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Title: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on February 21, 2022, 11:41:18 AM
Well now I have some room in the garage after selling a couple of the bikes so been on the lookout for another project.
I came across this (thanks again Graham) and picked it up yesterday.
Bike is 95% complete missing bits are the main stand, top half of the chain guard and exhausts.
If anyone has any of these and are willing to part with them please give me a shout.
Can't believe how small it is even compared to the 400/4 ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: philward on February 21, 2022, 12:26:26 PM
Great project Paul - always fancied a Honda twin or single from that era as a project but the prices have gone through the roof (when you take the cost of the parts as well).
Good luck with the rebuild - I'm sure you will enjoy it
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: Trigger on February 21, 2022, 01:36:19 PM
That will keep you busy for a while  ;)
These are great bikes and bomb down the road very well. Engine is easy and cheap to do, no hunting for shells on these old girls.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: BigAl (Alan) on February 21, 2022, 05:02:37 PM
Good luck with the build, I enjoyed doing mine in 2015. Never did find (or could not afford) the OE sloper exhaust's & main stand
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: flatfour on February 21, 2022, 05:24:41 PM
I had one of those in 1970 as my first bike, same colour too!

Mine was, from memory registered RUY439F.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on February 21, 2022, 05:54:27 PM
Nice find will keep you busy  Paul.
I got my 1st one in the same colour (Black Metallic / Lava Grey code XE) in 1972... great bike ..OKH 531F

My current one is Neptune Blue metallic and was one of the two Honda UK press bikes and was reviewed in MotorCycle magazine in 1967 OLA 4E  (see link)... OLA 5E was the other Press bike pictured outside the Chelsea Drug Store (K2-K6 found the pic of OLA 5E.

Sloper 1967 magazine reviews:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pmj1fju95l8xbtj/CD175%20Sloper%20Reviews.pdf?dl=0

Here is mine 'as found' looking well worn and sporting tatty Honda CB92 silencers. it's gonna be like Triggers Broom when finished as most cycle parts are NOS (exhausts, wheels, seat tank,guards etc but correct numbers though).

Rare parts you have are the rubber air chamber, grab-rail and bottom chain-guard as it's the bottom half that is usually missing.



Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 04, 2022, 09:35:14 AM
Pics for you Paul of a my NOS sloper ----230---  centre stand.

Paul is looking for one or one similar to modify.

Message for Sesman ... Lemon is waaaay past it's sell-by-date. The bar-maid in the pub gave it to Cathy to lighten her hair with but it's been left rejected and forlorn  ;D

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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 04, 2022, 10:02:49 AM
Probably not an issue to you Paul but I don't think your side stand is correct. It was pressed steel, not tubular.
I think the C92 one was similar .. I have both so I will check later.

You can just make it out in this original period advert  :)

Note also the black painted grab rail .. although they were later chromed.
The bike in that advert is the actual one I own !!


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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 04, 2022, 10:30:09 AM
Sorry .. but C92 is longer than CD175A sloper ..probably had 17" wheels not 16"


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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on March 22, 2022, 12:21:36 PM
Tare down started  :D hopefully get the frame etc off to be stripped next week.
Still looking for the missing bits if anyone has them and are willing to part with them.
Also looking for the top left fork cover (ear).
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: Johnny4428 on March 22, 2022, 01:36:43 PM
That frame and swing arm just crying out for a shot blast and a new coat.🤣 always good to see progress, tear down can actually be quite interesting. Especially if there has been a numpty there before.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: Arch stanton on March 22, 2022, 07:45:51 PM
Hello.
I recommissioned my Sloper last weekend, after being stored for a couple of years.
What a great fun bike to ride. Really gets a move on when in top gear.
Great little bike that just revs & revs.
Sean.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on March 30, 2022, 09:22:00 AM
Bit more progress.
The engine strip down has been started top end looking quite good apart from the cam chain tensioner was shot the chain had started to wear into the metal and most of the rubber wheel was missing  :o
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on March 30, 2022, 09:23:43 AM
The oil filter was an absolute nightmare to get off >:(
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on March 30, 2022, 09:24:52 AM
All the chrome parts going off this evening to Prestige  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on March 30, 2022, 03:44:20 PM
Out of interest wat sort of budget have you set on restoring the bike?
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: Oddjob on March 30, 2022, 03:54:51 PM
Personally Paul I think your asking for miracles with the rims and the front pipes, the pitting seems far too deep for a decent result IMO. Rims might be cheaper getting replaced. Same for headers but I suppose that depends if they are still available.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on March 30, 2022, 09:18:06 PM
Personally Paul I think your asking for miracles with the rims and the front pipes, the pitting seems far too deep for a decent result IMO. Rims might be cheaper getting replaced. Same for headers but I suppose that depends if they are still available.
So do I but if you don’t ask you won’t know. And it’s only one rim and one down pipe which is bad. I do have another rim lined up but they are hens teeth.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: Oddjob on March 30, 2022, 09:20:22 PM
None at DS?

