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Title: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 01, 2022, 10:22:01 PM
Not sure if anyone here might have a picture of the correct rear silencer bracket arrangement for the Motad system?

My bracket uses just one bolt on the rearmost frame mounting and looks a bit wrong somehow - not tried to fit it back on yet but the original fitting was under a lot of tension.

Are there any  decent off the shelf adjustable brackets available?

I have the original front pipes that are in good condition asside from the pipes being a tad rusted into the 4 into 1 part so might have to go for that and a new silencer otherwise.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 01, 2022, 10:46:15 PM
Hi Ted

Happy new year

Do these help?

It’s all I have of the bike before I replaced the Motad fie Delkevic

Best wishes Al

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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 02, 2022, 03:00:42 AM
Thanks Allan zooming in on the second photo I think I have a similar looking bracket that came in a box of oddments with the bike - might actually be the original hangar part - couldn't find it in the parts manual when I looked.

Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 02, 2022, 08:58:56 AM
Although knackered Ted, I have a complete system that I took off Chewy, out on the scrap pile. As soon as I'm'home I'll bob out and have a look and see if  I can get you some shots if I can and if you still need them.
Might even have the brackets and fitting kitknocking about if you cant find yours mate. I'll be backabout 1pm so I'll have a look then if you've not already sorted it.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 02, 2022, 12:04:52 PM
Although knackered Ted, I have a complete system that I took off Chewy, out on the scrap pile. As soon as I'm'home I'll bob out and have a look and see if  I can get you some shots if I can and if you still need them.
Might even have the brackets and fitting kitknocking about if you cant find yours mate. I'll be backabout 1pm so I'll have a look then if you've not already sorted it.

Thanks Roo I've just been off to local Covid place to get our PCR test as we have both been quite ill since Christmas Eve mainly feeling washed out, no appetite with bad coughs. Only managing a few hours sleep a day due to cough - lateral flow test negative so might just be a winter flu even though we have had flu jabs.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Bryanj on January 02, 2022, 12:22:42 PM
Ted, my wife who has me has had that cough since early november
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Sesman on January 02, 2022, 12:32:38 PM
Good move on the PCR, Ted. I had exactly the same symptoms. Interestingly I tested negative on three consecutive LF tests over a 48 hour period. I tested ‘positive’ on the PCR.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Deano400 on January 02, 2022, 12:52:19 PM
Ted, my son had symptoms and did LFTs 3 days running which were negative. Had a PCR on the day of his 3rd negative LFT and the PCR came back positive.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 02, 2022, 02:47:45 PM
First photo is the bracket I took off single bolt hole was on the rearmost frame hanger lug.


(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51793271677_320ffe3ca6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mUN4dH)IMG_20220102_141100 (https://flic.kr/p/2mUN4dH) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr

This is the plate from my bit box I have undone the captive bolts that have steel spacers for the short plate - the captive bolts are spaced as per the rear two frame hanger holes on both sets of holes - there are two holes not shown on the bottom where it has a 90 deg bend to attach to the silencer.

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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 02, 2022, 02:57:45 PM
Just got home, I'll have a look in a bit. Sorry youre feeling a but crap buddy. Good move on the PCR's though.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: taysidedragon on January 02, 2022, 08:36:34 PM
Ted, the main bracket in the bottom photo looks like the correct one for your 400 but I don't recognise the rectangular plate with 4 bolts.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 02, 2022, 09:09:10 PM
Ted, the main bracket looks like the correct one for your 400 but I don't recognise the rectangular plate with 4 bolts.

I've removed the rectangular plate as it seems a bit ott looks just like Allan's mounting in his second photo with it removed.



Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: rosco on January 03, 2022, 03:25:24 PM
Hi Ted
        Just checked the bracket on my motad system and its the same as photo one  Two bolts to silencer  one bolt to frame
        Hope this helps
       Ross
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 03, 2022, 09:55:11 PM
Hi Ted
        Just checked the bracket on my motad system and its the same as photo one  Two bolts to silencer  one bolt to frame
        Hope this helps
       Ross

Hi Ted, sorry for radio silence, had a hell of a day having diabetic issues and just haven't had the urge to get outside.......basically feeling really rough all last night and today topped off by the mother of all hypo's early this morning :-[. Needless to say I hobbled out half an hour ago tohave a look and indeed the fittings on whats left of mine are the same as yours and as described above.  If you need a spare bracket I'll post it up to you before the scrap pile gets liberated to the van back and the merchants.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 04, 2022, 12:39:14 AM
PCR test negative for both of us.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Bryanj on January 04, 2022, 02:19:57 AM
Thats good Ted, weare 3 miles from a centreand doc wantswife to test, nearest available  300 mle round trip!
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 04, 2022, 12:00:07 PM
Thats good Ted, weare 3 miles from a centreand doc wantswife to test, nearest available  300 mle round trip!


Be easier to just get a PCR test kit posted out - at the test centres here you do your own swab anyway. Then post using the priority post boxes all details are in the test kit. You cN order the kits free online or ring 119
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 04, 2022, 05:13:15 PM
If you're struggling Bryan, I can send you one,we've heaps.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Oddjob on January 04, 2022, 06:28:33 PM
If you're struggling Bryan, I can send you one,we've heaps.

