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Title: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 27, 2023, 03:43:44 PM
I see we have someone flogging these on ebay - anyone tried them or make any comments?
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on August 27, 2023, 05:05:49 PM
Do you have a link or item number?
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: XS850 on August 27, 2023, 05:53:19 PM
EBay item # 155739423238

Cheers - Bruce
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Trigger on August 27, 2023, 06:41:14 PM
Not a very good seller. 3 items in 2 years. He will be a millionaire by the end of the year  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 27, 2023, 06:45:51 PM
Possibly a forum member 🤔🤔🤔. Good luck to the seller though, there is a sizeable UK market for them.
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 07:16:05 PM
Thats me, i made these a few months ago, and I've been testing them out for the past couple of months to make sure im happy with them. Trigger ive got another account but ive just started using this account for stuff ill need to pay tax on to make my accounting a bit easier
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Trigger on August 27, 2023, 07:21:13 PM
You say in the listing that the 400 has 2 types. I have only found one type in a 400 and in your picture "B" is the 500/550 type  ;)
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 07:24:58 PM
Thats interesting, both baskets came from 400 engines, and oddjob posted a pic of a 550 one and it was completely different to both. Do you have any pictures of 500 ones? Also do the 500 baskets fit the 400?
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Trigger on August 27, 2023, 07:28:34 PM
I have had a few 500 baskets done in germany and the shape is the same >>> https://www.fourever-classic-parts.de/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=26&Itemid=31
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 07:32:10 PM
If those ones in the link are 500 ones, they are the same as oddjobs 550 ones, but aren't the same as the one on my ebay photo
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 27, 2023, 07:38:11 PM
Your ad says there are two types of 400 cush rubbers, there is only one type, which I'm very familiar with. The 400 cush rubbers will not fit the 500 or 550 and vice versa as they are different clutch baskets. If I remember correctly, the 500 and 550 rubbers are the same, even though the baskets are different.
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 07:42:47 PM
Well both those rubbers came from baskets from running 400 engines, and they aren't 500 or 550 ones
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 27, 2023, 07:45:14 PM
Well both those rubbers came from baskets from running 400 engines, and they aren't 500 or 550 ones
OK, so one of the 400 baskets had the wrong cush rubbers fitted, there is definitely only one type for a 400.
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 07:47:06 PM
The rest of the basket is completely identical, but the aluminium posts are a different dimension and the holes in the gear are smaller, and it was still factory rivetted. If the 400 rubbers fitted it wouldn't be a problem.
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 07:48:17 PM
Could it have been a 350 clutch basket?
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 27, 2023, 07:55:55 PM
Could it have been a 350 clutch basket?
Yes, it may well of been, but I wouldn't know personally as I've never taken a 350 one apart. Here's some photos of the 400 rubbers, taken by a friend of mine, when he took his apart.

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Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 08:00:02 PM
Now that's confusing you've posted ones that are the same as type B on my ebay listing, which trigger says aren't 400 ones but are 500/550 ones

Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 08:04:25 PM
Ive only taken apart 4 400 baskets and 3 were type A and 1 was type B
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 27, 2023, 08:05:50 PM
It can get even more confusing 😂😂😂😂
Here's a link to Kevin (TTR400) post on him making and trialing cush rubbers and another forum member making some.

http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,18619.msg166659.html#msg166659

Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: amx1992 on August 27, 2023, 08:09:33 PM
So it looks like there are 2 types, I recon type B is a later design and probably better because theres more material on the side under load when used
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 27, 2023, 08:15:26 PM
So it looks like there are 2 types, I recon type B is a later design and probably better because theres more material on the side under load when used

I'm wondering if the very early 400's used 500 or 550 rubbers 🤔🤔🤔. The problem is none of us want to take our clutch baskets apart to test the theory 😂😂😂
Edit.... Or did the early 400's use the 350 clutch basket?
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Oddjob on August 27, 2023, 10:25:03 PM
The post shape on the 500/550 clutch basket is completely different to the 400 shape. Non Transferable in my opinion.

(https://i.postimg.cc/fyDhgMH4/IMG-3254.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mzXqPWfV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/BvTHfgqr/IMG-3255.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8FCjhLf4)
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Trigger on August 27, 2023, 11:26:58 PM
So it looks like there are 2 types, I recon type B is a later design and probably better because theres more material on the side under load when used

Interesting discussion as, Honda never made the clutch baskets and this was farmed out to many different suppliers. I am wondering if the rubbers and baskets were designed by the suppliers.

Though the CB750 sohc's have no rubbers in the baskets but, all have the same clutch cog and different baskets.