BTW what's the part number for the main stand your after. I'll have a look around for you. I have a habit of finding really hard to find pieces.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on March 31, 2022, 12:23:45 AM
None at DS?

BTW what's the part number for the main stand your after. I'll have a look around for you. I have a habit of finding really hard to find pieces.

Its 50500-230-030B  Actually a CD125 part.
I know 'cos I had to find two NOS ones for my own bikes...pretty hens teeth rare even used..pic in an earlier reply. SS125 and CL125 sadly different as they have 17" rims
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 01, 2022, 01:01:53 PM
Pic of rim for Paul.... as I can't suss how to put a pic in a PM .. even though I am sure JamesH manages it  :-[

Chrome not bad but the usual marks from USA tyre removers  >:( ......  It's an OEM KAGA one  Free if you want it

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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on April 01, 2022, 01:22:58 PM
Thanks Ash, I have just spoken to Diane so she is expecting it  ;D

Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on April 19, 2022, 09:55:36 AM
Good job the wife is understanding  ;D ;D
Casings all painted and looking good.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on April 19, 2022, 09:57:03 AM
All the BZP plating back  8).
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: K2-K6 on April 19, 2022, 10:07:35 AM
Some very smart work there, exciting as you get further through a project and it's coming together gradually the finished outweighs the non.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 19, 2022, 10:37:01 AM
As far as I know crankcases were never painted originally on the sloper model. Later Honda twins like CB250K and CB450 had painted upper crankcase half but bottom was unpainted. My 1967 Honda press bike sloper was definitely unpainted.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on April 19, 2022, 10:48:59 AM
As far as I know crankcases were never painted originally on the sloper model. Later Honda twins like CB250K and CB450 had painted upper crankcase half but bottom was unpainted. My 1967 Honda press bike sloper was definitely unpainted.
These were Ash and the clutch and filter casings.
I am just going to polish those though.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: Oddjob on April 19, 2022, 02:33:29 PM
Coming on Paul. Starting to take shape as well.

Pssh, don't mention polishing stuff to Ash  ;D ;D ;D

Weird how we can all look at something and see something different, the lower crankcase is looking bob on as we'd say but as soon as I saw it I was thinking, I'd have to remove all those little blobs of casting alloy that Honda just left there but that's just me, how Honda for instance could paint one half and leave the other bare is beyond me. Looks miles better painted IMO.

Looking forward to seeing this one come back to life.

How did the chroming turn out BTW? and was the BZP done by the Sheffield people who's name I can't recall right now. Was thinking of using them before I bought the Gateros kit.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on April 20, 2022, 07:44:36 AM
Coming on Paul. Starting to take shape as well.

Pssh, don't mention polishing stuff to Ash  ;D ;D ;D

Weird how we can all look at something and see something different, the lower crankcase is looking bob on as we'd say but as soon as I saw it I was thinking, I'd have to remove all those little blobs of casting alloy that Honda just left there but that's just me, how Honda for instance could paint one half and leave the other bare is beyond me. Looks miles better painted IMO.

Looking forward to seeing this one come back to life.

How did the chroming turn out BTW? and was the BZP done by the Sheffield people who's name I can't recall right now. Was thinking of using them before I bought the Gateros kit.
It is tempting to remove the flashing on the castings but that is how Honda left it so it stays.
John street platers in Sheffield Ken, great job and quick three days from dropping of to collecting.
I send the wife now as she has a chat with them, I can only just manage to get there and back in my lunch time.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 20, 2022, 09:47:38 AM
Interesting build not sure I remember the word Sloper so I guess it's quite an old model, I remeber the Benly 125 Super Sport plus the Dream of which I had the two variants.
Looking on Wiki the Sloper was only built for 2 years so parts must be hard to source.
Be great to see the finished item.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: AshimotoK0 on April 20, 2022, 11:05:52 AM
Interesting build not sure I remember the word Sloper so I guess it's quite an old model, I remeber the Benly 125 Super Sport plus the Dream of which I had the two variants.
Looking on Wiki the Sloper was only built for 2 years so parts must be hard to source.
Be great to see the finished item.

a lot of die-hard CD175A and CD125 restorers hate the reference 'sloper' they reckon it's a term applied to an old Brit bike ..was is a Panther or something.

