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Hope to get on further with the engine rebuild shortly, but on stripping I noticed some seals seem to have been "clamped in when fitting" evident by the significant oozing of the plastic profile of the seal protruding inside the case. This would make it almost impossible to extract a seal  without splitting the casings.

OR

Should they all be pressed in externally after mating the casings.

Interested on your thoughts. :-\

Dennis

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Hi Guys,
I mentioned when congratulating Nurse Julie on her Engine Rebuild thread, and on my "Splitting the crankcase problem" thread, that I was was going to investigate a mechanical "Screech" sound that lasted for several seconds after resarting the bike while it was warmed up after my second ride.

My hunch from my experience, was that it sounded like the main bearings were tight and could seize up if not rectified.

Recent History
The PO had carried out a full engine rebuild with the majority of work done by an engine specialist (THIS WAS NOT TRIG AND JULIE I must emphasise), just leaving the PO to do final assembly. This work was done in 2015 and the engine has run 3000miles since. Advice on which shell sizes to use on which journals was made by the specialist.

Having experienced the noise I consulted the PO who thought it might be the timing chain adjustment, but this "Screech" sound was far too solid and friction sounding to ignore. I decided NOT to run the engine again and do a full strip and inspection.

Having just split the casings and inspected the journals and shells it looks as though the centre bearing has been the main offender with journals 2 and 4 not far behind. See photos. In the order of 1 to 5.

It was noticeable that 2,3 and 4 had little oil film on the crank or the shell (oil squeezed out due to lack of clearance)and you will see the highly polished face on these journals and shells. Compare these with 1 and 5 which are relatively unpolished and wet with oil, showing  that a good hydrodynamic film of oil was  present to "float the bearings" 1 and 5 rather than grip them.

I think this has only shown up because of the heat sinking and oil draining from the heads and barrels after a ride causing the extra heat transfer and differential expansion on these components at the time, and the fact I started the engine again shortly after.

Journals 2,3 and 4 will now come under closer scrutiny with Plastigauge measurement to see the actual clearance measurement.

To be continued as time allows.

Dennis

PS my next post will show the Shells 1 to 5
 

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Hi Guys,

Having experienced a significant "Screech" noise from the unit for some 7 or 8 seconds after returning from my second ride after purchasing the bike, I was reluctant to run it any more without proper investigation.  It sounded much like a tight crank main bearing to me. So to ignore it and carry on using it seemed a bad idea. The unit was rebuilt by PO about 3000 miles ago.

I have got to the final stages of stripping and seperating the crankcases.  The Hondabond seal is broken and the cases have moved apart about 4mm.

The problem I have is that ONE SIDE of the final drive sprocket shaft (the side where the sprocket shaft comes though the case)  and the shaft in front (with blanking plug), both insist on clinging to the bottom half of the case, while everything else sits on the upper half as I pull the cases apart - hence the bottom case will not lift off. I have tapped gently to see if the seal and bearing were just "gripping" the bottom half with friction, but it will not seperate.

Is there anything I have missed ?

Appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks   :-\

Dennis

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Hi guys, I am looking and wondering if there is a reference list to cover all the "O" rings and seals needed for the Engine Trans unit. I am trying not to make assumptions about what is included/ excluded in gasket sets etc, although there is a sealed bag full of "O" rings.

From all the rebuilds you have carried out between you, there is lot of experience of  Which things are included AND Which things need to be ordered seperately. There are odd things like the starter motor O ring etc I wanted to include

The bike I purchase recently has a few minor oil leaks to deal with, so I have decide to do a full strip and inspection so I know the full internal condition.

To have this info available woud be most helpful prior to ordering, also knowing best where they can be obtained and  which brands are reliable and those to avoid.

Cheers  ;)

Dennis

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New Member Introductions / Hello from Shropshire UK
« on: March 25, 2021, 07:06:13 PM »
Hi Guys,
Its nice to meet you all and I look forward to participating in forum activities.

I am a retired Automotive Engineer and have had interests in Motorbike since 1956  the age of 12.  I used to save my pocket money hard and managed to get an old Norton 500sv ex WD and taught myself to ride up and down our long garden path. Very soon my father managed to get permission from a local farmer for me and my friend to thash our bike around one of his fields and lanes.

Then I started the wheeling and dealing with my mates and I swopped for Royal Enfield 225sv, then sold that and bought a 1937 Rudge 500 four valve single ohv. Now at 14, it was this bike that got me seriously interested in stripping and rebuilding/modifying. Had great fun with this bike and wish I had kept it for later years.

I subsequently got into, got qualified and progressed through the motor trade and Automotive Engineering.

I have now rekindled my interest in bikes in the last 4 years, and started with a 1939 Velocette GTP, a bike which held great charm for many years. Solidly built, but lightweight, 250cc two stroke, with pressure fed oil and twin exhaust ports. These things were advanced in their day and will run forever.

Over the last few months I have been looking for and recently found my 1979 CB 400/4 with a Cafe Racer spin. This has recently undergone a major engine rebuild at D&M Engineering Honda Specialists and also had many new and upgraded mods fitted by the previous owner. I am looking forward to continuing the work on the bike to get it where I would like it to be. I admire the the advanced design for its day and the quality of Honda engineering.

Looking forward to getting on my  learing curve with this bike with you guys, and fettling what ever is neeeded.

Cheers  ;)

Dennis



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