Some later honda's share the same baskets but, once taken apart you will find that they are different inside. I think the early CBR900r's had 6 different shaped rubbers in just 1995 which, would suggest that those basket came from 6 different suppliers   ;)
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 28, 2023, 01:45:26 PM
That's me, I made these a few months ago, and I've been testing them out for the past couple of months to make sure I'm happy with them. Trigger I've got another account but I've just started using this account for stuff ill need to pay tax on to make my accounting a bit easier

Any discount for us poor forum members?  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 28, 2023, 10:21:30 PM
I will need a set for a 400/4, how much will they be?
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: ozzybud on January 14, 2024, 12:12:41 AM
Has there any more information on the Clutch Basket Cushions. I have 2 Spare baskets and both of them have the Cushions that are mainly symmetrical. Any help on locating a set of these would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Oddjob on January 14, 2024, 07:31:57 AM
I'm in contact with Max who makes them, he's done me some stainless steel carb linkage rods for the 500/550F carbs, I asked him the other day what the news is on the clutch rubbers but as yet he hasn't replied. When he does I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: Oddjob on January 14, 2024, 07:37:01 AM
I think this is Max, location matches. Identify which shape of rubber you need, he even sells the backplate in the first 2 links.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156005502458?hash=item2452a70dfa:g:2MgAAOSwNetloepT&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4Egpq5ZlGs%2FgtHzRrVBNMEf1yIiTs0uWbAo7F8mRf3FKIbzP21AOtjcBd3fAVmvmM96EgZ49kiSfM2%2FZWBpBc9kHVXRh9AFee56m2XCuYC7N5YZqCi2XLITLDZXo1cEYrNM0cIv1D6Fqf%2F1T6pupBeLGpV1NCoUB9eOX04B%2FHAMDBmS%2F7cGnsxAu0GI1t92uOYCkJfQ9%2FfkxCT%2BSfx%2B6%2FMDMIYg5ipUB%2FS51BQRn9c6nIXkoRyVpQ8oGWCAmweunf8WJ4jfAK%2FwTQ7ecjWUyxJ43wJqEvJXUIH3ugW8Rg9pV%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9y-mO6gYw

OR

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156005498865?hash=item2452a6fff1:g:5ZQAAOSwa89loenv&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4CsMaU7m1MaUMIYIivg3q7Q9muArxDYobGTbMsV%2FVbBVyPzjd6Qt3hwheWxKmFleadUhsu85VRoo796%2BT1XFj55TF0uUQ4gc8rQ35qz6FjXvwO46%2BoQ6Y4ARgHW0qEQa6MV34maXHg3jS8M3w49eC7IhBIQKF7DNiCqPXAx%2FwOhX1lT8xH%2FvMhDBVP%2BNAiIFLvvtk%2Bb%2BE7%2BWBjxp69ZM4HM%2FS5LW328EAlz4mAmsJRoMAbNgpl1K%2B4jXj8nx9BH%2FCJiIyLrFInzzkgxi0gUJ%2BDQbjhthy8UX%2Ff3AdsRJAFSl%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9y-mO6gYw

OR

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156005488052?hash=item2452a6d5b4:g:brYAAOSwyb1loege&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwHpeE2PvMLusEl1o6CxQ9T%2BkdcAiC4X1pbAQwSrtz%2BLAWsIert5qE%2BjoVCfi047Sey6Godg1S2ACTrJ9H0N98h%2BAiEDPG0RdznNbufdpyMQcaPA06GtXs3o4TTczy3pKGnYoxymsXsyZMKAcbmGCi6fJtT4P8Ympv7p8Zbe9DRQT%2B3Brgeh64uFVFQhzmiu%2FFqcvitubvg%2FIIWRw8I6QR%2FBCCkfBUG4H3ZOHWqZQxSUMJmHl35G3sYHHQwOspF4mwA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9y-mO6gYw

OR

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/156005484771?hash=item2452a6c8e3:g:RAcAAOSwos9loeYa&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4KK9cO3ygAUjBy%2B44lyASzYAJPs3kOIyVQ16eSndM0idlvaUcWssbLYASy78%2BMNqcT5m%2F52dloIvud4OAjBmgbwY9Ei2%2B21qgam9y90AwJl%2BNB0WlPxPKiqwMDnL5CDN9JbTy%2BB2h92%2Flhy1NqBemW%2Fz6ftdolvilKyieC8GHZ5FTdcTRuXo806t%2BhzhiLnAHaW5%2FuZsqIdszZhfRkhfftqGRqsLuCJtBLitp9ujOEVW5YJYWnx6sP8qbJp2PpUyXBMU7svsX%2Fkq6W3JXazulU865FoBxInV21EZnzOl9oUY%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9y-mO6gYw
Title: Re: Clutch basket rubbers
Post by: ozzybud on January 14, 2024, 03:01:48 PM
Thank you!  This is great news.
Ozzybud
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