It's generally a means of distinguishing between the early 1967-1969 bikes from the later ones with non-inclined from vertical engine

My Press bike has been a really labour of love .. I bought it in bits from the estate of a guy who found it and partially restored it  and amassed loads of NOS parts for it.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: Bryanj on April 20, 2022, 11:45:32 AM
Yes the "Sloper" was the big singlel Panther, usualy with a sidecar and they reckon it fired every other lampost,
Rare even when i started in early 70's only seen one at NMM and in pics
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175 SLOPER
Post by: paul G on May 03, 2022, 01:43:49 PM
Engine rebuild coming along nicely, barrels and head back on and cam timing done before fitting the soft link.
Weather warming up so hopefully get the frame and other bits into primer stage.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Bryanj on May 03, 2022, 02:19:08 PM
The later 175 and the K series 250/350 had a habit of shattering piston rings if driven hard from cold, repaired a lot back in the 70's
Fine if you let them warm before riding
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 27, 2022, 08:16:08 AM
Got a surprise call from the platers on Wednesday saying my parts were ready, wasn't expecting them for a few weeks yet.
Picked them up last night and got to say what a fantastic job Prestige have done yet again.
Just unpacked the big bits to show there work as some of this stuff was in a bad way as you can see prom a previous post.
Thanks again Diane  8) 8).
Must find more time to get on with the project now.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on May 27, 2022, 10:26:51 AM
Nice looking work indeed Paul. Great to see these original parts refurbished.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on May 27, 2022, 11:39:20 AM
Lovely result on the chroming, really nice job done by Prestige.

Did they give you a breakdown of the cost of each part or just a lump sum.

I'd love to know the cost of having the handlebars done for instance. Mine are slightly better than yours were rust wise so I'd like to see if the cost of chroming them is comparable to my chroming company.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 27, 2022, 11:52:16 AM
Lovely result on the chroming, really nice job done by Prestige.

Did they give you a breakdown of the cost of each part or just a lump sum.

I'd love to know the cost of having the handlebars done for instance. Mine are slightly better than yours were rust wise so I'd like to see if the cost of chroming them is comparable to my chroming company.
Individual prices but I would need to go and look at the invoice for the price.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on May 27, 2022, 02:22:53 PM
Still a long turn round time though Paul?
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 27, 2022, 02:52:36 PM
Still a long turn round time though Paul?
You have to wait for the best.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on May 27, 2022, 03:39:44 PM
Tru Dat
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 30, 2022, 08:34:07 AM
Engine re-build finished onto the next job.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Nurse Julie on May 30, 2022, 08:47:36 AM
Looking good Paul.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on June 06, 2022, 09:33:34 AM
Managed to get the frame prepared treated and primed.
Got stopper in all the old marks after the pictures so ready for another rub down an primer then top coat.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on October 31, 2022, 12:43:26 PM
Managed to get a few more jobs done after a bit of a health scare.
Seat done just need to clean the trim up and fit is.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on October 31, 2022, 12:47:56 PM
Frame painted and lacquered and engine back in the frame.
Shock absorber tool made, and shocks stripped.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Sesman on October 31, 2022, 12:51:46 PM
Now that’s looking really nice.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 31, 2022, 01:03:14 PM
Epic build, looking absolutely great so far. Top skills and love the frame colour, and thats not a 'Ted poke'. :)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 31, 2022, 01:17:18 PM
Looking good Paul.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on October 31, 2022, 02:55:22 PM
Shiney!! Great work.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: heli_madken on October 31, 2022, 11:16:23 PM
Now that is absolutely beautiful
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverda Dave on November 01, 2022, 08:03:13 AM
Great work Paul. Considering what you started with its starting to look epic👍
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on November 01, 2022, 08:19:46 AM
Shaping up to be a nice resto! Nice work.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 04, 2022, 11:48:07 AM
Few more bits tagged on. Rear footrests, rear torque arm, Sprocket cover, air box, plug caps, fork stantions (just to get them out of my way) wiring loom all cleaned up and fitted.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 11:53:00 AM
Nice! ;) :)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 04, 2022, 12:56:00 PM
Love the frame colour - not boring black😁😁😁
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on November 04, 2022, 01:04:01 PM
No, that's a decent colour Ted, not a crappy brown affair  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 04, 2022, 01:06:52 PM
I still think Nut Brown would have been a great colour - now I will never know.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 04, 2022, 01:18:14 PM
I still think Nut Brown would have been a great colour - now I will never know.
Great and nut brown should not be used in the same sentence  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 04, 2022, 02:01:19 PM
I still think Nut Brown would have been a great colour - now I will never know.


