingy into a fine toothed gear wheel. This locks the speedo needle at the desired speed ..presumably to show to the speeding motorist that he has exceeded the legal limit.
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Post by: andy120t on December 10, 2021, 04:44:57 PM
Post by: MCTID on December 10, 2021, 05:05:42 PM
I was wondering if you had the rear wheel driven siren as I was going to volunteer to assist.....having successfully emptied numerous barrack rooms in the early hours with my very good impression of a Siren in my TA days.......for which I got a good hiding off the lads......all part of life's rich and merry pageant !
Can't wait to se it progressing....no doubt it will be just as good as all your spectacular rebuilds, but it will probably make a more 'arresting' sight !
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Here goes James ... This was a 'shop soiled' NOS speedo.Awesome info - thanks Ash..
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Post by: MrDavo on December 10, 2021, 06:26:35 PM
Somewhere I have a Smith's Chronometric originally off a Norton Interplod police bike that I rebuilt as a 750S, it has a lead seal and an initialed label, so that if challenged Plod could state in court when, and who by, it was last calibrated.
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I wonder if the speedo evidence was admissible in court?
I had my day in Ruthin Magistrate's Court once, arguing that if the police car chasing me soon caught me up and passed me before the red 'POLICE - STOP' lights came on, it must have been going considerably faster than me, and therefore the reading on his speedo wasn't the speed I was going. I should have paid a solicitor, as it was I represented myself, the copper was 100% flummoxed by my argument (I had brought along a witness, overtaken on his bike by the cop car as it chased me) and had no answer to it. British / Welsh justice being what it is/was then, it made no difference except for making my fine higher. The cop was outside he court sat with his mate in a cop car, laughing as we walked out, no doubt hoping that I would commit a breach of the peace of some kind (I was sorely tempted).
Post by: Spitfire on December 10, 2021, 06:55:59 PM
He wasn't a policeman but a mechanic doing a road test on a bike that he had repaired (Norton) and asked if I would come back to the garage so he could have a look at my bike as they were pretty rare back then.
What followed was a high speed dash to his base in Bromborough with me tagging along behind him at highly illegal speeds, the bike caused quite a stir at the garage with them all complaining about their bikes.
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: Nurse Julie on December 10, 2021, 07:32:18 PM
This reminds me of the day when I was coming home from Chester on my CB750KO and I saw a police bike in front of me so I slowed up and he waved me over so we pulled up to the side of the road.I bet they were pretty amazed when they got a close up view of your K0 Dennis
He wasn't a policeman but a mechanic doing a road test on a bike that he had repaired (Norton) and asked if I would come back to the garage so he could have a look at my bike as they were pretty rare back then.
What followed was a high speed dash to his base in Bromborough with me tagging along behind him at highly illegal speeds, the bike caused quite a stir at the garage with them all complaining about their bikes.
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: JamesH on December 17, 2021, 02:54:43 PM
Managed to take the NOS rear top box to my local Automotive paint merchant who did a spectrograph colour mate - Fiat Bianco 224 seems to be the closest OEM White - so that’s what I’ll be going with.
Will be a few weeks hiatus over the festive period, so next update will likely be 2/3rd week in January..
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Post by: andy120t on December 18, 2021, 05:31:30 AM
Does anyone else watch the reruns of CHiPs on TV? (Channel 96/ Forces TV on my TV). There are usually some great shots of classic bikes and cars in the background or as part of the plot. I was channel flicking last night and it popped up with an advert showing a grey-haired Ponch and a slightly tubbier Jon.... then it told me it was CHiPs 99 and they ride BMW 1100's rather than classi Kawasakis. Nothing is sacred!
Post by: Laverda Dave on December 18, 2021, 10:43:26 AM
Big pile of CB750P parts dropped at the blasters to be blasted and primed, prior to refinishing with 2-pack (2k) semi-gloss white.
Managed to take the NOS rear top box to my local Automotive paint merchant who did a spectrograph colour mate - Fiat Bianco 224 seems to be the closest OEM White - so that’s what I’ll be going with.
Will be a few weeks hiatus over the festive period, so next update will likely be 2/3rd week in January..
Knowing the speed you work at James I guess the third week of January is when we shall see the completed bike :)
Post by: Laverda Dave on December 18, 2021, 11:01:32 AM
Fab project - I'm enjoying the updates.
Does anyone else watch the reruns of CHiPs on TV? (Channel 96/ Forces TV on my TV). There are usually some great shots of classic bikes and cars in the background or as part of the plot. I was channel flicking last night and it popped up with an advert showing a grey-haired Ponch and a slightly tubbier Jon.... then it told me it was CHiPs 99 and they ride BMW 1100's rather than classi Kawasakis. Nothing is sacred!
CHiPs was essential Saturday evening viewing for me as well Andy (as it was also for Alan by the sound of it :)). I was 17 and riding a CB160 and could only dream of a big Kawasaki and going to California but living at home in a rented house and having no money it was going to stay just a dream. 25 years later I was riding a Harley on the same roads in California and dating a girl from Santa Monica! None of it lasted very long but it was a great adventure at the time.
The two main 'stars' of CHiPs actually didn't get along very well. Erik Estrada wanted to be in the movies. Anyone who followed speedway at the time will be aware that Bruce Penhall won the world title at Wembley in 1980 and won it again in 1981 in Long Beach. He had secured a part in CHiPs sas John's younger brother. The scriptwriters wrote the world final into the story. When he won the title he retired there and then to concentrate on his acting. The riding, chase and crash sequences of CHiPs were all filmed on the Glendale freeway that was under construction at the time.
