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Thanks Bryan - a few minutes ago I took out the brake hub- removed the shoes - put it back into the wheel - torqued it up rotated freely - so it's just a very close fit - as it was when I first rode the bike.

The Shoes look like the DS ones they are marked SOK 283 .

Bryan I have never had a flap wheel so how are they sized can you post or PM me a link as to the size & grade I need please?

I assume they will fit a normal drill.
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CB500/550 / Re: Im a diesel idiot !!!!
« Last post by Laverda Dave on Today at 08:57:04 PM »
I did it with the VFR. I didn't even know until I pulled out from the forecourt onto the main road and it died. I pushed it the two miles home and drained 15ltrs of diesel into three jerry cans and gave them to my neighbour for his van. I had to replace the fuel filter in order to be able to start the bike.
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Ted i think that was one of 3 i had relined by Paul in Huddersfield when he was doing them.
As far as i know he used cast iron pipe not brake drums and did do them to smallest size.
It was a long time ago so maybe a bit of corrosion, i would use a flap wheel in a drill to clean out the drum.
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CB500/550 / Re: Im a diesel idiot !!!!
« Last post by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on Today at 08:37:17 PM »
Petrol floats in Diesel so it will probably soon soot up the plugs then start to misfire.
Anecdotal Story
It was a long time ago but an lovely Irishman (Keith Dunne) I worked with used to put diesel in his petrol car to save money as in the 1960's it was cheaper- he drove a Standard Vanguard - it would smoke like the clappers and eventually it seized up.
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CB500/550 / Re: Im a diesel idiot !!!!
« Last post by taysidedragon on Today at 08:17:14 PM »
Personally I would consider draining out the tank and start with new petrol - diesel is not good for the piston rings.


Is that true Ted, or just a feeling?
One litre in a full tank of about 18litres can't make too much difference. Not recommended,  but not disastrous.
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CB500/550 / Re: Im a diesel idiot !!!!
« Last post by marroinia on Today at 07:39:27 PM »
Haha! It happened to me once when working in an australian farm. I filled up a quad bike to the pump dedicated to diesel tractors, whistling to that beautiful morning coming up. It smoked a LOT and finally stall 2 minutes later, and I learnt a LOT of new cursing and swearing in english from the local mecanic!

He drained the whole thing and cleaned everything with gasoline, the bike started as new and I went back to work fairly ashamed  ;D
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CB500/550 / Re: Im a diesel idiot !!!!
« Last post by McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on Today at 06:40:21 PM »
Personally I would consider draining out the tank and start with new petrol - diesel is not good for the piston rings.

Not sure if the diesel will seperate out when standing or if the two hydrocarbons are compleltly miscible.
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CB500/550 / Re: Im a diesel idiot !!!!
« Last post by Athame57 on Today at 06:19:04 PM »
Did it smoke a lot?  ;D  I nearly did that once but a sharp eyed attendant rescued me!
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CB500/550 / Im a diesel idiot !!!!
« Last post by paulbaker1954 on Today at 06:13:53 PM »
Went to fill up with 99 juice at end of a run today, tank just on reserve and stupidly got the pumps muddled up and put about a litre of high spec diesel in.

Quickly realise my error and stopped and filled up with 99 E5

Stemmed to run fine on the 10 miles home

Guess it just got well diluted

Lesson learned 😂😂😂
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Good point I'm going to get the fixed bearing fully home as it was before. I'm thinking the right side will move back out a little but not as far out as it was.

I understand the fixed bearing principle - the lock ring seems to have two functions. Securing the fixed bearing and holding the drive hub fully home.

Update:- I removed the lock ring (again) and using a drift with a good sized lump hammer the left side bearing is fully home. The hammer strike changed tone as it butted up to the recess. Drive hub and lock ring fitted back and it's fully tightened with no gap visible between the ring & hub face. Visually the right side bearing has moved out slightly but nothing like it was.

I now have a slightly different issue that existed before I stripped down the bike - some light binding. The rear brake linings have a very slight bind.  I had to file the brake shoe ends where they pivot as there was no room for the top washer only the split pin. The brake shoes also appear to be a tad wider than what feels right when you fit the brake hub it's a difficult wiggle.
 
There is no free play in the brake shoe system. A very slight amount of lever movement in either direction applys the brakes. It's diffucult to pin down but it feels as if the binding is more like the side of the brake linings touching the inside of the hub.


From previous posts it appears that the original brake linings are no longer available so it's a bit of a raffle to get the correct ones. My next move is to see if a chamfer on the inside edge of the curved shoe might improve things. I think but am not sure that the hub has had a new steel lining fitted in the past.

I'm going to remove the brake shoes and re-fit the hub to be 100% sure it's just the linings causing the bind.
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