PHEW, thats a relief ;D ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on November 04, 2022, 08:05:27 PM
I still think Nut Brown would have been a great colour - now I will never know.
Great and nut brown should not be used in the same sentence  ;)

Whereas nut and brown quite appropriately go together! 😜😜🤭🫢
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on November 05, 2022, 12:38:23 AM
 ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 22, 2022, 07:55:26 AM
Parts painted fork ears, lower fork shrouds and rear shock covers  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 22, 2022, 08:01:43 AM
Absolutely delighted at how these have turned out  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 22, 2022, 08:32:11 AM
That's looking very nice Paul - brilliant job on the dampers.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on November 22, 2022, 12:57:01 PM
New chrome shrouds Paul or replated?. If the latter they've done a superb job as they were bloody far gone and really pitted. I'd imagine Prestige if that's the case.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 22, 2022, 02:26:56 PM
New chrome shrouds Paul or replated?. If the latter they've done a superb job as they were bloody far gone and really pitted. I'd imagine Prestige if that's the case.

Re chromed and she turned them around very very quickly  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on November 22, 2022, 02:34:24 PM
That is quite the transformation great job!
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 24, 2022, 08:06:47 AM
Managed to get the front end rebuilt last evening.
Now onto the wheels  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverda Dave on November 24, 2022, 10:02:59 AM
Looking really good Paul. Very nice work👍
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Trigger on November 24, 2022, 10:21:30 AM
What's the rush Paul. The sun won't be out for another 4-5 months  :o
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 24, 2022, 11:32:48 AM
What's the rush Paul. The sun won't be out for another 4-5 months  :o
4-5 months have you ever tried to find an exhaust for one of these  ;) more like 4-5 years.
Ash might get fed up with his and sell them to me ;D ;D ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on November 28, 2022, 12:50:17 PM
Front wheel laced and trued  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on November 28, 2022, 10:07:06 PM
Very satisfying job done. Good work.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 28, 2022, 10:29:48 PM
Looks a neat wheel building rig.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 28, 2022, 12:19:15 AM
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/382282914039779/
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on December 29, 2022, 08:58:07 AM
Confused a bit about that Ash, says £350 at the top of page but probably price at the bottom of ad more realistic.
Either way for one exhaust! 😡
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverda Dave on December 29, 2022, 10:29:44 AM
£350!!! Ouch.
I have just had to buy a new lower dash mount for the Viffer. It has the moulded printed circuit attached for the LCD, rev counter, Speedo and idiot lights. The original had started to corrode internally knocking out the LCD. That was £350 new, Honda spares are not cheap for any bike of any age:(
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: royhall on December 29, 2022, 12:01:40 PM
Yep, £1160 for a replacement fuel tank for a CB1300SA. Luckily Isle of Man Steam Packet Co. paid for it.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 29, 2022, 12:29:49 PM
Makes the cost of a replacement battery for a Hybrid Merc look cheap at £15k when they fail the car is effectively scrap if out of warranty.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on December 29, 2022, 01:12:05 PM
Makes the cost of a replacement battery for a Hybrid Merc look cheap at £15k when they fail the car is effectively scrap if out of warranty.

Go Green! 🥵🥵
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on December 29, 2022, 02:05:16 PM
Yep, £1160 for a replacement fuel tank for a CB1300SA. Luckily Isle of Man Steam Packet Co. paid for it.

I've got 2 spare tanks off that bike.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: royhall on December 29, 2022, 03:32:17 PM
Steam Packet caused the bike and a few others to crash over on the ferry so they paid for it. I could have had it repaired but why should I.

Sent from my Pixel 7 Pro using Tapatalk

Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 29, 2022, 08:44:00 PM
£350!!! Ouch.