I think I watched too much TV and needed to get out more ::)
Post by: Andrew-S on December 20, 2021, 02:49:58 PM
Post by: Green1 on December 20, 2021, 10:44:01 PM
The earlier ones were the better it just got progressively dafter.
It's clear to see why people struggled to work with Eric Estrada.
I saw CHiPs 99 the other day with fat Eric made my dad laugh.
Post by: JamesH on January 18, 2022, 10:32:11 AM
Collected the frame and painted cycle parts from my painters yesterday - and they’ve done a lovely job. The colour match is 90% perfect to the NOS rear carrier / top box that was used for the colour match - so I’m pretty happy.
Just waiting for rear hub to be re-lined so I can get the wheels built and start assembly and get the engine in and get her back on her feet..
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 18, 2022, 11:12:26 AM
Post by: MrDavo on January 18, 2022, 02:28:14 PM
Interesting that it came from Saudi, I remember seeing a bunch of nearly new white Triumph T160s in Sports Motorcycles. Apparently they had been sold to Saudi Arabia as Police bikes, but being Triumphs had sadly ground to an inevitable halt and had been left wherever they broke down. The prospect of having your hands chopped off for the theft of police property may have helped prevent them from being pilfered at the roadside. Being such a dry climate, they were worth saving, and had been brought back to the UK (I don't know who by) and recommissioned by Triumph.
Maybe yours has also had a long sleep in a hot desert.
Post by: Bryanj on January 18, 2022, 04:31:33 PM
Post by: JamesH on January 29, 2022, 07:00:57 PM
The only difference I could find between the stock loom and P2 (‘75) original loom was the provision of a switched positive feed that runs the entire length of the loom front-back and T’s into the ignition switch (where it gets it’s switched feed from). The simplest solution was to cut this out from the old loom and ‘graft’ into the new loom.
The P2 loom also uses a square connector for the unique police ignition switch (which has 4 positions). This has 5 rather than 4 terminals in the loom—>ignition switch plug (the 5th is the additional switched positive feed which is a red wire with a white band at each breakout point).
I’ve also been searching for weeks for some OEM silver-grey glossy PVC harness sheathing in 18-20mm ID for the headstock end of the loom. The seller in the US only has up to 12mm ID. In the end I gave up as I need the loom in the next couple of weeks as the build accelerates.
So I’ve had to think laterally/innovate a bit here with silver-grey PVC heat-shrink, which luckily turned out pretty well.
Overall was a 2-3 hour conversion process. Photos should tell the story.
The original P2 loom:
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Replacing the ignition switch 4-pin round connector with the original P2 5-pin spade/square connector:
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Applying the silver-great heat stink on the replacement loom:
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The finished loom, complete with original (faded) P2 label:
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Post by: Oddjob on January 29, 2022, 08:17:32 PM
Presume you don't need it. If not it's on there.
Post by: JamesH on January 29, 2022, 08:39:55 PM
Saw a on/off switch for the police lights today on Ebay.Thanks Ken. If it’s the switch that mounts to the headlight bucket/nacelle I’ve got a NOS one thanks. Have a link?
Presume you don't need it. If not it's on there.
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Post by: Lobo on January 29, 2022, 09:44:23 PM
Here in Brisbane, and only a couple of miles away this has been on Gumtree for a while now; a stalled project it seems… (£3650 ‘ish)
https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/upper-coomera/motorcycles/honda-cb750-k7-police-bike/1285799984
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Post by: Oddjob on January 30, 2022, 03:28:31 PM
Saw a on/off switch for the police lights today on Ebay.Thanks Ken. If it’s the switch that mounts to the headlight bucket/nacelle I’ve got a NOS one thanks. Have a link?
Presume you don't need it. If not it's on there.
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No it's like the handlebar switch the 500 uses for switching the lights on but I don't think it's one of those as the wire colours are wrong IIRC
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224548038637?hash=item34481b27ed:g:A3QAAOSwzj5g~qPX
Not sure if it's for your model police bike or some other model. Thought of you straight away.
Post by: JamesH on January 30, 2022, 05:25:51 PM
Thanks Ken. The patrol light switching is dealt with on the handlebar switch on the P2 model I think. I’ve not really studied the wiring in huge detail yet.Saw a on/off switch for the police lights today on Ebay.Thanks Ken. If it’s the switch that mounts to the headlight bucket/nacelle I’ve got a NOS one thanks. Have a link?
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No it's like the handlebar switch the 500 uses for switching the lights on but I don't think it's one of those as the wire colours are wrong IIRC
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/224548038637?hash=item34481b27ed:g:A3QAAOSwzj5g~qPX
Not sure if it's for your model police bike or some other model. Thought of you straight away.
I think the switch you linked to is for a 550/750K (78) police model.
Post by: JamesH on February 01, 2022, 10:27:59 PM
Luckily I had a new points cover in my stock pile - just checked the DSS price and (drum roll) - £360. Yes, £360. 3. 6. 0. British pounds. What the f*** is going on there..?
It turns out the NOS foot pegs came out of the sale of John Wyatt’s estate, via a nice chap who is helping Johns widow sell off his bike related stuff and doing so in a really fair, ethical and transparent way which is a nice touch. Thanks John for keeping hold of these over the years
Anyway, have made the progress I wanted this week - having a week off next week - so next update will be the following week.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on February 01, 2022, 11:01:05 PM
Post by: Laverda Dave on February 02, 2022, 08:08:09 AM
I'm glad you are having a week off, the speed of this restoration has given me a nose bleed😉.
