Post by: SPR on October 14, 2022, 07:56:41 PM
And here she is ..... very different but I'm sure will complement the Honda
Haven't got it in my hands yet as ofcourse it is 300 odd miles away :)
Simon
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 14, 2022, 08:10:09 PM
The headlamp arrangement looks like my 500 will end up as a fork ear & gaiters are not cheap
Post by: SPR on October 14, 2022, 08:12:47 PM
Tidy looking period bike - only draw back for me I like a disc brake.
Apparently the front brake is as good as the equivalent 70's disk brake ...... I'll report back on that ;D
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 14, 2022, 08:20:17 PM
So Simon are you the mystery Loto Winner?
Post by: SPR on October 14, 2022, 08:23:21 PM
I've heard that before but........
So Simon are you the mystery Loto Winner?
LOL - I wish - the SF is much much cheaper than a Jota
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 14, 2022, 08:25:19 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on October 14, 2022, 08:44:38 PM
Drum that size are usually quite potent if setup well as all of the torque is right out at the perimeter unlike a disc at the very inner pad area.
Looks like fun anyway, along with a big contrast to the 500 four.
Post by: SPR on October 14, 2022, 08:52:46 PM
Looks like fun anyway, along with a big contrast to the 500 four.Contrast is always good - but the Honda will be most used I suspect :)
Post by: Bryanj on October 14, 2022, 10:02:31 PM
Post by: taysidedragon on October 14, 2022, 10:38:02 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 15, 2022, 01:15:32 AM
I didnt know you were after anythung else Sy, good man, what a thing, you'll love. You really know when you're riding a Laverda ;D ;D I'll leave you to find out ;) ;)
Listen to Bryan, the pistons can nip up for fun on these if not maintained and generally nannied to keep them super reliable.
I've had that front brake set up on a 'Monduic 500' I used to have before it was swapped for a disc set up, you'll be smashing yer face into the top yolk with that set up and the right shoes in it. I always used Ferodo in mine but no doubt that chap in Scotand thats a Laverda encyclopedia will let you have whas best for it.
Lovely condition but with that being said, the orange ones were faster than the blue ones ;)
Beautiful bike that, well done. I hanker for another but the way the prices are going up it may have to be a 'semi- antique' Trumpet at this rate.
Good on yer, what a great buy. MASSIVE well done from me but I am a bit of an italian bike pervert ;D
.............................Alright, just a pervert for bike porn! ;D (thought it best tp get that in there befor Ken does ;D)
Post by: Oddjob on October 15, 2022, 04:17:15 AM
Never thought of that before but it sounds right.
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 15, 2022, 05:31:29 AM
Post by: SPR on October 15, 2022, 07:01:17 AM
I'll take on board the warming up bit Bryan - cheers
As it is already in Sotland I'm debating having it dropped to Keith at Laverda Scozia for check over / service
Post by: Spitfire on October 15, 2022, 10:13:44 AM
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: Sesman on October 15, 2022, 10:38:16 AM
I reckon if I’d kept it and run it for the last 42 years I’d have spent more on it than it is worth now!
Post by: SPR on October 15, 2022, 11:37:18 AM
He knows the restorer who did the job a couple of years ago and says he is decent
Post by: Johnwebley on October 15, 2022, 02:19:58 PM
if you need any details about it,might be worth contacting Richard Slater,of Slater Laverda,Bromyard, Herefordshire,
they were the original importers
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 15, 2022, 02:49:24 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone :)
I'll take on board the warming up bit Bryan - cheers
As it is already in Sotland I'm debating having it dropped to Keith at Laverda Scozia for check over / service
He's yer ,an, couldnt think of the cahps name. He's the Don on these, worth the wait and the money.
Post by: SPR on October 15, 2022, 03:50:51 PM
if you need any details about it,might be worth contacting Richard Slater,of Slater Laverda,Bromyard, Herefordshire,
they were the original importers
Thanks John
Post by: Laverda Dave on October 15, 2022, 04:07:04 PM
Thanks for the kind words everyone :)
I'll take on board the warming up bit Bryan - cheers
As it is already in Sotland I'm debating having it dropped to Keith at Laverda Scozia for check over / service
Well done Simon, the SF is a fantastic bike and a great way to get into the world of Laverda. The drum brakes were of Laverda's own manufacture. This is where the name SF comes from 'Super Freno' or Super Brake if translated. Get yourself a copy of Laverda Twins & Triple Bible by Simon Fallon, it is very informative.
I 100% reccomend Keith Nairn, he's a very busy man but you will not find anyone better to fettle a Laverda. He can 'twist' the crank to give a 270 firing order, they sound awesome! Keith bought most of his tooling to rebuild cranks from Phil Todd a few years ago. What Keith doesn't know and what he cannot do with Laverda's isn't worth knowing.
Join the ILOC as well, they are a great owners club.