What? A wife?
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 04, 2022, 06:44:26 PM
I think he's doing ok tbh ;D

Besides, how very dare you I havent got one! ;D ;D
Title: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 04, 2022, 07:42:10 PM
Hi all

Hope you are all well

Thought I was getting on top of my back operation and now got a viral infection

Had a meeting via zoom with my surgeon and Interesting both the doc that checked me out today for possible sepsis and my surgeon and doctor both said go straight to a PCR test as lateral flow tests are not detecting Omicron very well

Luckily in Swindon there is a big test centre and booked it at 10am and test all done by 12pm

All I can say I feel like sh1t at the moment

Best wishes Al


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 04, 2022, 08:13:43 PM
Ah, Allan, thats a bugger mate :-\!

Interesting what you said about the advice from the docs. The long Haired General works in the healthcare system and she knew nothing about that one in the slightest and just had it confirmed by a collegue. Interesting stuff.

Sorry to hear you're not having an easy one mate. Bestest thoughts being sent via the 'ether' Al, take care mate.

Here's a porn link to aid you're recovery ;) :o 8)

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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 04, 2022, 08:28:11 PM
Al, it sounds like you may need a Nurse 😊😊😊😊😊Take it easy and I hope you feel better soon.
Title: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 04, 2022, 08:28:25 PM
Ah, Allan, thats a bugger mate :-\!

Interesting what you said about the advice from the docs. The long Haired General works in the healthcare system and she knew nothing about that one in the slightest and just had it confirmed by a collegue. Interesting stuff.

Sorry to hear you're not having an easy one mate. Bestest thoughts being sent via the 'ether' Al, take care mate.

Here's a porn link to aid you're recovery ;) :o 8)

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Thanks Roo

Hopefully is just a viral infection and not Covid-19 but my surgeon said need to rule this out first

Once we know then we can plan as due to op and now this not allowed the booster yet 

Just need look after myself and surgeon said once we know the PCR test result we can then plan as if it is a negative result he will arrange a appointment to check what wrong )blood tests etc to see what I have caught as my wife is a bit concerned as it may be sepsis or another blood infection

Oh the joy of being private

Also thanks for the 2t bike porn but the way I feel at the moment may need one of these instead

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Best wishes Al


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 04, 2022, 08:39:44 PM
Hi Roo

Talking about 2t toys you I currently have under a dust sheet

Need to “finish” the CB400F in 2022 and then need to dig deep and crack on with this

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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 04, 2022, 08:44:08 PM
Al, it sounds like you may need a Nurse Take it easy and I hope you feel better soon.
Thanks Julie

Best wishes Al


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Oddjob on January 05, 2022, 12:18:07 AM
You look ever so familiar Al, you ever worked in the North West?
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 05, 2022, 12:24:51 AM
Hi Roo

Talking about 2t toys you I currently have under a dust sheet

Need to “finish” the CB400F in 2022 and then need to dig deep and crack on with this

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I love that, the frame is wicked. Looking forward to seeing you fiddle with that


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: philward on January 06, 2022, 12:12:52 PM
Is that a tiny bike or are you a HUGE man Alan! (always fancied building a big engined Mito as a track bike as they are so small - but will never get round to it as prices have flown up for both Mito's and big single engines)
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 06, 2022, 12:21:50 PM
Is that a tiny bike or are you a HUGE man Alan! (always fancied building a big engined Mito as a track bike as they are so small - but will never get round to it as prices have flown up for both Mito's and big single engines)
No it’s a  small Tigcraft super mono race frame that the PO had modified by Dave Pierce ( Tigcraft) to take a LC engine

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At the moment its just a roller and next problems to sort are exhaust and rad as room is very limited

Exhaust should be no issue but to solve cooling issues thinking of selling the PV engine and fitting a LC bottom end with RD 250 AC barrels

Need to finish CB400F first then crack on with this after


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 06, 2022, 12:23:56 PM
You look ever so familiar Al, you ever worked in the North West?
Hi Oddjob

No you must have me mixed up with someone else

Best wishes Al


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 07, 2022, 06:13:39 AM
 Not seeing any of these last few pictures just a small green icon in top left corner and a big blank square?
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 07, 2022, 07:28:08 AM
Try a different pc or browser Ted.
Sometimes they get their knickers in a twist (IT term )

I see them fine.


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Oddjob on January 07, 2022, 04:40:51 PM
You look ever so familiar Al, you ever worked in the North West?
Hi Oddjob

No you must have me mixed up with someone else

Best wishes Al


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Maybe you have a double, they reckon everyone does. My missus reckons I look like Jasper Carrot for some reason, never see it myself. George Clooney yes.
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 07, 2022, 05:18:37 PM
You look ever so familiar Al, you ever worked in the North West?
Hi Oddjob

No you must have me mixed up with someone else

Best wishes Al


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Maybe you have a double, they reckon everyone does. My missus reckons I look like Jasper Carrot for some reason, never see it myself. George Clooney yes.


 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 07, 2022, 08:00:56 PM
Hi All

Nowt to do with Teds exhaust but thanks for all the kind words

Got a negative for the PCR but seen surgeon today and he confirmed got a bacterial infection from the back surgery so  on a course of antibiotics to hopefully sort out the infection

Catch up soon all

Best wishes Al


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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: Laverdaroo on January 07, 2022, 08:02:42 PM
Get em down yer ;D
Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: allankelly1 on January 07, 2022, 08:05:25 PM
Get em down yer ;D



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Title: Re: Motad exhuast mounting brackets on a 400/4
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on January 08, 2022, 10:47:02 AM
Try a different pc or browser Ted.
Sometimes they get their knickers in a twist (IT term )

I see them fine.


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I can see them on my phone OK but PC not?

Update: Now have pics om both yeah!
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