Enjoy your week off🍺
Post by: AshimotoK0 on February 02, 2022, 08:54:46 AM
Fantastic work as always James and I think John would be proud
And DaveA ;) would be proud too!
Yea stonking good progress James ... is Tuesday night ..resto night for you !... like it for myself and BenPowell? We have our Tuesday night resto club at work (where we have bead blaster, mill, lathes etc.) . I named it "WHAM!" Water Hydraulics Association of Motorbikers ;D ;D
Post by: Johnny4428 on February 02, 2022, 11:51:40 AM
Post by: Oddjob on February 02, 2022, 03:00:25 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on February 06, 2022, 12:23:01 AM
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Post by: JamesH on February 27, 2022, 08:54:19 PM
Also, quite a few of the electrical component refurbishment jobs are REALLY time consuming - restoring the original rectifier took 3-4 hours on its own, a couple of hours restoring the pilot light indicator ‘brushed’ plate, building up the rusty seat catch etc..
Anyway, all of the major electrics are now installed. The ‘silver’ heatshrink on the headstock was a complete waste of time as i feared it may be - the heatshrink was way to brittle and would have cracked within a few miles of use, so I striped it off and the loom will just have to remain black sheathed in the headstock area. A small concession really, but it was worth a try.
NOS ‘white’ rear plastic inner muguard was very carefully fitted, rear painted guard fitted and light bracket installed with wiring.
Rear indicators were also fitted and wired up.
Battery and tool tray fitted with new rubbers and new battery.
The rear shocks were new items, but they were stripped into component form and the shrouds were stripped of chrome, colour-match painted, and then reassembled onto the shocks. Again a 4-5hour job. Getting the details right on a build like this is hard, time consuming work. But I know the end product will be worth it.
Rear hubs came back from polishing after Graham kindly re-lined the rear hub after much arm-twisting (and cash).
New bearings have been fitted to both hubs, ready for the wheels to be laced and trued before new continental tyres go on them.
I’ve been saving a pair of NOS Honda oil lines for this bike, as she deserves the best. I’ve also saved a set of NOS Honda HM341 exhausts for the bike. The parts bill for this bike is going to be bloody eye watering
Next job will be to fit new bronze bushes to the swingarm and get that fitted, lubed and adjusted.
Oh, I also have had to rebuild the original speedometer (damping action was fine) with parts from the NOS speedometer I had - the drive mechanism on the NOS unit I had wasn’t correct for my particular vintage of police bike.
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Post by: Oddjob on February 27, 2022, 09:55:09 PM
Post by: JamesH on February 27, 2022, 10:00:17 PM
Are you doing the polishing yourself James? that amount of polishing would take ages in my experience.Hi Ken. No - all the polishing is done by a pro; it’s grotty, dirty and skilled work beyond my skill set and resources. So I choose my battles lol..
Post by: Johnny4428 on February 27, 2022, 11:16:57 PM
Post by: Trigger on February 27, 2022, 11:31:07 PM
Post by: JamesH on February 28, 2022, 10:18:22 AM
Strange to see a early seat catch on such a late bike ?I suspect Honda tooled-up for the shorter Police seat base (which is base on the early K0/K1 seat pattern) and carried the design through from K0 to the later models to avoid having to adjust existing stock. Just my theory anyway.
Post by: Trigger on March 01, 2022, 07:06:11 AM
I know that Honda police bikes in the UK were done by Honda Dealerships or third party contracts.
All the BMW police bike were converted by Mottingham Motorcycles in the 70's / 80's. And all the dominos pizza Honda's were converted and sold by Grafton Motorcycles in wolverton. Never found out who did the Honda CD250 police bikes. We have one but, it was sold to the police, never converted or used by them.
Post by: royhall on March 01, 2022, 07:58:36 AM
Post by: Laverda Dave on March 01, 2022, 05:00:58 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 01, 2022, 05:34:11 PM
Post by: Oddjob on March 01, 2022, 05:40:26 PM
Are you doing the polishing yourself James? that amount of polishing would take ages in my experience.Hi Ken. No - all the polishing is done by a pro; it’s grotty, dirty and skilled work beyond my skill set and resources. So I choose my battles lol..
Well whoever does it is damned good. I'm betting though it's not cheap.
Is the earth cable meant to be on the outside of the frame James, looks odd there, I'd have thought between the frame and the spacer would have been a better place.
Post by: JamesH on March 01, 2022, 05:52:35 PM
Fantastic work as always James. Are you going to keep this one due to it being so unusual?Thanks Davs - intention is to keep, but I'm wondering if I'll ever actually stump up the courage to ride it, or deal with the inevitible interest from 'plod' on every ride-out. Realisticlly I think it'll be sold at some point in the future - but it won't be cheap...my aim is to end up with a restored UK 750 K0, Early Sandcast (I have #820 waiting in the wings), a GL1000 and a modern bike. The rest will be sold...I've also stopped buying bikes now lol...
Post by: JamesH on March 01, 2022, 05:55:01 PM
Ha! - you're the second person to ask me that question and the answer is it's in the correct factory position. I the contrast of teh black cable against the white paint of the frame draws your eye to it - but it's the factory position..good spot though lol.Are you doing the polishing yourself James? that amount of polishing would take ages in my experience.Hi Ken. No - all the polishing is done by a pro; it’s grotty, dirty and skilled work beyond my skill set and resources. So I choose my battles lol..
Well whoever does it is damned good. I'm betting though it's not cheap.
