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CB500/550 / Re: Charging
« on: October 10, 2012, 09:34:45 PM »
Further to my previous post......

Although the battery seemed to hold charge when left overnight it did seem to drain over longer periods and I wasn't convinced that it was sound. I'm fairly sure it isn't the bike draining it but its old so I spunked 40 quid on a new one today (based on Madoc's comment that the charging system is dependant on a decent battery) and ran the tests again. This is what I got -

Ignition off - 12.6v
      "     on - 11.96v
Tick over   -  12.2v
3k rev      -   12.5v
3k & lights -  12.6v

I think this suggests a charging problem? If so where do I start.....

Thanks in advance.

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CB500/550 / Re: Charging
« on: September 19, 2012, 08:25:51 PM »
Hi Madoc/Steve,

It's stood for 24 hrs and is still showing 12.7V. I haven't connected it to the bike yet in case that's draining it for some reason (although I don't think it is).  So it seems the battery is ok, should I run those tests again or can we go from here?

Thanks for your help.

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CB500/550 / Re: Charging
« on: September 18, 2012, 12:52:46 PM »
Thanks Steve, battery already on charge as per Madoc advice will check it when i get home but it sounds like it's knackered anyway. I'll pick up a new one and run the tests again and re-post the results.

Thanks again.

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CB500/550 / Re: Charging
« on: September 15, 2012, 06:26:22 PM »
OK I will.

Thanks!

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CB500/550 / Re: Charging
« on: September 15, 2012, 12:14:41 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone.

Steve, this is the sort of step by step idiot guide I was hoping for, so here are the figures

1. 12V
2. 11.25V
3. 11.60V (fluctuating)
4. 11.78V (fluctuating)
5. 12.26V (fluctuating)

Incidently, when the battery gets low if I turn the lights on at tickover the bike looses ignition and stops running and all the console lights go out. A press of the starter button seems to get them back and then it will start on the kick, I'm not sure if this a related fault or not.........

Thanks again.

Tristan

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CB500/550 / Charging
« on: September 12, 2012, 10:24:46 PM »
Hi, I have a CB550/4 k1 which is in unrestored condition but running nicely. I've ironed out a few problems over the summer including an irritating oil leak. The trouble I have now is a lack of charge, it's been like this since I had it but is going to be an issue with the shorter days now as I need the lights.

If there was a class for Motorcycle Electics I'd definitely be in 'Remedial' so I'm not anticipating an easy fix for this. I've looked through the manual and other posts but am still not clear on any of it. The battery seems to hold its charge when the bike is doing nothing and will seemingly charge on long fast motorway runs. Normal day to day stuff and it completely discharges.

If anyone here could give me a step by step diagnosis to start with that would be great and if you can avoid talking about flux capacitors and so on that would be even better. Thank you.

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CB500/550 / Re: Advice appreciated
« on: March 21, 2012, 01:49:43 PM »
Did they improve the clutch Lester?

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CB500/550 / Re: Advice appreciated
« on: March 21, 2012, 01:23:50 PM »
Thanks Florence - it slips on quick revvy changes, I'd assumed it was worn plates or springs but haven't inspected it yet. I'm suprised to hear you say that they all are prone to a bit of hard revving slippage, I thought the clutches were supposed to be particularly good on the 550's? Are the heavier springs easy to source?

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CB500/550 / Re: Advice appreciated
« on: March 20, 2012, 06:44:04 PM »
I thought that was the case , thanks Bryan.

The new filter turned up today, I fitted it, predictably it wasn't a perfect fit, the gas scavenging tube had to be shortened to get the filter to seal against the carb air intake. Anyway as soon as I rode up the drive I knew things were better, it had warmed up by the time I got off the lanes and on to a decent bit of tarmac and then the improvement was clear, it ripped up through the gears feeling and sounding like a new bike, I even stinked an unsuspecting Pan European. It's running perfectly now and I can't believe how well i goes or how easier a fix it was, things rarely go so easily for me!

