Post by: Laverdaroo on July 13, 2023, 10:24:41 AM
The first time in 21 years Rosey has stopped a journey through failure!
Just got through Boston Spa, opened her up on the nice fat A road and a plug gave up and she started to pop on 3!!! Bugger.
Limped 22miles home on three pots and currently trying to find 4 plugs to get her fettled for the long ride home. Naturally these are the hardest plugs in the world to find unless you want to spend £29.40 each on them
………..nope not I!Found three, just need one more!
Bit of a worry as it’s either a plug or a coil……. Hoping on the former rather than the latter but a poke about will no doubt identify the issue……..fingers crossed!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230713/44a1f08dff553fae8d89d2ee151e64e0.jpg)
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Post by: Oddjob on July 13, 2023, 01:07:19 PM
Speedo would have been an optional extra on the Sunbeam
It had been fitted Bryan, first thing I spotted was the drive gear inside the front hub, the cover is missing as you can see and it showed signs of being fitted but then removed. Same for where the speedo used to sit, signs of it being there. I concluded it was away being refurbished but he still wanted to ride the bike.
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 13, 2023, 01:33:13 PM
Just getting into it now. But running on three, soon as you open it slightly, it bangs like crazy from the pot suspected. I reckon either no spark and the unused fuel’s hitting the pipe when hot and popping. That’s coil or plug to start on…….
We’ll see shortly
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Post by: Laverda Dave on July 13, 2023, 03:22:45 PM
Cracking bikes there Ken, the Morini is very sweet, they were always great looking bikes and especially the 350 Sports although twice the price of a Norton Commando when new!
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 13, 2023, 04:11:56 PM
Cheers but Boston Spa, North Yorkshire, near Wetherby. Managed to get some plugs at great expense so starting there. I’ll swap the coils round and see if it’s one of them if not plugs but might be as have one cold pipe on number 3 at the back.Aaaah, not Boston, Lincs then 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by: Bryanj on July 13, 2023, 05:33:10 PM
Post by: Sesman on July 13, 2023, 06:39:13 PM
Just got back from Sunderland. Have you got sorted?
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Post by: Nurse Julie on July 13, 2023, 08:15:57 PM
I too wondered exactly where he was Julie, would have been nice if he had been close to youYes, that would have been handy Bryan.
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 13, 2023, 11:10:42 PM
Took the coil pack out and the plug came out with it. It appears. The only time it’s had its plugs changed at a shop was while I was in hospital a couple of years ago, the gorilla tech had caught the thread and slammed the crooked plug into the thread and tightened the coil down onto it. The electrode has arc’d so much it’s melted and sent all the molten shit into the thread. I now have to find a spot where I can pick up an M10 x 1.0 metric fine tap tmrw to try to get a plug down far enough into decent thread to catch and seat properly. The heads got to come off anyway so I’ll get it sorted but just need to lump it home for Sunday mornin. My pal here has donated his MT09 for parts chasing bless him
Check that out for a hammered plug!
It’s some 750’s Dave but all the Fi and VTEC up to 09
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 13, 2023, 11:47:17 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 13, 2023, 11:49:38 PM
I’m conscious I’ve hijacked the thread somewhat, apologies…..
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Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on July 14, 2023, 07:47:50 AM
Quite a few VFR enthusiasts on here.
Mine was an 800Fi-1 (Y Plate). My first “modern” bike.
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Post by: Laverda Dave on July 14, 2023, 07:51:17 AM
Start a new one Roo.
Quite a few VFR enthusiasts on here.
Mine was an 800Fi-1 (Y Plate). My first “modern” bike.
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Snap! I've had one ever since apart from a spell with its so-called successor, the Triumph ST1050 that was nowhere near a good as a VFR :(
Post by: Sesman on July 14, 2023, 07:55:12 AM
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Post by: K2-K6 on July 14, 2023, 08:50:40 AM
Don't want to disturb too much the thread about John's eating exploits around the country ;D
Though if that plug came out of the head like that, then I doubt there's much there to tap into :o
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 14, 2023, 09:17:45 AM
Worst plug I’ve ever seen tbh!