Is the earth cable meant to be on the outside of the frame James, looks odd there, I'd have thought between the frame and the spacer would have been a better place.
Post by: JamesH on March 02, 2022, 11:22:29 AM
Rear shocks test fitted (lol).
Original bearings cut out of the swingarm and popped the phosphor bronze bushes in the freezer for an overnight cool.
Front forks assembled and just waiting for the top nuts and they can be filled with 10W fork oil and the front end assembly can proceed.
Rear brake plate also assembled with new shoes fitted.
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Post by: JamesH on March 07, 2022, 05:49:04 PM
Wheels have been rebuilt - going to the local shop tomorrow for a pair of new Continental RB2/K112 tyres, new Michelin tubes and rim tape - the Conti’s are my go-to tyre choice.
Swingarm is now fitted (forgot to photograph the new bushes and new ‘collar’). Such a nice feeling putting a new set of phosphor-bronze bushes in with a new Honda ‘collar’. Smooth as butter, zero play, and fitted nicely back into the frame and torqued up. Freshly greased that’s one less job to do.
Rear ‘bumper’ now fully fitted and top box fully secured. Need to make up a jump-lead for the earth feed from the box to the loom.
Front end is coming together - forks fitted with new Honda gaitors, along with the ‘repainted’ fork ears that were rejected first time round.
Oil tank has been cleaned internally, fully repainted externally. Fitted perfectly with the NOS Honda fuel lines.
Moving on to the front brake calliper and master cylinder next.
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Post by: philward on March 07, 2022, 07:44:19 PM
Post by: Spitfire on March 07, 2022, 08:10:09 PM
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: JamesH on March 08, 2022, 11:39:58 PM
Small progress this evening - the headlight bucket has now been fitted and had to convert the Honda indictors to a ‘2-wire’ setup to provide the earth they would normally get on a 750 via the stem.
Wheels had the new rubber fitted today and are ready to go back on the bike over the weekend (time permitting).
NOS HM341’s hanging ready for installation.
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Post by: Oddjob on March 09, 2022, 12:13:22 AM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 09, 2022, 06:49:45 AM
Don’t you ever get a stuck bolt James?
Or drop a tiny bit important bit on the floor?
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Post by: Johnny4428 on March 09, 2022, 07:38:48 AM
Post by: Oddjob on March 09, 2022, 05:09:30 PM
Post by: andy120t on March 09, 2022, 05:16:13 PM
Post by: Oddjob on March 09, 2022, 05:24:27 PM
What goes in the little box at the back? My guess is sandwiches?
An extremely small Japanese mechanic for when the bike breaks down or needs a service, unfortunately he died whilst in there and James hasn't been able to source a NOS one yet.
Post by: JamesH on March 09, 2022, 06:16:45 PM
What goes in the little box at the back? My guess is sandwiches?
An extremely small Japanese mechanic for when the bike breaks down or needs a service, unfortunately he died whilst in there and James hasn't been able to source a NOS one yet.
. I once worked on a project with Toyota, developing one of the last commercial IDI (indirect Diesel Injection engines) for production. I was responsible for the design of the pre-combustion chamber, the last iteration of the Ricardo ‘comet’ chamber design.The project team in Japan sent us a Fax, in response to my request for an EEPROM programmer to re-flash a new engine calibration onto the development ECU - and it literally had one line that I’ve never forgotten: “We are dispatching Inoue-San”.
My equivalent counterpart in Japan was called Mr Matsudo Inoue (hence Inoue-San) and based on the fax I was expecting him to arrive in a box shipped by DHL
. 2 days later he arrived at 9am promptly, spent 1hr reprogramming the ECU with the supplied calibration data-sheet, left us the EEPROM programmer unit so we could do it ourselves, and then buggered off back to Japan.
Possibly one of the most bizarre (but quite efficient) business exchanges I’ve had
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Post by: JamesH on March 11, 2022, 09:08:13 PM
Rear end is pretty much finished - I’ll probably need to sort a chain with an extra link (as it’s running a 48T rear sprocket), or I may just go for a 45T sprocket.
Just need to drill the rear fender and fit the rubber ‘fender extender’ and will re-focus attention on the front end.
The front fender is loosely fitted but I’m waiting for a few bits from CMSNL in Holland to arrive before I can fit the handlebars, front fender stays etc.
Fitted the NOS brake hoses, the upper hose being slightly longer to accommodate the police ‘high’ bars.
Oh and I had to 3D print a test piece for the missing (and NLA) siren actuator spring holder. Luckily CMSNL had a photo on the website that I was able to use as a general reference. After 3D printing the sample it dawned on me that the overall shape looked familiar. The small metal plate that comes mounted to the underside of most Honda CB front master cylinders is almost a perfect outline, so I’ll modify one of those for the final item. All good fun ha ha.
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Post by: Oddjob on March 11, 2022, 10:17:04 PM
Post by: JamesH on March 11, 2022, 10:23:56 PM
I presume that weird contraption on the swinging arm is for the siren? it reminds me of an old cycle dynamo we had to run lights back in the 60s.Yeah exactly that - cable driven siren attached to the friction drum (hand operated).
Post by: Lobo on March 12, 2022, 12:13:05 PM
Another similar restoration here - odd that he’s got the Wings backwards on the side covers? (tho’ not in every pic)
https://www.digitalpizza.com/1970-honda-cb750-police-special
This your bracket James…. at the bottom of the ‘shock?
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Post by: JamesH on March 12, 2022, 03:28:53 PM
Stunning / beautiful work!Thanks mate - yeah familiar with the ‘DigitalPizza’ bike. Had the same thoughts on the wings lol. And yes, that’s the same bracket - hadn’t spotted that before..I still think it would look nicer tucked away behind the shock so I may relocate later on.