I sold about 5 of those sloper exhausts about 2 years ago for £325 individually and £700 for a pair .. they were all gone within hours of listing.  People were then messaging me to say they had missed out and if I could get any more, they would be prepared to give me more money for them. CB250/350K exhausts genuine NOS now sell for upwards of £400 / side ... a few years back they would have been £100. NOS CB92 Benly silencers go for £1k plus for a pair and likewise CB72/77 ones.

I did alright on the DS stand at Stafford in October though. I tried haggling with DS's mate on his bargain basement area for a few low value items but the guy was adamant 'David says the price on the label is what everything on here needs to go for .. absolutely no offers'. So I paid the full price but then I found an absolutely rare SS125A exhaust, which turned out to be NOS with a tatty old £5 label on it and argued back that the ticket price must be the correct price. The guy questioned it and went off to ask DS but he was busy kerchinging his till, so the guy  asked one of the other sales guys who amazingly agreed to my £5 offer. So a £300 + NOS exhaust for a fiver ... result in my book.

When you think about it a few members here agree that a £2k for a NOS set of CB500/ pipes is realistic ....so £350 x 4 = £1,400 for the same number of sloper exhausts sounds reasonably good value indeed  in that context. A lot of chromers (e.g. Agbrigg) charge £350 to rechrome a single silencer.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 03, 2023, 08:13:44 AM
Well the bike is back on its wheels and progressing ;D
I did purchase the exhaust thanks Ash.
These things are like hens teeth, he does have a pair of NOS new ones but can't make his mind up if he wants to sell them as he does have a sloper as well.
He has promised to let me have the first option on them if he does sell them.
Not done much as both me and the wife have had this dreaded bug that is going around (didn't even have a Christmas lunch (the wife says it's worse than covid  :o she is still off, I'm back at work.
Happy new year everyone.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on January 03, 2023, 08:17:27 AM
Looks like a nice job Paul! Exciting times!
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 03, 2023, 02:57:53 PM
It's looking good Paul can't wait to see what colour the tank & side panels will be I'm guessing Grey/Silver but secretly wishing for something more bling. ;) ;) ;)

In all seriousness I like the original tank colours do the side panels need some contrast perhaps - no Ted they do not?
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on January 03, 2023, 03:05:58 PM
Not a big fan of these old Hondas but that's starting to look very nice Paul, like the colour.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 03, 2023, 07:45:24 PM

I did purchase the exhaust thanks Ash.


Nice one ..hoped you would Paul  ;). Honda NOS exhaust are better than money in the bank. Quite a few of my old Hondas I bought the exhausts NOS before actually buying the bike they fit.

The colour is 'Black Metallic' code XE, the same as my JDM CB250 'Dream'. It's actually more like a gunmetal grey. RS Bikepaints didn't have that paint so I 'loaned' them a NOS fork ear to match it too, which they lost  >:(  their colour designation for it is 'Honda Lava Grey' (not to be confused with Audi Lava Grey).  My original sloper back in 1972 was that colour but my sloper now I did in Neptune Blue Metallic only because it was a Honda UK  press bike and it was that blue originally.

This is the Dream 250 in Hondas Museum. Colour looks a bit dark but it's deffo XE code. XE parts I have owned NOS were all different shades !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHjTZNq-t5Q
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 03, 2023, 08:33:20 PM
I'mnot really into small capacity four strokes but I just watched that short clip............what a beautiful bike that is! AND a wicked colour too, love it!

Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 04, 2023, 09:51:42 AM
Yep it's a lovely colour and luckily the tank was in excellent condition (spotless inside) but as it has large chrome sides on it, the paint underneath was original and immaculate so was very easy for my local paint shop to match up.
Paint is base coat and 2 pak lacquer. 
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 04, 2023, 10:18:56 AM
Great work Paul, it really is getting there now. I love the small Honda twin engine, nice and simple to work on. I would like to get my hands on a CB160 to restore as that was my very first bike and you never forget your first bike do you   :)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 04, 2023, 10:53:53 AM
Great work Paul, it really is getting there now. I love the small Honda twin engine, nice and simple to work on. I would like to get my hands on a CB160 to restore as that was my very first bike and you never forget your first bike do you   :)
No you don't mine was a Suzuki Stinger T125 again going for a fortune if you can get one  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on March 20, 2023, 03:40:29 PM
There is a lot to paint on these CD175's
Head lamp bowl
2 x side panels
Top & bottom chain guard
2 exhaust brackets
Rear mud guard and brackets (primed)
Front mud guard and brackets (primed)
Tank (primed)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on March 20, 2023, 03:42:45 PM
That’s looking Well, I have the same spray booth


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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 20, 2023, 06:31:32 PM
My Cordylines didn’t survive the winter.