Post by: SPR on October 15, 2022, 04:23:13 PM
Well done Simon, the SF is a fantastic bike and a great way to get into the world of Laverda. The drum brakes were of Laverda's own manufacture. This is where the name SF comes from 'Super Freno' or Super Brake if translated. Get yourself a copy of Laverda Twins & Triple Bible by Simon Fallon, it is very informative.
I 100% reccomend Keith Nairn, he's a very busy man but you will not find anyone better to fettle a Laverda. He can 'twist' the crank to give a 270 firing order, they sound awesome! Keith bought most of his tooling to rebuild cranks from Phil Todd a few years ago. What Keith doesn't know and what he cannot do with Laverda's isn't worth knowing.
Join the ILOC as well, they are a great owners club.
Cheers Dave
Spoke to Keith this morning and he is going to get it serviced next week - the seller is closeby to him and they know each other ... I'll search for the book :) Joined ILOC as well
Simon
Post by: Laverda Dave on October 15, 2022, 08:36:41 PM
Well done Simon, the SF is a fantastic bike and a great way to get into the world of Laverda. The drum brakes were of Laverda's own manufacture. This is where the name SF comes from 'Super Freno' or Super Brake if translated. Get yourself a copy of Laverda Twins & Triple Bible by Simon Fallon, it is very informative.
I 100% reccomend Keith Nairn, he's a very busy man but you will not find anyone better to fettle a Laverda. He can 'twist' the crank to give a 270 firing order, they sound awesome! Keith bought most of his tooling to rebuild cranks from Phil Todd a few years ago. What Keith doesn't know and what he cannot do with Laverda's isn't worth knowing.
Join the ILOC as well, they are a great owners club.
Cheers Dave
Spoke to Keith this morning and he is going to get it serviced next week - the seller is closeby to him and they know each other ... I'll search for the book :) Joined ILOC as well
Simon
Was the SF one of Grant's restorations? He owned my 120 Jota a few owners before I bought it. You won't go wrong with Keith, if he says something needs doing it really does. Say hello to him from Dave when you see him, he's rebuilding the motor on my 120 Jota.
You will love the SF, lots of grunt and high quality castings, Laverda had their own foundry and made their own engines, wheels and brakes. When you buy a Laverda you join the family!
Post by: SPR on October 15, 2022, 08:41:08 PM
Was the SF one of Grant's restorations? He owned my 120 Jota a few owners before I bought it. You won't go wrong with Keith, if he says something needs doing it really does. Say hello to him from Dave when you see him, he's rebuilding the motor on my 120 Jota.
You will love the SF, lots of grunt and high quality castings, Laverda had their own foundry and made their own engines, wheels and brakes. When you buy a Laverda you join the family!
I don't know the name of the restorer .... I'm hoping for a quick turnaround but he is in the middle of moving premises as well at the moment
Post by: Bryanj on October 15, 2022, 08:46:06 PM
Post by: Laverda Dave on October 15, 2022, 08:52:51 PM
Was the SF one of Grant's restorations? He owned my 120 Jota a few owners before I bought it. You won't go wrong with Keith, if he says something needs doing it really does. Say hello to him from Dave when you see him, he's rebuilding the motor on my 120 Jota.
You will love the SF, lots of grunt and high quality castings, Laverda had their own foundry and made their own engines, wheels and brakes. When you buy a Laverda you join the family!
I don't know the name of the restorer .... I'm hoping for a quick turnaround but he is in the middle of moving premises as well at the moment
That's good to know, his workshop at the moment is so cold and not being a proper bike workshop was a bit spread out. He will be glad to move to a better place. Ill give him a call next week to see how my Jota motor is getting on.
Post by: SPR on December 21, 2022, 05:33:33 AM
Bike is finally being delivered to me tomorrow after Keith has had his hands on it - biggest things done apart from service inc primary chain as the fitted one wasn't quality and a new battery box fabricated and an electronic ignition which all added up to an eye watering bill ::)
Hope it is all worth it .... Keith did say it was a good one
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Simon
Post by: Sesman on December 21, 2022, 09:23:31 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 21, 2022, 09:54:07 AM
Looking really nice. Is that a duplex chain Ona triplex drive set?
Is that the chain that was replaced certainly look strange?
Post by: K2-K6 on December 21, 2022, 10:14:08 AM
Post by: Laverda Dave on December 21, 2022, 10:36:21 AM
I bet you can't wait to ride it, have a blast 🙂
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 21, 2022, 11:18:24 AM
Well ... bit of a marathon this :)
Theyre soooooooo lovely! I forgot how pretty they are even with no clothes on!
Envy creeping in here Simon, well done that man!
Bike is finally being delivered to me tomorrow after Keith has had his hands on it - biggest things done apart from service inc primary chain as the fitted one wasn't quality and a new battery box fabricated and an electronic ignition which all added up to an eye watering bill ::)
Hope it is all worth it .... Keith did say it was a good one
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Post by: SPR on December 21, 2022, 11:48:22 AM
Looking really nice. Is that a duplex chain Ona triplex drive set?