Another similar restoration here - odd that he’s got the Wings backwards on the side covers? (tho’ not in every pic)
https://www.digitalpizza.com/1970-honda-cb750-police-special
This your bracket James…. at the bottom of the ‘shock?
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Post by: Laverda Dave on March 12, 2022, 07:34:46 PM
I bet that siren drive wore through the sidewall of the tyre quickly when in use.
Post by: JamesH on March 14, 2022, 08:38:12 PM
Amazing quality of work going on there JamesThanks Dave. Yeah I bet the sidewall took a hammering ha ha..
I bet that siren drive wore through the sidewall of the tyre quickly when in use.
Post by: JamesH on March 14, 2022, 08:40:42 PM
Exhausts fitted, rear crash guard hoops fitted, front fender stays fitted, rear fender extender fitted, front brake assembly fitted.
Also test fitted the front engine guards.
Rear siren roller drive retaining spring fitted. Will re-engineer the drive bracket at a later date once the bike is finished.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on March 14, 2022, 08:45:13 PM
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 14, 2022, 08:45:26 PM
Post by: Lobo on March 15, 2022, 11:06:51 AM
Honestly it seems a bit Heath-Robinson given the era, I’d have expected a power off-take from the engine …. eg the SOHC, or perhaps electrical + uprated ALT. Intriguing! (Tho’ it’s apparent a very high siren drive RPM was necessary given the massive ‘gearing’…. bet the top speed bled off pretty quickly 😂)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 15, 2022, 11:54:38 AM
Makes mine feel a tad Heath Robinson by comparison - never realised how good a white bike could look.
Post by: MrDavo on March 15, 2022, 04:33:29 PM
Lovely build as expected, most of us don't have a load of NOS parts stashed away for future use, especially a genuine exhaust set, or a Police speedo for that matter.
Post by: JamesH on March 16, 2022, 09:31:50 PM
With the words ‘Heath Robinson’ ringing in my ears, I had a spare hour over lunch so decided to mock-up a replacement for the siren drive to test-fit before committing the design to metal.
I’m lucky to have access to a ‘fablab’ in the studios where my business is now based, including an array of ‘Prusa’ 3D printers. I was trained how to use the printers last week, and this was a fairly ambitious ‘second print’ so I was fully expecting it to go ‘tits up’.
So working from the existing siren bracket and some ‘guesstimated’ dimensions from photos found online of the ‘correct’ 750 bracket (turns out mine is for a 500/4 police bike) I designed up the unit in 3D (using Fusion360) before exporting an STL file, ‘slicing’ it up in preparation for 3D printing, outputting the G-code and then 3D printing in PLA.
Having removed the support material, have to say I’m pretty chuffed with the result.
However, the rule of ‘measure twice, cut once’ applies here (well actually check your design twice, 3D print once lol).In my haste I managed to place the design for the return spring hole on the wrong side (realised after printing). So I’ve adjusted the design and set one to print overnight.
Will test fit tomorrow evening to see if it’s a better solution than the 500/4 ‘bent arm’ design, before manufacturing it.
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Post by: JamesH on March 16, 2022, 09:32:07 PM
With the words ‘Heath Robinson’ ringing in my ears, I had a spare hour over lunch so decided to mock-up a replacement arm for the siren roller-drive to test-fit before committing the design to metal.
I’m lucky to have access to a ‘fablab’ in the studios where my business is now based, including an array of ‘Prusa’ 3D printers. I was trained how to use the printers last week, and this was a fairly ambitious ‘second print’ so I was fully expecting it to go ‘tits up’.
So working from the existing siren bracket and some ‘guesstimated’ dimensions from photos found online of the ‘correct’ 750 bracket (turns out mine is for a 500/4 police bike) I designed up the unit in 3D (using Fusion360) before exporting an STL file, ‘slicing’ it up in preparation for 3D printing, outputting the G-code and then 3D printing in PLA.
There were actually 2 machines free at lunchtime, so I ‘hedged my bets’ and set off two of the machines printing (one in black PLA and one in Grey PLA). That’s why the ‘finished’ part is black - that was one of the two prints..both successful (apart from the design cock-up - see below).
Having removed the support material, have to say I’m pretty chuffed with the result.
However, the rule of ‘measure twice, cut once’ applies here (well actually check your design twice, 3D print once lol).In my haste I managed to place the design for the return spring hole on the wrong side (realised after printing). So I’ve adjusted the design and set one to print overnight.
Will test fit tomorrow evening to see if it’s a better solution than the 500/4 ‘bent arm’ design, before manufacturing it.
Dismantled 500/4 ‘bent arm’ unit:
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Reference photo of correct 750 unit..
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Designed up in Fusion360 (note the wrong spring hole position ha ha)
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Mid-way through the print:
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The printed part - even the M8 x 1.25 thread was a decent fit for the nut.
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The ‘printed’ prototype, with the original roller test-fitted/assembled:
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The ‘revised’ arm design, with correct spring hole position (still can’t believe I missed it first time ha ha).
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 16, 2022, 10:37:04 PM
Looking good.
Post by: JamesH on March 16, 2022, 10:39:16 PM
Had to Google quite a few terms in that James but think I get the idea. Before that I thought that PLA was Peoples Liberation Army ;DHa ha you just solved a mystery for me Ash - I posted the above up on Facebook and the post was automatically removed from the Facebook group I posted it in. I guess the PLA auto-censor must have kicked-in..