It went down to -8°C in December. It’s been that cold before but never for a whole week.

It would be nice to have a spray booth / paint shop like that.


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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on March 20, 2023, 06:56:32 PM
I've just been given a green house, my wives best mate is dying and it's not wanted by her family so I asked and got. Result. Might grow some tomatoes and peppers. Don't like tomatoes myself but the wife says home grown ones taste superb.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Sesman on March 20, 2023, 07:01:27 PM
You asked for a dying persons greenhouse?😳😳
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on March 20, 2023, 07:44:22 PM
If they are brown and drooping they are probably dead.

You need to cut them off where the trunk is firm (not soggy and rotten) and they may grow back. That’s what I’m hoping.


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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Multiman on March 20, 2023, 08:22:21 PM
Cheers Steve
defo worth a try.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on March 20, 2023, 11:08:45 PM
You asked for a dying persons greenhouse?😳😳

No I asked my missus to ask her son if anyone wanted it, I knew none of them had green fingers so it would have been thrown or sold with the house. The son said he'd asked his brother and sister and neither wanted it so I could have it.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on March 21, 2023, 07:47:03 AM
I use the greenhouse as a drying room it was nearly 70 deg in there on Sunday as the sun was fully on it.
Can you all do me a favour and delete any non related bike posts.
Yes Ken you cannot beat home grown toms Sungold my favourite.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Sesman on March 21, 2023, 08:23:07 AM
Good use of a greenhouse…..drying room. I gave up on Toms and chillies, just didn’t have the green fingers.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on April 11, 2023, 09:03:54 AM
Got more parts painted, lacquered and bolted on.
Didn't realise how much painting there is on one of these  :o
Need to get in touch with Silvers regarding parts they say are superseded but DON'T FIT  >:( >:(
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: taysidedragon on April 11, 2023, 10:13:48 AM
That's coming on a treat Paul. 👍
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on April 11, 2023, 10:17:18 AM
Seeing that tank shape takes me back to my teenage 250 cc years.

Your build is looking very good Paul - I can breath in the nostalgia your photos generate.

Pretty sure the rear brake pedal is on the left in the photo so they must have been right side gear change - tbh I just can't remember.

.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50432719296_c3dfe7ddf7_w.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jQySp3)Ted's Honda 250 circa 1967 (https://flic.kr/p/2jQySp3) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr


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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on April 11, 2023, 10:46:56 AM
Great job Paul, coming on lovey....
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on April 11, 2023, 01:28:58 PM
The angle of the photograph makes the rear brake arm look to be part of the rear spindle, I had to keep looking at it to reassure myself that's not the case.

Prestige did a stunning job on the chrome, some of that I thought was beyond replating.

Looking very nice Paul
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on April 11, 2023, 03:45:51 PM
Prestige have always been fantastic.
Diane can be a bit feisty if you get on the wrong side of her, but knows her job when it comes to chrome plating.
Not the quickest but always worth waiting on.
Would have no problems recommending them to anyone. ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 16, 2023, 09:03:22 AM
Few more bits back on.
Rear light rebuilt and indicators.
Still looking for the hens tooth right exhaust ::)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on May 16, 2023, 11:32:13 AM
Looking mint, love it. Well done


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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on May 16, 2023, 12:16:49 PM
Nice work Paul. 👍👍👍
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverda Dave on May 16, 2023, 09:51:36 PM
Excellent work Paul. The sloper engine is very pretty.
I'm going to try Prestige as my plater in West London can no longer Chrome plate due to environmental issues.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 17, 2023, 07:37:09 AM
Excellent work Paul. The sloper engine is very pretty.
I'm going to try Prestige as my plater in West London can no longer Chrome plate due to environmental issues.
You won't be disappointed but could be a wait.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: royhall on May 17, 2023, 08:21:42 AM
Nice to see a project that's a bit different. All looks to be coming along nicely. In fact it's looking really nice Paul.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on May 17, 2023, 03:58:03 PM
You need more bikes Paul, that garage is almost empty  :D :D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on May 17, 2023, 05:25:15 PM
You need more bikes Paul, that garage is almost empty  :D :D

