Honda-SOHC
Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: royhall on March 09, 2018, 06:34:21 PM
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As my POS timing light has decided to be working sometimes and sometimes not, I need a replacement of good quality. Am looking at one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SP8000-Ignition-Timing-strobe-Lamp-light-with-digital-advance-and-Rev-counter/182940061390?epid=12002713091&hash=item2a9813cece:g:amcAAOSwgY9Xc5ih (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SP8000-Ignition-Timing-strobe-Lamp-light-with-digital-advance-and-Rev-counter/182940061390?epid=12002713091&hash=item2a9813cece:g:amcAAOSwgY9Xc5ih)
Anybody used one, are they worth the money. Cheers all.
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Be aware the rec counter wont be accurate and not sure about the digital timing
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That is toooo much £££ for a strobe light. I am sure the last time I was visiting Watford classic cars, that they had them for less than a 20 pound note ;)
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I have one similar,but not with rev counter and advance gadget
it has a bright light ,can see the making on the Honda
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I bought the basic model of that make - never worked! Need one myself shortly when I buy my electronic ignition
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Hi All,
I too bought the cheaper version, basically dead as a do-do from day one, a few odd flashes when turning the engine over, dead once started.
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I guess I wont be buying that then..... Any recommends for a good make and model, it appears to be the inductive pickup that's the problem with a lot of these strobes?....... What make is that sub £20 one Trig.
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This is the one I use Roy, works a treat.
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tut, forgot the link, senior moment ::)
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tut, forgot the link, senior moment ::)
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Strangely that's the very one I am replacing. Works about 1 in 3 flashes and sometimes not at all. When the engines revving away merrily to strobe electronic ignition the last thing you need is an iffy strobe lamp. The CB350F boyer ignition has to be strobed at 5000rpm, and the GS1000 at 2500rpm so it's best to get a move on.
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I have my original strobe I had from the early 70s that was used in series in HT circuit - still works but not very clear strobe image ((I'm not as clear as I was in the early 70s!) - can you still get that type as not sure if it's the clip on HT lead connection that's the issue with the intermittent strobe image?
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As they say in Private Eye - WELL FANCY THAT!
I've just fitted the Newtronic ignition I bought from Trevor (firet49) so I bought this one (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/S8000-AccuSpark-Professional-Timing-Light-Timing-lamp-Ignition-strobe-lamp/121522280680?hash=item1c4b4ad8e8:g:mEUAAOSwiIxaEZS4).
It was £12.95 +£4.95 postage when I got it and the £19.95 postage in the current listing I assume is incorrect. Anyway, it works OK. Pick up is a little sensitive but I managed to get a good strobe even on 2/3.
I think it's one up from the cheapest. Does one need a rev-counter? F mark lines up when idle, advance mark lines up at 3k. Do we need more? Won't see much use in my case.
Electronic ignition itself seems great. I know people say points will never let you down etc etc, but, really, fed up with always fiddling with it ... ???
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I have the accuspark 8000 and it does the job perfectly well, as for points and condensers when mine start to get a bit naff on the 350 it will be electronic ignition straight away, can't be doing with any faffing around, and as buying points and condensers is a bit like an unlucky dip where quality is concerned now, i would rather have the modern reliability of electronic ignition.
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That is toooo much £££ for a strobe light. I am sure the last time I was visiting Watford classic cars, that they had them for less than a 20 pound note ;)
Indeed. This looks like the best deal out there:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AccuSpark-Professional-S8000-Ignition-Strobe-Timing-Lamp-Light-/331737007734?hash=item4d3d110676
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That is toooo much £££ for a strobe light. I am sure the last time I was visiting Watford classic cars, that they had them for less than a 20 pound note ;)
Indeed. This looks like the best deal out there:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AccuSpark-Professional-S8000-Ignition-Strobe-Timing-Lamp-Light-/331737007734?hash=item4d3d110676 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AccuSpark-Professional-S8000-Ignition-Strobe-Timing-Lamp-Light-/331737007734?hash=item4d3d110676)
Looking at comments made elsewhere about this strobe, it still has the same problems as others mainly the inductive pickup can be very hit and miss. This is the same problem that I have with my existing Draper unit. Makes an easy 5 minute job into half an hour of frustrating fiddling. Have now bought a secondhand Gunson strobe that the reviews say has a rock solid pickup. When I get it, I will report back how good (or crap) it is. Same as this one but better condition https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GUNSONS-12-V-DC-TIMESTROBE-XENON-TIMING-LIGHT-AND-INDUCTIVE-PICK-UP/382399864099?hash=item5908cedd23:g:UF0AAOSwnHZYl0MQ
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Glad it's not just me that can't get one of those things to work, I still use my battery and torch light bulb to set up the timing.