Looking good.
Post by: JamesH on March 18, 2022, 12:55:28 PM
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Post by: Laverda Dave on March 18, 2022, 01:34:44 PM
Amazed who you are progressing with this build so quickly, I have spent the morning building the Triton and all I have managed to do is remove the rear engine plate and fit a Morgo oil filter although the oil lines are still to fit!
Post by: JamesH on March 18, 2022, 01:36:08 PM
Fantastic Job James. I admire people who can use the modern tech to make parts, I've just progressed to making cardboard templates!I find sleep is over-rated Dave ha ha.
Amazed who you are progressing with this build so quickly, I have spent the morning building the Triton and all I have managed to do is remove the rear engine plate and fit a Morgo oil filter although the oil lines are still to fit!
Post by: JamesH on March 18, 2022, 10:15:22 PM
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Post by: JamesH on March 18, 2022, 10:15:30 PM
Siren test fitted and patrol lights fitted and wired. I’ve decided to run a red/blue patrol light setup for now (as opposed to the double red US setup). Not sure if this will stay this way, but is fine for now.
Master cylinder refurbished and fitted. Both controls have been refurbished - can’t fit the Lh switch until the clutch perch and siren lever perch come back from straightening and polishing.
Hit a snag with the tank paintwork - so that will be a couple of weeks away at least. What is it always the paintwork lol..
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Post by: Oddjob on March 18, 2022, 11:00:38 PM
Post by: JamesH on March 18, 2022, 11:05:05 PM
I can't see Mr Plod being happy with the blue light, for some reason they seem to think they own that colour on vehicles.I think you’re probably right Ken - I’ll ask a mate of mine for some advise (he’s a serving road traffic cop). Sadly I probably know the answer…
Post by: Oddjob on March 19, 2022, 05:44:16 AM
Post by: andy120t on March 19, 2022, 07:15:39 AM
At 84 pounds it might be cheaper to buy one from James when finished!
Post by: royhall on March 19, 2022, 07:52:21 AM
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Post by: sye on March 19, 2022, 08:09:47 AM
Your correct about the blue light. Your not legally allowed to have any blue light on a roadworthy vehicle. Even the cruisers with blue LED's under the car get booked. Maybe don't wire it up.
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Wired or not, you will get booked for having a blue light fitted when driven on the road.
Post by: Trigger on March 19, 2022, 08:29:47 AM
I can't see Mr Plod being happy with the blue light, for some reason they seem to think they own that colour on vehicles.I think you’re probably right Ken - I’ll ask a mate of mine for some advise (he’s a serving road traffic cop). Sadly I probably know the answer…
Just put a KC smiley cover over the blue light when on the road ;)
Post by: JamesH on March 19, 2022, 09:21:59 AM
That’s exactly what I was thinking lolI can't see Mr Plod being happy with the blue light, for some reason they seem to think they own that colour on vehicles.I think you’re probably right Ken - I’ll ask a mate of mine for some advise (he’s a serving road traffic cop). Sadly I probably know the answer…
Just put a KC smiley cover over the blue light when on the road ;)
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 19, 2022, 11:58:10 AM
I can't see Mr Plod being happy with the blue light, for some reason they seem to think they own that colour on vehicles.I think you’re probably right Ken - I’ll ask a mate of mine for some advise (he’s a serving road traffic cop). Sadly I probably know the answer…
You are okay with a blue light until you switch it on - until then it's not really a light!
From my memory the legislation that covers emergency vehicles takes about a lamp emitting a blue light being restricted by the colour the lamp shines.
Post by: Bryanj on March 19, 2022, 06:50:18 PM
Post by: sye on March 19, 2022, 08:19:09 PM
"Only emergency vehicles can be fitted with blue flashing lights, or anything that looks like a blue flashing light, whether working or not."
Post by: Moorey on March 19, 2022, 08:21:52 PM
This is the gov response to the petition.
Blue warning beacons are intended to provide emergency vehicles with a means to inform other traffic of their presence and to assist in their safe progress through the traffic when responding to an incident. Whether or not switched on, they help to identify vehicles that are being operated by the emergency services and so the general public can have confidence they are dealing with a genuine representative of the service.
The wider use of these lights will eventually undermine the benefit they provide to legitimate users, hindering their ability to respond to an emergency and potentially endangering the safety of the public. Deliberate misuse of blue beacons to give the impression a vehicle is being operated by the emergency services could also increase if strict controls on their fitment are not in place.
We do not expect genuine owners of preserved emergency vehicles to abuse blue lights fitted to their vehicles. One solution would be to permit covered blue beacons, although this could potentially increase the misuse by non-emergency services. A change to the regulations must also be enforceable and in many cases it will be difficult to determine whether or not a vehicle is a genuine preserved vehicle or has been modified to deliberately deceive.
There is no simple, quick fix, of the regulations that avoids our concerns over misuse. The current regulations permit preserved emergency vehicles to be used with blue lights at shows provided they are removed before the vehicles are driven on the public roads and so we do not intend to change the regulations at this time. We will however explore with representatives of the police and other interested organisations whether there is an acceptable solution that can be considered for future implementation.
Post by: Moorey on March 19, 2022, 08:29:20 PM
Strictly speaking the red light is illegal as well.
Use a Vehicle on a Road Capable of Showing a Red Light of the Front
CJS Offence Code: RL89001
Offence Wording: Use a Vehicle on a Road Capable of Showing a Red Light of the Front
Contrary to regulation 11(1) of the Road Vehicles Lighting Regulations 1989, section 42 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 and Schedule 2 of the Road Traffic Offenders Act 1988.