Standard observation ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 18, 2023, 07:46:53 AM
You need more bikes Paul, that garage is almost empty  :D :D

 ;D ;D I'm going to get shut of a couple.
The K1 750 is getting too bloody heavy to be lugging around  ::)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Nurse Julie on May 18, 2023, 11:37:28 AM
You need more bikes Paul, that garage is almost empty  :D :D

 ;D ;D I'm going to get shut of a couple.
The K1 750 is getting too bloody heavy to be lugging around  ::)

You need to ride it and not to lug it about  :-*
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on May 18, 2023, 03:14:04 PM
You need more bikes Paul, that garage is almost empty  :D :D

 ;D ;D I'm going to get shut of a couple.
The K1 750 is getting too bloody heavy to be lugging around  ::)

You need to ride it and not to lug it about  :-*
I'm OK while riding it well on tip toe due to the height and saddle width  ;D ;D it's getting it in and out of the garage and moving it around to do work on the others  :(
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 17, 2024, 08:12:59 AM
MIRACLES do happen  ;D ;D ;D ;D now on to fitting them and DONE.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 17, 2024, 08:13:39 AM
 :)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 17, 2024, 08:15:14 AM
Don't know why it took you so long to find them Paul 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well done.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 17, 2024, 08:37:02 AM
Well done Paul .. so now you are a hoarder of a left hand ha ha !

When that guy cleared a property he must have thought all of his birthdays had come at once ... notice he had a set of NOS fork stanchions and a sloper engine with an SS125 carb fitted? Never seen that diaphragm carb fitted to a 175 before ... wonder if it worked OK?
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 17, 2024, 09:48:02 AM
Don't know why it took you so long to find them Paul 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Well done.
I was only messaging Ash the day before saying I didn't think I was ever going to find the right hand one as I have a left hand and then bingo.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 17, 2024, 09:49:40 AM
Well done Paul .. so now you are a hoarder of a left hand ha ha !

When that guy cleared a property he must have thought all of his birthdays had come at once ... notice he had a set of NOS fork stanchions and a sloper engine with an SS125 carb fitted? Never seen that diaphragm carb fitted to a 175 before ... wonder if it worked OK?
I will check that everything is OK with them and then the left hand one will be up for sale  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 17, 2024, 10:59:45 AM
Well done Paul, good things come to those who wait.
Whilst you are on a winning streak, can you let me know the lottery numbers for Saturday's draw please ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 17, 2024, 12:54:31 PM
Well done Paul, good things come to those who wait.
Whilst you are on a winning streak, can you let me know the lottery numbers for Saturday's draw please ;)
I'll send you next weeks as I need this weeks  ;) ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 17, 2024, 03:35:42 PM
I've last weeks numbers if this helps?
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Post by: taysidedragon on January 17, 2024, 05:24:53 PM
I've last weeks numbers if this helps?

😂😂
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on January 17, 2024, 10:29:55 PM
That’s the “mutts nuts” that pipes Paul! Nice find.😜
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 22, 2024, 08:18:02 AM
Another one finished  ;D ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on January 22, 2024, 08:31:15 AM
Top job that Paul, well done. Like the colour scheme, something about gunmetal that just does it for me.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 22, 2024, 08:37:41 AM
That really is a top job Paul, it looks stunning.
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Post by: Laverda Dave on January 22, 2024, 09:49:12 AM
Great job Paul. Fantastic attention to detail, well done.  What's the plan with this one after all the exhaust pain?
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 22, 2024, 10:37:43 AM
Awesome job on that Paul, well done that man, you must be very proud of that, I would be. 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on January 22, 2024, 11:18:15 AM
Stunning 10/10. Must be super proud.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 22, 2024, 11:39:19 AM
Looks like a new one Paul - also a great colour you must be well chuffed.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Johnny4428 on January 22, 2024, 01:14:46 PM
That’s a great looking bike there Paul! Nice work! 👍

Just checked out the post at start of thread to remind me of the condition when you recieved the bike. WoW!
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Craizeehair on January 22, 2024, 03:44:44 PM
That looks amazing. I was hoping to pick one of these up for my first restoration but the lack of exhaust availability put me off. Agree on the colour choice as well, first class.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 23, 2024, 07:58:05 AM
Thanks for the comments everyone ;D
Will be keeping it for now but looking to move on the 750K1
Getting a bit heavy for me to move around the garage with my back.
Also need room for the next project.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: royhall on January 23, 2024, 08:16:23 AM
That's a beauty Paul. Nice to see something a bit different. I know what you mean about the weight, it's becoming a common issue amongst our increasingly geriatric membership.