It had twin simplex fitted which he has swapped with lwis heavy duty duplex
This was what it arrived with
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Post by: Sesman on December 21, 2022, 01:40:04 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 21, 2022, 03:20:45 PM
Post by: K2-K6 on December 21, 2022, 04:24:52 PM
Presumably fitting a triple chain is not as strong as a duplex due to width clearances on the links ?
I think it's an area of chain specs in which the chain's mass becomes a problem to support with it's own integrity. Running at speed on the crank and with whip over unsupported section, it just needs more structure to avoid that cadence? taking it's toll on it's own loaded component and that of the bearings in use to support the drive system.
Two runs of links are easily able to take the total loading, adding less to the forces in play. It should last longer too.
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 21, 2022, 04:47:49 PM
cheers
Post by: SPR on December 26, 2022, 11:13:30 AM
Hindsight would have said wait till later in the day and avoid going found the roundabout covered in ice
Onwards and upwards and a careful 30 miles shows it really is a different beast from a nice smooth 500/4
I would say a lot more agricultural but that would be a disservice once you got in to the swing of it - gearchange on the opposite side makes it feel awkward as is the increased effort getting a positive change through the gear lever .....
Once you get going it does feel very good and Keith has done a cracking job servicing and setting it up with the new ignition etc
All in all definately a keeper but will take some mastering
Simon
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Post by: Sesman on December 26, 2022, 11:18:14 AM
Post by: SPR on December 26, 2022, 11:34:52 AM
Oh, yes. Very tidy indeed. Out of interest, we’re they equipped with velocity stacks as standard?
Yes - on this model they were - the later SF2 onwards had a traditional setup with air filter and rubber connectors
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 26, 2022, 12:06:11 PM
Agricultural, a bit, definitely compared to the 500 but wait until you get it to stretch its legs, when you spin them up, they just like to go like most Italian bikes. (Puch’s aside
)When you can open her up when weather permits, you’ll absolutely love it.
Super chuffed for you, what a beautiful thing!
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Post by: Bryanj on December 26, 2022, 12:11:21 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 26, 2022, 12:13:54 PM
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 26, 2022, 05:04:42 PM
Fantastic, watch that salt though, they dissolve for fun when you’re not looking.
Agricultural, a bit, definitely compared to the 500 but wait until you get it to stretch its legs, when you spin them up, they just like to go like most Italian bikes. (Puch’s aside
When you can open her up when weather permits, you’ll absolutely love it.
Super chuffed for you, what a beautiful thing!
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I thought Puch were Austrian like me when I was made in 1948?
Post by: K2-K6 on December 26, 2022, 05:36:30 PM
Puch, definitely Austrian with one of the best Puch "motorbikes" being this twin cylinder air cooled example
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Steyr Daimler Puch Haflinger.
Post by: andy120t on December 26, 2022, 05:38:20 PM
Meanwhile, Germany had Pusch...'little bit of politics there'...
Post by: andy120t on December 26, 2022, 05:39:15 PM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 26, 2022, 05:49:33 PM
They were Austrian - but Wiki also tells me made under licence in Italy.
Meanwhile, Germany had Pusch...'little bit of politics there'...
Never heard of Pusch reads like a typo were they Russian?
If they were made under licence in Italy then on that basis Mercedes are South African as most C class models are built in SA.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on December 26, 2022, 05:56:15 PM
They were Austrian - but Wiki also tells me made under licence in Italy.
Meanwhile, Germany had Pusch...'little bit of politics there'...
Never heard of Pusch reads like a typo were they Russian?
If they were made under licence in Italy then on that basis Mercedes are South African as most C class models are built in SA.
Puch mopeds?
Post by: Sesman on December 26, 2022, 06:16:22 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 26, 2022, 06:32:49 PM
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Post by: Bryanj on December 26, 2022, 06:49:07 PM
Of course Laverdas are agricultural, they did start off making tractors and combines
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 26, 2022, 06:58:26 PM
OK, i will say it
Of course Laverdas are agricultural, they did start off making tractors and combines
True and Aston Martin made tractrors DB is David Brown tractors - no shame in your origins.
Post by: Bryanj on December 27, 2022, 03:14:49 AM
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on December 27, 2022, 08:48:48 AM
Post by: Johnny4428 on December 27, 2022, 09:07:27 AM
Post by: SPR on December 27, 2022, 09:09:57 AM
Nothing wrong with agricultural! Gives tremendous “pulling power”!🤣🤣
I need all the help I can get :)
Post by: Johnny4428 on December 27, 2022, 09:12:06 AM
Nothing wrong with agricultural! Gives tremendous “pulling power”!🤣🤣
I need all the help I can get :)
😂😂😂
Post by: Laverdaroo on December 27, 2022, 12:17:05 PM
Ha haaaaNothing wrong with agricultural! Gives tremendous “pulling power”!
I need all the help I can get :)
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