This offence carries a fine of £50 and no penalty points.
Post by: Oddjob on March 19, 2022, 08:57:03 PM
Post by: sye on March 19, 2022, 09:05:49 PM
Post by: Moorey on March 20, 2022, 04:09:45 PM
Personally I would ride it as it is and take my chances. It would take some special type of twat to give you a ticket, but they are out
there.
Post by: royhall on March 20, 2022, 06:48:52 PM
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Post by: JamesH on March 28, 2022, 09:42:50 PM
Progress on the Police bike has been sporadic and slow, whilst I’m waiting for a few bits to come together..you guessed it, the bloody paintwork. Why is it ALWAYS the sodding paintwork that holds up these projects
.Anyway, have got the front end finished now, and carbs fitted and we have a running bike. She settles down into a nice smooth, quiet tickover - so I’m bloody chuffed.
The headlight ‘nacelle’ was a bit of a challenge to get a headlight rim to fit smoothly, but managed to get there in the end.
I’ve also wired up the patrol lights to a flasher unit I found in the US - yes, they’ll be disconnected for road use but if I ever show the bike it’s a nice little ‘show trick’.
I’ve also been at the 3D design/printing to mock-up the missing bracket that guides the siren cables to the rear drive bracket/roller. It’s amazing what you can conjure up from a couple of photos from the internet
. Had to redesign the first effort and ‘thicken’ it slightly; second time lucky. Have been in touch with Venhill who have agreed to manufacture a clutch cable in grey to my specification - the one I bought from CMSNL two years ago was about 16” too short..def a spec savers job there lol..
So will be a quiet couple of weeks whilst I wait for the paintwork to get sorted, then I can button this one up and go out for a spin / get arrested by the local plod for ‘flashing’ :-).
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Post by: Laverdaroo on March 29, 2022, 07:12:30 PM
Top work mate, stunner. ;)
Post by: Nurse Julie on March 29, 2022, 07:35:46 PM
Post by: JamesH on March 30, 2022, 08:11:52 PM
Simply incredible James, well done mate. That is by far one of the coolest 750's I've ever seen. And thats without it's clothes on, cant wait to see it with the tank etc! :oMany thanks mate - really appreciate it.
Top work mate, stunner. ;)
It will forever be know to me as the Brighton Flasher 😂😂😂I have no idea what you're implying Julie :-)
Post by: Jan B on April 02, 2022, 09:03:11 PM
You really nail this restoration!!
Post by: JamesH on April 06, 2022, 01:01:31 AM
Just landed here tonight and read the whole thread in one go. Absolutely amazing shed you have ;) And a really nice bike.Many thanks Jan - much appreciated.
You really nail this restoration!!
Post by: JamesH on April 06, 2022, 01:08:40 AM
Anyway, airbox is now fitted, carbs synchronised and she runs really nicely.
Have finished the siren installation; the proof of concept 3D printed roller drive bracket was a great guide for my local welder who modified the 500/4 bracket to match my design.
Correct length clutch cable sourced and fitted.
Revised design for the 3D printed siren cable clip fitted - I’ll need to make a final design change to this but it’ll do the job for now.
I also managed to source a ‘low profile’ blue patrol light to match the red unit I had with the ‘clear’ lens. So I’ll fit these reflectors to the bike tomorrow at some point.
Also fitted and aligned the NOS seat and very please with how she’s looking. The paintwork will be the icing on the cake once ready.
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Post by: Laverda Dave on April 06, 2022, 09:19:35 AM
Please post a video of the completed bike if you can with the siren engaged and the lights flashing, it will be the icing on the cake for something so rare and I have never seen anything like this before.
Post by: royhall on April 06, 2022, 09:46:01 AM
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Post by: Lobo on April 06, 2022, 12:13:05 PM
‘Concerned’ 😂 at the RPM at 80mph of the siren drive cable. On the assumption of no spindle gearbox at the rear-wheel off-take, and using a wheel diameter of 56cm and the spindle dia @ 4cm….. I reckon the cable would be spinning at 17000RPM.
Imagine that coming loose flailing about your right knee and ankle …. or worse snaking towards the family jewels as you pursue Jonny Burglar 😱.
By contrast, at 80mph the speedo cable is spinning @ 3500RPM, and the Rev Counter cable abouts 2400RPM.
Maybe don’t try it James … certainly keep the cable well lubed!
Happy to stand corrected… I hope I’m wrong!
Post by: JamesH on April 06, 2022, 06:07:59 PM
Picked up the fuel tank and managed to grab a couple of hours at lunchtime to work in the ‘clean room’ (aka the dining room table) to apply the decals to the tank.
This is the job I’ve been most dreading on this project, as I’ve never (successfully) attempted decals with this level of compound curvature.
Procedure was to very lightly wet-sand the base coat on the tank with 1500 wet/dry, to give a good adhesion bed for the decals.
The decals are best applied ‘wet’ with a spray bottle with a small amount of washing up liquid, which gives time to position the decals before pressing them down with the squeegee. Patience is the key here as the decals come in 2 parts and need to ‘line up’ in two locations but with two pairs of pinstripes.
Anyway, 2 hours later and it’s done - it wasn’t straightforward but I stuck with it and it’s pretty much spot on.