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Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: davidcumbria on January 23, 2024, 08:35:44 AM
Congratulations that’s a great restoration - well done and thanks for the thread 👍
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 23, 2024, 08:36:01 AM
Cracking job Paul. That's my favourite colour too  and was the colour of mine I had in 1972 but I painted mine Neptune Blue as it was Honda's press bike and Motor Cycle magazines review model OLA 4E and was it's original colour. It's in the second review here (for the MCM review they had to borrow one from a policeman as Honda UK had sold out   :D)  :- 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pmj1fju95l8xbtj/CD175%20Sloper%20Reviews.pdf?dl=0

Whats your next project Paul ? I suggest an S90 but be warned... LOTS of changes in that models relatively short run ... like 3 changes of exhaust from £400 NOS  unobtainium to £130 NOS  readily available from DS at £130. I am your man if you need advice.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Matt_Harrington on January 23, 2024, 05:19:17 PM
What a lovely looking bike. I'm especially fond of the silver paintwork. Have you wheeled it into the living room?  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Skoti on January 23, 2024, 07:43:34 PM
Nice to see bread and butter Honda's restored as well.
Well done indeed.

Will you be looking out for the correct right hand side tank badge and maybe consider fitting a ribbed pattern front tyre for originality?
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 24, 2024, 07:56:20 AM
I am awaiting the correct badges as they have 175 under the Honda logo, I have the correct ones that came with the bike but they have a small amount of pitting on them.
No choice of ribbed tyres for a 3x16inch very very limited choice.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Skoti on January 24, 2024, 09:12:16 AM
Aye,

It's a bit of a challenge finding stuff for more obscure models but worth it in the end I believe.
I did wonder about the tyre size after posting that comment, it's easy to assume all those tyre sizes are still available as they used to be.
 But even rear 19" tyres for my Commando are becoming difficult now as well.

Thanks for posting the photos.

Cheers

Skoti

Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: BigAl (Alan) on January 24, 2024, 03:35:01 PM
Excellent job. Completed a CD175A restoration a number of years ago, but never sourced the original all plastic tank badges
Image attached of the my old original faded badges.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 24, 2024, 04:15:33 PM
Thanks Alan.
Yep all the succeeded part numbers have the 175 bit missing.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 24, 2024, 08:54:05 PM
Thanks Alan.
Yep all the succeeded part numbers have the 175 bit missing.

The superseded metal badges are from the JDM CB259K0 and Honda must have decided to sell these to replace the plastic badges as replacements on  the earlier models that had plastic emblems with the model size on them.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 25, 2024, 11:19:59 AM
Aye,

It's a bit of a challenge finding stuff for more obscure models but worth it in the end I believe.
I did wonder about the tyre size after posting that comment, it's easy to assume all those tyre sizes are still available as they used to be.
 But even rear 19" tyres for my Commando are becoming difficult now as well.

Thanks for posting the photos.

Cheers
I forgot to add to that I put the badges on the opposit sides so I didnnt get to like them and remind me that I still need to try and get the originals. ;D ;D

Skoti
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on January 25, 2024, 01:45:48 PM
There is a pair on eBay Paul with the Honda wing with 175 underneath, unfortunately I’m on an iPad and have no idea how to copy and paste a link but the description reads For Honda ca175, cd175, cb175 K0, cl175 K0, fuel tank emblem l/r brand new, if that helps. They are repros but I suppose trying to find new genuine is asking a bit much these days.
Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: paul G on January 25, 2024, 03:05:05 PM
Thanks Ken but at that price for repro's and £15 postage I'll let him keep them ;)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/325755328277?hash=item4bd887d715:g:MzUAAOSwKaRkyrAD

Title: Re: PROJECT HONDA CD175A (SLOPER)
Post by: Oddjob on January 25, 2024, 05:31:42 PM
Wasn't those I saw Paul, took me a while to find, even searching for the exact wording didn't find it. However typing in CD175 tank badges in Google did for some strange reason.

These may be ok, I'm not sure, certainly cheaper than the one above. They have a very strange font on the Honda logo and a weird way of crossing the H in Honda. Might be the same as OE, I couldn't say.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/183039345096
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