Thanks again for all the advice,  ironically I don't think the painful throttle will be such a problem now it is actually responding.

Just a slipping clutch to sort now.


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CB500/550 / Re: Advice appreciated
« on: March 19, 2012, 07:23:43 AM »
Glad my original post has sparked some lively debate, thanks for the advice - all of which is useful.

On the subject of insurance I also have a '92 TDM bored out to 898 and with so many modifications it is unrecognisable as a TDM (thankfully) including FZR1000 swing arm and wheel, Aprilla RS250 seat hump, flat slides, high level Renegade cans and so on and even with these declared the insurance wasn't much more than the CB. I think it is always better to declare mods as the amount of interest the insurance company take in the bike will depend on the size of the claim, if you've ploughed in to a line of bystanders at 80mph (God forbid) it would be reassuring to know that at least your insurance is valid.

As for the bike, I ha vent yet run it without a filter or with a new one when it finally turns up but I did take the old one out. I was mildly surprised to find that what I now know to be the 'gas scavenging device' had a plastic cap over the end of the steel tube. It looks like the sort of thing that would be removed on fitting. I can't imagine this is connected to the running problem as surely the engine breathes sufficiently through the filter but I'm also sure this cap shouldn't be there - any ideas?

Thanks again.

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CB500/550 / Re: Advice appreciated
« on: March 15, 2012, 08:43:52 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone. I'll whip the filter out tomorrow and try it, seems too simple for my luck but you never know. If not I'll try the plug chop and see what that shows. The flooding float chamber sounds like a possibility, it's had new plugs etc. It's still running on the original 4-4 exhaust but they are tired and patched. I need to decide on a suitable replacement as not sure i can stretch to the Dave Silver 600 quid OE replacements (any opinions). That wouldn't be effecting things presumably?

As for the throttle - there seems to be varied opinion on this, the strange thing is I've got a TDM and when compared with the CB it doesn't seem to be much difference, both have double cables too. The TDM has soft rubber grips though. I accept that it might be down to technique and will give what Matthew suggests a go,  but don't think it is just a case of getting used to it, I've had plenty of bikes but never had this problem. The wife rides it too and can't see her enjoying the ride with this set up. That gadget that Totty suggested might do for her.

Thanks again everyone who has replied- I'll update later.


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CB500/550 / Advice appreciated
« on: March 14, 2012, 08:59:54 PM »
Hi, I have recently acquired a CB550 k1 as a rolling (light) renovation project. Initial impressions of the bike have been good but I hoped to benefit from the combined wisdom of forum members regarding a couple of pressing issues, I'm not hugely mechanically knowledgeable.

The first is a running problem which I think is a misfire noticeable from about 3000 revs up. Having just returned from a 120 mile round trip the problem was most noticeable on the motorway where max possible speed was about 60mph (speedo wavering between 40 and 80mph), engine sounded lumpy especially up-hill where lack of power was very noticeable, you know things aren't going well when you re overtaken by a string of artics. Fuel consumption was poor (30 odd mpg). At low revs performance isn't noticeably effected and she can be coxed up to red line without too much trouble in low gears. Starting is always great, single kick hot or cold, tick over isn't bad but engine has to be fully warm for it to settle. I'm not sure if it's relevent but it only needs choke for a few seconds when cold, and on inspection this evening the plugs are a little sooty. I put some premium unleaded in it and for a while it seemed to run a bit better but soon went back to it's bad ways. I know it could be a hundred things but if anyone has got any suggestions of where I should start I'd be grateful. It has had a recent service, still waiting for a new air filter bu the existing one has had a blow through.

The second less important problem (if anyone's still reading) is the throttle control. Despite being free moving, gripping and holding the throttle open for more than five minutes at a time is cramp inducing agony. Not sure if its down to the shiny hard grip or if there is any other means of improving things. It doesn't sound much of a problem but I'm not exaggerating when I say it made the long ride flipping hard work, especially coupled with the lack of power.

Thanks

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