Cheers
Dennis
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That is toooo much £££ for a strobe light. I am sure the last time I was visiting Watford classic cars, that they had them for less than a 20 pound note ;)
Indeed. This looks like the best deal out there:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AccuSpark-Professional-S8000-Ignition-Strobe-Timing-Lamp-Light-/331737007734?hash=item4d3d110676 (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AccuSpark-Professional-S8000-Ignition-Strobe-Timing-Lamp-Light-/331737007734?hash=item4d3d110676)
Looking at comments made elsewhere about this strobe, it still has the same problems as others mainly the inductive pickup can be very hit and miss. This is the same problem that I have with my existing Draper unit. Makes an easy 5 minute job into half an hour of frustrating fiddling. Have now bought a secondhand Gunson strobe that the reviews say has a rock solid pickup. When I get it, I will report back how good (or crap) it is. Same as this one but better condition https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GUNSONS-12-V-DC-TIMESTROBE-XENON-TIMING-LIGHT-AND-INDUCTIVE-PICK-UP/382399864099?hash=item5908cedd23:g:UF0AAOSwnHZYl0MQ
I had one of those Gunson ones, and it was also very hit and miss, threw it in the bin and got the Accuspark which has been a lot more reliable, but then they are all made cheaply abroad with lousy quality control, you either get a good or a bad one no matter what brand.
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Been reading loads of feedback from various places before I got another. It appears that all the inductive ones are a bit hit and miss whatever the make. Whenever I think I have found a reliable one, someone always reports back that their one was crap. What about the expensive ones like Snap On, are they any good. Don't mind paying out as long as I never have to buy another. Probably all Chinese s**t like everything else you buy these days. A whole nation who's entire output is just millions of tons of Landfill a year. Sorry, it's turning into a rant again.
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That Accuspark S8000 is the one I have that didn't work at all - is there any about that use the strobe HT inline rather than using clip on induction - maybe that's the issue!
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That Accuspark S8000 is the one I have that didn't work at all - is there any about that use the strobe HT inline rather than using clip on induction - maybe that's the issue!
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They also get bad reviews Phil. Loose connections on the plug and leads with the same intermittent result. Also no way to reach plugs 2&3 without some home-made extension lead. The new ones all appear to use the same rectangular pickup component. It's that causing the issues, some are made well others not. That's why I'm trying the Gunson as there are very few complaints. That was until Kev chipped in with the bad news.
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Been reading loads of feedback from various places before I got another. It appears that all the inductive ones are a bit hit and miss whatever the make. Whenever I think I have found a reliable one, someone always reports back that their one was crap. What about the expensive ones like Snap On, are they any good. Don't mind paying out as long as I never have to buy another. Probably all Chinese s**t like everything else you buy these days. A whole nation who's entire output is just millions of tons of Landfill a year. Sorry, it's turning into a rant again.
Roy - I picked up a MAC strobe light a couple of years ago on eBay second hand. It's a superb piece of kit - wasn't cheap but will last me until I’m old and wrinkly I suspect...
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S/H Snap-on timing light on ebay Roy. It's up for £10, reportedly in good working order. It might be worth a punt. Item number 112854110548.
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Thanks for that eBay link, will give it a go. Hopefully I won't be bidding against anyone on here now they have all seen the link. :D
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Did you win the Snap On Strobe Roy? (I didn't bid because I knew you were interested) - bought an old school Gibson (none induction clamp)
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I did Phil. I won it at £19.90p which as long as it works is a bargain. Not got it yet will let you know.
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Well done Roy. A real bargain if it all works OK.
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I was in the garage yesterday, i looked up and hanging off a rafter is my old gunson, thought i had binned it, i will take the pick up off and modify it to see if it works better.
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I bought the secondhand Gunson as well Kev. Will be trying it out today so will let you know. One of them has to work surely.
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Been in the garage today to finally set the timing on the GS1000 now both my new (used) strobes have arrived. Got the timing set okay with my existing Draper lamp that has decided to have a good day today. As for the used Snap-On and Gunson, they are both dead as a nail. Bloody rip off eBayers, they will be going straight back. Why do they bother to sell broken kit as working, they know they are coming back?