Back to the painters tomorrow for 2K clear and I’ll be ready to fit and wrap this project up…
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Post by: Spitfire on April 06, 2022, 06:50:15 PM
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on April 06, 2022, 07:24:00 PM
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Post by: JamesH on April 06, 2022, 07:47:02 PM
James, you amaze me. There’s no way I’d have the patience for that.Trust me Steve - I visualised throwing the tank through the patio door windows at least twice in my head, before calming myself down and saying it's ok, it's ok, you're not a total c*nt James.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on April 06, 2022, 07:51:15 PM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on April 06, 2022, 08:07:25 PM
I know, it’s only Wednesday…
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Post by: Laverdaroo on April 06, 2022, 08:14:55 PM
Post by: JamesH on April 06, 2022, 08:39:03 PM
Current thinking is to recess an M10 washer within a recessed pocket and use an M10x25 washer under the nut to transmit the load. I’m sure there’s a better way but the beer is flowing ha ha..
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Post by: philward on April 06, 2022, 09:51:29 PM
Post by: JamesH on April 14, 2022, 11:50:21 PM
Finishing touches applied to the bike this evening, after receiving the tank and side covers back from my painters.
In the past couple of weeks I’ve swapped out the patrol light lens’ for the earlier ‘clear’ style - personally I prefer the look of these.
Very pleased with how she’s come together over the past 14 weeks. It’s been a long haul since buying her back in 2018, but I guess good things come to those who wait.
Family ‘staycation’ means she’s going to stay put for a couple of weeks before I can do some shakedown tests. But it’s been worth all the hours and effort that’s gone into saving her.
Thanks for the comments and feedback along the way, it’s been greatly appreciated.
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 15, 2022, 04:11:07 AM
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on April 15, 2022, 08:04:40 AM
I'm sure you have a production line staffed by skillful engineering gnomes out of shot of your images.
Post by: Laverda Dave on April 15, 2022, 08:12:55 AM
Personally, I think you should take it out today and take control of the bank holiday traffic around the M25!
Post by: Spitfire on April 15, 2022, 10:20:20 AM
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: Oddjob on April 15, 2022, 02:26:29 PM
You've annoyed Deltarider though, he hates polished stuff that wasn't polished before, and chrome for that matter. Personally I really do like that, it's so unique it just appeals to me and your attention to detail is superb. For me that's what makes a build, get the little details right and it makes the final result so much better. You must have been collecting parts for this build for years, no way you could do that in 14 weeks without a vast store of acquired parts, sometimes takes 8-10 weeks to get a part from Japan.
I'd say you've got to keep that one, you can buy another K0 quite easily but finding another like that would be extremely difficult. If DS comes sniffing for his museum tell him to take a hike ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Bryanj on April 15, 2022, 02:48:26 PM
Post by: JamesH on April 15, 2022, 02:58:56 PM
I’ve got a difficult decision to make. I think I’ve come to the realisation that I’m more of a serial restorer than a rider - and that’s a hard admission to make and say out loud. It may well be time to flip that dynamic on the head and focus a bit more time on riding / enjoying the bikes.
I’ve stopped buying bikes, but I still have several waiting in the wings to be restored or already partially in ‘progress’ - in particular a trio of dismantled UK 750 K0’s (from the second batch) that I’ve had for several years (one of each colour)..and they’re up next for the next build slots.
It’s difficult to justify having so much investment ‘tied up’ in a single bike and putting my cards on the table- I’ve just been made a very significant offer for the bike (unsolicited) which could be a bit of a game changer for me.
I said at the start of the year I need to get the bike collection down significantly (not least, storage is a big issue) and focus on some other projects that I’ve been putting off at home, so much as it pains me the Police bike may well go.
There’s also the small matter of the ‘attention draw’ this bike is going to yield when riding it - I’m a bit of a ‘show off’ at the best of times, but I’m still not sure I’m ready to be seen in public ridding this bike lol..
Anyway, time will tell - I don’t actually need to sell any of them, and I’m just extremely fortunate to have had the opportunity and pleasure to work on restoring such an iconic bike.
I’ll keep you all posted - and will start new threads for the next restorations as they begin..
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 20, 2022, 12:50:49 AM
Post by: Oddjob on April 20, 2022, 03:22:32 PM
If you think of doing that I'd stipulate that in the event the museum closes etc you are given first choice to buy it back at the same price as he paid you for it. Or rent it to him for display. I reckon DS would try and sell it later using some excuse of other, he's driven by the need to make money IMO.
It should be appreciated for what it is, a unique bike with a unique story.
Post by: JamesH on April 27, 2022, 12:49:17 PM
Many thanks for the feedback, compliments and opinions on what to do. Ultimately the bike needs to be seen / used, and on reflection I’m the wrong custodian to do the bike justice in that respect.
I’m about to start with the rebuild of my two UK K0’s (AYO 63H and AYO 64H) so will start a new thread on those very soon..
James
Post by: Laverda Dave on April 27, 2022, 01:13:13 PM
Im looking forward to the KO builds :)
Post by: Trigger on April 27, 2022, 01:13:54 PM
Post by: JamesH on April 27, 2022, 01:15:47 PM
That is a shame James. You could of done a village people ride at Brighton gay weekend :o
now now Graham. The thought did cross my mind. At least the top of the saddle was black rather than white, so I could have got away with wearing my assless chaps. Oh well, one for the future now I guess.
Post by: royhall on April 27, 2022, 01:23:38 PM
That is a shame James. You could of done a village people ride at Brighton gay weekend :o
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Post by: Kev B on November 10, 2022, 10:46:35 AM
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‘Slowing down’ for the plod - that made ma laugh Dave
I saw a good one the other day, Officer says why were you doing 60 in a 30mph zone, I was slowing down for the roundabout.