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Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: Orcade-Ian on May 20, 2018, 08:52:21 AM
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New system up and running, so just taxed the 400/4 on line and it knew that it was subject to this 40year rule. Simple yes/no question about modifications and it was done - taxed from May 1st so I have lost 3 weeks of free tax 😂. Will probably get Dr. D in Kirkwall (MOT man) to look over it when it’s convenient.
Ian
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Sounds simple enough Ian. Was yours already done as a Historic vehicle or did that happen automatically throughout the taxing process?
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Same as above 1976 550f just taxed little declaration done.
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Just tried now (10am) the system is down. The classic boys and girls have probably crashed it.
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Just tried now (10am) the system is down. The classic boys and girls have probably crashed it.
That was probably me Roy 😊😊 I have just tried and although it comes up with the new declaration for me to tick and it says it 40+ years old, it is still showing as bicycle and not historic, so it wants me to pay !!. Never mind, I'm not that desperate for this particular one, will sort it out another day.
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Yes Julie, already Historic, think it’s a trip to the Post Office if it’s still bicycle or unlicensed like my CB77.
Must say I did expect the system to fall over so I did mine when I got up - about 7.30 as I would like to use it before they had to fix the bugs.
Ian
Strangely enough, I tried just for fun yesterday and it would have let me tax it as it said that as the records show I am on an Island with no convenient method of using it on Mainland GB, no need for MOT. That is ONLY true for the outer isles but not Orkney Mainland - but we know they don’t know their arse from their elbow!
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Who remembers the recent Passport fiasco.....or the DVLA getting rid of paper Tax Discs and 'losing' over £100M revenue in the following year from 'untaxed' vehicles ? - so I had to smile when I read that the 'system had crashed' by 10am today.
Why didn't the DVLA just introduce a system whereby the vehicle becomes exempt on it's 40th anniversary of it's registration.......so that the 'system' is spread over 365 days of the year rather than just one day ?
I watched some of the Royal wedding yesterday....marvelling at how 100,000+ people could be a part of a massive undertaking which ran like clockwork and how hundreds of guests, participants, staff, police, ambulance and service personnel (and Horses) could all be assembled in the right place at the right time.......made me thoroughly proud to be British.
Fast forward one day and the DVLA system crashes.....makes you embarrassingly uncomfortable to be British............LOL.
Is there a Government Department where all the duffers and pillocks who fail miserably in their Civil Service jobs are assembled and whose sole purpose is to spend their working days dreaming up hare brained schemes which have little chance of success.........is it called the DTF Department.......Doomed to Fail ? Enjoy your Sunday folks.
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Hi Alan. Long time no see. Was wondering where you had gone.
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Quote. “Why didn't the DVLA just introduce a system whereby the vehicle becomes exempt on it's 40th anniversary of it's registration.......so that the 'system' is spread over 365 days of the year rather than just one day ?”
I think if they took a logical step like that, then many people would ask why there is a need for this Dick Turpin method of extracting two lots of revenue for the same item when vehicles are bought and sold. The other thing that brasses me off is that when you tax on line the money disappears from your account within seconds but refunds are sent out by post and always arrive on Saturdays when banks are shut. We might think they are stupid, but they never miss a trick to steal from us.
Ian
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Tried again and it's working fine. 16.25 Sunday. I like getting things for free. :D 8)
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Tried again and it's working fine. 16.25 Sunday. I like getting things for free. :D 8)
I just taxed the little RD,rated historic ,but it still claimed I needed an MOT,
after entering the 16 digit number,it confirmed the bike,and said successful.
nothing further about MOT
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Just Taxed my 550 without an MOT now I'm spoilt for choice for bikes to commute to work tomorrow. :)
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Alan, good to hear from you.
I think the minister responsible for the introduction of the new tax exempt system is being interviewed on tv today......
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New system up and running, so just taxed the 400/4 on line and it knew that it was subject to this 40year rule. Simple yes/no question about modifications and it was done - taxed from May 1st so I have lost 3 weeks of free tax 😂. Will probably get Dr. D in Kirkwall (MOT man) to look over it when it’s convenient.
Ian
Have just taxed my 500K1. The reminder asked for valid MOT. The Mot runs out in about 6 weeks. There was no yes/no question about modifications etc as the MOT is still in force when the tax starts 01/07/18. So all good. BUT, how will authority know that an MOT not required (mid July mine runs out), as it only applies to vehicles not "substantially changed" in last 30 years. Not all 40yr old vehicles and it has not been declared.
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Just "taxed" my 750F1 which I switched to Historic earlier this year, the tax reminder stated that the vehicle required an MOT so I do not know whether I need one when it runs out in September, very strange.
Dennis
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I tend to think the system that prints out reminders is not programmed to alter the printing for the new regs .
I suggest you re-new online ,and see what happens ,
it worked OK for my RD last month
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It renews fine, (because I have a valid MOT for 6 weeks) and tax goes through, but it looks like you only get the yes/no bit to answer if your MOT has already run out at the point of re-taxing. So therefore have not declared it MOT free.
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Yes, it only asks the question if there is no MOT on bike at the time of Taxing. If it is MOT'd, it is irrelevant so it doesn't trigger the question.
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I asked the DVLA whether a bike that was re-taxed with the MOT valid at that time then needed a declaration when the MOT expired. The answer was that there was no requirement (or provision) to allow completion of the declaration until the next time that the vehicle in question is taxed.
The bike affected is already in the historic class for road tax however, so I have no idea whether this affects matters and recommend that anyone taking this route checks with the DVLA directly, rather than relying on my second - hand information!
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Many thanks Flatfour for that nugget of info, I have the same dilemma with my Mini which is taxed as Historic but the mot runs out in July. I couldn’t find out if I had to do the declaration as soon as the mot ran out. I didn’t dare ring DVLA as I’m 70 next birthday and not sure I would live long enough to actually speak to someone :)
Ian
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Many thanks Flatfour for that nugget of info, I have the same dilemma with my Mini which is taxed as Historic but the mot runs out in July. I couldn’t find out if I had to do the declaration as soon as the mot ran out. I didn’t dare ring DVLA as I’m 70 next birthday and not sure I would live long enough to actually speak to someone :)
Ian
Brilliant! 😂😂
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Thanks Flatfour. That's part of my Monday job done. I still have a question for them to sort and found them pretty helpful in the past.
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Thanks as well, I feel a bit happier now
Dennis