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Title: Bike Security
Post by: Riceman on October 10, 2018, 10:38:29 AM
Hi,

I am in the process of renewing my insurance and do not declare any security devices on my insurance as the ones I have are not listed on the comparison sites.
 At the moment I use a Aldi special (very heavy duty chain/lock) when it is parked up in the shed and when I am out and about I have a cheap, but substantial, cable lock which is easy to carry in a large pocket. So it may be sensible for me to invest in a recognised product to hopefully reduce my premium.
On that note, I was wondering what you guys use to lock your pride and joy up with and would you recommend it to others?

Regards to all,

Andy
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on October 10, 2018, 12:24:49 PM
I use these in my up-and-over garage door

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They are unobtrusive (especially since I painted the chrome bits black). Half the trick is not to advertise that you may have something valuable.


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Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Athame57 on October 10, 2018, 05:27:32 PM
I live in a Courtyard with two entry phoned gates. I keep it out of sight even more with a cover. I chain it up with an Oxford Monster lock and chain 200cm ...that was so heavy I had a problem getting it home on public transport. I take a more portable lock and chain out with me. Perhaps the best thing though is the age profile of the people in my courtyard..retired, always home and very nosey! :D   
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 10, 2018, 06:09:51 PM
Just the steering lock when generally out and about. Chained up to Trigs bike when we go away from home on the bikes for a few days ie,staying at hotels etc.  Bikes at home are usually in the house or workshops or if away for any time, Honda CB750 engines used as barricades inside all door entrances  ;D ;D ;D.  The insurance companies don't increase the premium if you have nothing other than what was fitted as standard on the bike, ie steering lock. The insurance companies may increase your premium if you have an electronic alarm system fitted as they only have one year warranty and as an electrical item, may cause other electrical problems, including fire so their risk is greater. Your insurance should be very cheap anyway, under £70 fully comp on a CB400/4 depending on post code, age blablabla.
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: K2-K6 on October 10, 2018, 06:30:38 PM
Big chain and padlock.

If you can,  with steering lock on,  loop the chain through front wheel and through the main frame loop to also stop the wheel being turned. The one's I've seen around here they sit or stand on the seat and kick the crap out of the handlebar to try and snap the steering lock,  which allows them to push it away somewhere to work further on it.
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: ka-ja on October 10, 2018, 07:18:22 PM
A solid padlock around the rear sprocket and chain does a decent job, and fits nicely into ypour pocket when out and about
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Riceman on October 10, 2018, 07:40:05 PM
Thanks for your responses, a lot of good ideas for me to check out.
 I must look into fixing my steering lock as the bike came without a key and the lock has been powder coated over by the previous owner. If Im lucky it might be a simple replacement key from a locksmith or, more than likely, a new lock barrel.
As for insurance Julie, I wish mine was as cheap as you quote, I'm paying £130 fully comp (only 1 years no claims) with Bennetts  :-(
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 10, 2018, 07:48:41 PM
We had the insurance conversation on the forum back in the summer and the costs do vary hugely from person to person, area to area etc. I insured a CB750/4 this year on a new policy, so no no claims bonus on this bike, fully comp and it was still only about £60 something quid. You could always say your is Andrea, a retired RGN living in the PE postcode area, I bet it will be a lot less than £130, just a thought 😁😁😁😁
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Davelu88 on October 10, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
My insurance company didn't find it funny when they asked me what security I had and I replied a Shotgun License and also An Abus Granite disc lock  ;D
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Riceman on October 10, 2018, 08:01:56 PM
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My insurance company didn't find it funny when they asked me what security I had and I replied a Shotgun License and also An Abus Granite disc lock  ;D

   :D
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Riceman on October 10, 2018, 08:11:28 PM
Thanks Julie, I think I will keep looking for a better quote, this was the best I could find compared to what was available on the comparison sites :o :D
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 10, 2018, 08:17:17 PM
There are 100's of companies Andy and some will say on the comparisons site that they don't do classic insurance. Swinton do that, they have their own website and it says the bike is too old but I'm with them on some of my classics, great price, maybe worth giving them a call direct, great to deal with
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Bryanj on October 10, 2018, 08:49:24 PM
Get an " Insured by Swith and Wesson" sticker. My firearms cert used to be 5 ft long!
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Athame57 on October 11, 2018, 02:18:48 AM
Your insurance should be very cheap anyway, under £70 fully comp on a CB400/4 depending on post code, age blablabla.
WWWWAAAAHHHHH!  :o Mine is £1050 TPFT! I'm 61, clean licence not made a claim 30 years! Alas, I live in Shadwell east London, part of what the insurance world do or did call the 'Bermuda triangle' ....because so much goes missing.
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: shifter on October 11, 2018, 02:44:40 AM
I leave the bride sat on the bike when out and about , workshop has air horns on each door  , and a certain weapon aiming from the bedroom window , BEWARE not shy .....
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: petermigreen on October 11, 2018, 07:22:16 AM
WWWWAAAAHHHHH!  :o Mine is £1050 TPFT! I'm 61, clean licence not made a claim 30 years! Alas, I live in Shadwell east London, part of what the insurance world do or did call the 'Bermuda triangle' ....because so much goes missing.
That makes me laugh! I Used to live/work in London and sometimes we’d go drinking in east end. To get to and fro from where  I lived in Putney I’d have to change at Shadwell from overground to DLR and vice versa. Due to the areas’ reputation we used to call it “doing the Shadwell Shuffle”. I survived though.
In my sleepy hamlet I pay around £200 for 6 bikes fully comp. don’t know why you’d want to live in the smoke?
Peter



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Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Athame57 on October 11, 2018, 08:35:52 AM
Hey Peter...did you harden your heart between the stations? Some of the numerous beggars are asking people for £2.00 now! I live about 300 yards from the interchange.
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: SumpMagnet on October 13, 2018, 08:22:23 PM
Yep..I pay £500 fully comp on my Hornet 900 in Enfield. No garage, which a lot of ionsurance companies just won't touch now.

Ground anchor, Oxford Monster, plus the stock immobiliser. If I am going away...the Abus Granite U-Lock goes on the front too. And a disc lock on the rear.

Out and about, I use the disc lock on the back ( not the front.... ) and the Abus on the front....or to attach it to something if I am able to find something.

No device will prevent theft if someone really wants to take your bike. The idea is to make it as awkward as possible and let the thief go find an easier target instead.

I am currently planningf the most sensible precaution possible for when the F2 is road ready. Moving. To a house with a garage.
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: Athame57 on October 13, 2018, 10:51:14 PM
I am currently planningf the most sensible precaution possible for when the F2 is road ready. Moving. To a house with a garage.
Somebody told me the real quarry is scooters, and that I had not much to worry about.  Not much is plenty enough....but are scooters the main quarry, is it because they are the most numerous two wheelers?
Title: Re: Bike Security
Post by: SumpMagnet on October 14, 2018, 09:33:02 AM
Scooters are the main target for the opportunists and gangs, but insurance companies still put up our prices too.
In the main, scooters are easy to ride and used by delivery companies by the hundred. Easy to shift on.
We are more likely to be the target of professional thieves stealing to order.
Trackers can be used to 'find' your bike. See a target vehicle unattended..and plant a tracker. Then just wait to see where it spends the nights. Then go tooled up to lift it. A guide I know lost his CBR600RR that way.

We may not be target number 1....but I still do everything I can to make the scumbags pick someone else. I buy less popular machines and don't skimp on security
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