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Title: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: stevush on August 01, 2016, 06:18:50 PM
As above wanted please for CB400F. Must have all three lugs intact and be good condition. I have a tatty one already with broken lugs, looking for something better.

Thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Chris400F on August 01, 2016, 08:59:34 PM
Steve at 400fourbits (http://www.400fourbits.co.uk/) has an assembly that is decent but has been repaired - depends how bad yours is.
Also CB-Four.com do a repro assembly - not cheap and out of stock at the moment anyway.
However the page also notes that the same part is used on the CB 400 F, CB 550 F and K as well CB 750 K7+F1+F2 so you may be able to widen your search.

http://www.cb-four.com/cgi-bin/shop/__Pilot-assy---CB400F-CB550F-K-CB750K7-F1-F2CB400F-CB550F-K-CB750K7-F1-F2__15-0030-17_02.05.html
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Trigger on August 01, 2016, 09:58:07 PM
I have a crate full of those from 550 and 750's. Will have a look to see if they are the same as the 400.
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Trigger on August 02, 2016, 07:26:44 AM
Can't believe how many I have of these but, found a good one out of all the chipped / scratched ones.
Yours for the price of post and a donation to the site.
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: stevush on August 02, 2016, 08:41:52 AM
Agreed Trigger, thanks
PM Sent

Regards
Steve
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Green1 on August 03, 2016, 10:01:34 PM
Ooops havn't donated for awile
So now done  ;)
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 03, 2016, 10:32:19 PM
Do you have another one please Trigger!
I had one on order from DS, they were getting a pattern one from the US but called me today to advise there are no more available and they have no plans to manufacture anymore in the near or distant future  :-[. 
The one I have on 'Project 400/4' is cracked and has two broken lugs, the clocks are now fully restored and need a decent console to fit between them!
Happy to pay, I don't expect a freebie  :)
Dave
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Trigger on August 04, 2016, 07:39:38 AM
Do you have another one please Trigger!
I had one on order from DS, they were getting a pattern one from the US but called me today to advise there are no more available and they have no plans to manufacture anymore in the near or distant future  :-[. 
The one I have on 'Project 400/4' is cracked and has two broken lugs, the clocks are now fully restored and need a decent console to fit between them!
Happy to pay, I don't expect a freebie  :)
Dave

Sorry, but that was the only one I had in good condition. The rest have broken lugs. Did see a nice one at DK the last time I was there, are you aware that they are the same on the CB550 ?
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Piki on August 04, 2016, 04:06:12 PM
A friend of mine has one in good condition(I have it at home) send me a pm if you are interested.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: kent400 on August 04, 2016, 04:52:01 PM
Using the incorrect screws and or over tightening causes broken lugs on these warning light covers. A while back in a few idle moments I tried a repair on one of these covers. It was a scrap one and I never finished a final 'tidy up' on the repair as  I had no intension to use the cover but clearly the repair would work.  Now a replacement is apparently no longer available it might be the only option.

I made some brackets in mouldable plastic and secured them using two part epoxy adhesive. Obviously the technique requires refinement particularly the top lug, the side ones can hardly be seen but the top one needs to tidy. 
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: stevush on August 04, 2016, 08:05:25 PM
Received mine today from Trigger, looks great, very pleased  :)

Cheers
Steve
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 05, 2016, 06:36:03 PM
Once again, what a great site this is:-).
Trigger, thank you for looking and your reply.
Piki, Thank you and PM sent.
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Dave487 on August 09, 2016, 09:15:01 PM
If anyone has all the bits from  broken or cracked ones can I suggest using an adhesive called Sci-grip SG5000-06. This is Toughened Methacrylate and I have used it successfully to repair the attachment lugs on my Yamaha which is made from ABS plastic. It will adhere really well to metal and plastics.
I buy small tubes from Glue Online. its not cheap but I found it worked really well and sets in 5 to 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Trigger on August 20, 2016, 07:34:22 AM
Another one if anyone is looking >>>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-Cb400-cb550-clocks-dash-warning-light-L1-/142090535783?hash=item2115418367:g:SVEAAOSwMtxXtrzi
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: kent400 on August 20, 2016, 02:26:55 PM
Looks like the cover is secured by csk wood screws rather than cross head ones and it looks like the top lug is split. The original screws are special ones designed for plastic their part number is: 9390224280 available from Silvers and they are black passivated. Silvers listing states they are 6x10 but that's confusing, well it is to me! Whilst the thread length is 6mm the head size is a number 8 I think. Maybe someone has a better knowledge of screw sizes as I've been asked for these on quite a few occasions and usually when they have found the are 63p each from Silvers. Add to that the P&P and it gets a bit excessive for 3 screws. To that end I'm trying to source screws of the correct type and no doubt they would be like 10p each if a box were bought. Anyone have any idea where to start looking? Incidentally quite a few other SOHC bikes use this console.
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 20, 2016, 07:00:46 PM
Looks like the cover is secured by csk wood screws rather than cross head ones and it looks like the top lug is split. The original screws are special ones designed for plastic their part number is: 9390224280 available from Silvers and they are black passivated. Silvers listing states they are 6x10 but that's confusing, well it is to me! Whilst the thread length is 6mm the head size is a number 8 I think. Maybe someone has a better knowledge of screw sizes as I've been asked for these on quite a few occasions and usually when they have found the are 63p each from Silvers. Add to that the P&P and it gets a bit excessive for 3 screws. To that end I'm trying to source screws of the correct type and no doubt they would be like 10p each if a box were bought. Anyone have any idea where to start looking? Incidentally quite a few other SOHC bikes use this console.

I think they are 'thread-forming' screws for plastics Peter. These are not the correct ones but the thread form is probably what's needed. think one tradename is 'Plastite' 1st link is available on request in black but unsure about black passivated zinc or 'Jappaned'

https://www.accu.co.uk/en/874-plastite-30-phillips-countersunk-screws#elasticsearch_id_feature_283610=283610_16&id_elasticsearch_category=874&orderby=ranking&orderway=asc

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/self-tapping-self-drilling-thread-forming-screws/4827483/
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: kent400 on August 21, 2016, 07:12:10 AM
Thanks Ash, I'll take a close look as those. I did find some on another site but a minimum order of 5000 was way too many!

Not bothered about the finish, a spot of black paint on the if BZP.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 21, 2016, 08:13:26 AM
Thanks Ash, I'll take a close look as those. I did find some on another site but a minimum order of 5000 was way too many!

Not bothered about the finish, a spot of black paint on the if BZP.

Thanks again

Gateros plating do sell the black passivate chemicals for zinc  but its a lot more expensive than the the other finishes. Allenchrome near me only do yellow chromate, bright chromate & olive drab finishes to zinc plating unfortunately.
Title: Re: Console (idiot lights) cover wanted
Post by: Trigger on September 08, 2016, 07:48:18 AM
Once again, what a great site this is:-).
Trigger, thank you for looking and your reply.
Piki, Thank you and PM sent.

If you have not found one yet. Here is a link to some new ones >>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB400-F-Warning-Light-Cover-Ignition-Oil-Neutral-CB400f-400-four-/121961554081
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