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Title: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: SteveW on January 25, 2018, 08:37:32 PM
Just getting my CB550 ready for its MOT, noticed that the previous owner has put a 4.25 wide rear tyre on it.

Seems fit ok, haven't ridden the bike yet due to knackered carbs, electrics etc etc.

Is 4.25 too wide?, I will probably be changing tyres soon, should i go for a 4.0?
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 25, 2018, 08:47:54 PM
Always had 425/85 Tyres on my 500s.


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Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: hairygit on January 25, 2018, 08:48:14 PM
Fitting a 4.25 tyre on the rear was a popular choice back in the day. Don't recall anyone having issues with it, and it raises the gearing very slightly and makes the bike fractionally taller, but it won't be a problem unless you're a shortarse like Mrs Hairy, or a certain member on here with a green 750!

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Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: SteveW on January 25, 2018, 08:53:57 PM
Thanks guys  :)
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: Johnwebley on January 25, 2018, 09:36:59 PM
I fit a 4.00
That is already 2 sizes bigger than the 3.50 standard for the 500

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Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: Bryanj on January 26, 2018, 07:14:29 AM
4.00 x 18 is English size and 4,25/85 x 18 Metrisish and both sizes are really the same (550 came with 400 x 18)
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: matthewmosse on January 26, 2018, 08:14:47 AM
I think the widest tyre I had was a 500/15 that I picked up on a custom rim, that just about fitted cold but rubbed the torque arm sometimes on the move. I suspect going that wide on a stock rim would bunch the tyre up and not be safe....
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: Moorey on January 26, 2018, 09:52:33 AM
4.00 x 18 is English size and 4,25/85 x 18 Metrisish and both sizes are really the same (550 came with 400 x 18)

Where is the Metrisish bit, isn't 4.25 = 4.1/4 inch 85 is tyre wall size as a % of tyre width and 18 the wheel diameter in inches.  So isn't  a 4.25 wider than a 4.00 .  Sometimes another 1/4" can make all the difference or am I wrong.
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: MrDavo on January 26, 2018, 11:09:14 AM
The early CB750 I had in the 70's came with an oversize back tyre, 4.25 TT100 I think, coupled with Girling shocks that may have been on the long side (I didn't know any better to find out / go back to standard) it snaked like a pig (if pigs can snake) at high speeds, I got rid after a couple of near terminal experiences, it put me off big Hondas for years.

The K1 I have now has bog stock tyre and shock sizes, and doesn't wobble at all.
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: K2-K6 on January 26, 2018, 11:21:06 AM
Isn't 4.25  decimal expression of inches, so a sort of hybrid rather than fractions of an inch as would be usual?

So decimal being base ten does make it metrinch-ish by combining the two  :)

It's a real hotchpotch even now with tyres all still having imperial sized rim diameter, plus metric width,  plus % aspect ratio as moorey states.
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: Seabeowner on January 26, 2018, 04:05:18 PM
Yes and the rim is 1.85" wide just add to the mix.
Always used 4.25/85 in years of old. The 85% profile coincidentally means the gearing is virtually unchanged,
Standard tyre was 3.50 on 500, 3.75 on 550.
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: Tomb on January 26, 2018, 04:14:05 PM
I use a 120/90 rear on my 500, it works really well - if you want to go totally metric.

Its close but clear of the torque arm though I am using a Dresda box section arm if that makes any difference.
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: peterengland on January 26, 2018, 05:57:22 PM
No, it's fine
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: Green1 on January 26, 2018, 07:12:47 PM
Just to let you know I have a 400x18 on my 550 and 750 and can reach the floor easily even though I am a wee bit shorter then you freakishly tall people.
Super Moto boots help a little on the 750  ;)
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 26, 2018, 07:35:08 PM
Do these “super” boots have high heels then?


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Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: K2-K6 on January 26, 2018, 07:57:03 PM
Perhaps a Cuban heel?
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: Bryanj on January 27, 2018, 01:16:24 AM
4.10 x 19 front and 4.25/85 x 18 rear TT100's were what Dunlop recommended for both 500 and 750 and the Girling shocks were the same for both so at least one of them was an incorrect length
Title: Re: Is a 4.25 rear tyre too big?
Post by: MrDavo on January 27, 2018, 10:36:14 AM
My problems probably weren't helped by being too tight / stupid to replace the TT100 as the profile went off, because there was still plenty of tread left.
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