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Post by: K2-K6 on July 14, 2023, 10:20:07 AM
I think I’ll be lucky to get any thread to be honest, I’ll take what I can get in this one I reckon
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Old engineering method, in face of having bugger all correct tools....cut a U shaped V in a plug thread from one end to other. Leaving the sides vertical where they meet the thread top peak. De-burr the thread grooves with small file....you've now a "tapping" plug to use.
Put it in the hole, wind backward until you feel the thread lead drop into engagement with old thread (so you're not out of step on the threads) then start to wind it in slowly to clean out any threads that are there.
Use grease as Bryan says.
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on July 14, 2023, 10:25:20 AM
Agree with Steve, could you put it over on another thread Roo ? We all like to yak about something like this.
I’ll do it, but not from my phone. Back at a PC later.
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Post by: Johnny4428 on July 14, 2023, 01:13:36 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 14, 2023, 02:05:14 PM
Needless to say that’s the summer over for the bikes, can’t afford any of that til later in the year which is a bit depressing. Hopefully I can retrieve my green flag stuff off this phone and try to get it dragged home. Mortally wounded, first time in 20 years………..gutted!
And 300 miles from home
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Post by: taysidedragon on July 14, 2023, 02:35:19 PM
Post by: Oddjob on July 14, 2023, 04:18:47 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/385751347377?hash=item59d09270b1:g:AxoAAOSw1Fpkrks0&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwKJQh4ROPYp1EmASZuJe7Od%2F2g8xhYMbayGKjihIv3CE26tAWlpZ2FrXte23zsn%2BUZfygJ4DRnO7CUHHdFlUmHTwyTgW7iV5bPt2ifDby5d5bBgIACzZHHvB%2BurJOlQArhKGtpTU33tdF0ZknelGI9hMcFsND%2BmhW5JpbkP6e2H9RvDCxPpVGvMQUxxD2uHbFFbenJNkxwgHaRL07HoyUNxgOAv6x%2B5Dii21k3XT7smw3QDcwkjYNdwyLtUCxOIc6Q%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR4SN7M6qYg
Cheap enough, has M10 x 1.00.
If you're not confident of doing the job find an engineer to do it for you. Maybe Matt could help. I'd be very careful using a drill on a plug thread, they have a tendency to suddenly grab and tilt sideways, I found a reamer worked much better. Not sure what size my reamer is as I can't find it ATM, suspect it's either 12 or 14 though. Maybe something like this, drill size is 10.3 for a M10 x 1.00 helicoil. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/234820266622?hash=item36ac60ea7e:g:xzcAAOSwgLJjme34&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwMwrFUBJstzNCqgqDrxI34hI8cQDCU5V72SxHFMIg8AS2K49Op%2FQH6X4JDzVDDcylNIio2RazWvEy4gfs8JFMeT96QKuqRmT%2BGNXyNRVxgo%2FVMIBSLdMni3P6l64229UxVT13L2BgtQyoACQpvJqZ9mktbXb5Xdom8I8FLNrWYgdybdnr8C3qDfia9sQ8GHeRy3VCbm8EvsSvmj6%2BpK2rS4RK%2BDHc9ndszPKamrBijtmtAd7BERtRuRD00t%2BKPEmVA%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_ry1M-qYg
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Post by: Trigger on July 14, 2023, 05:21:38 PM
Sadly she’s dead, there’s no thread to get at to redress under closer inspection and the tap pretty much dropped straight down it. It’s got to be hellicoiled or more than likely an insert putting it in. Can’t try to drill and insert one at that depth, I couldn’t guarentee the results tbh………and it would be gash!
Needless to say that’s the summer over for the bikes, can’t afford any of that til later in the year which is a bit depressing. Hopefully I can retrieve my green flag stuff off this phone and try to get it dragged home. Mortally wounded, first time in 20 years………..gutted!
And 300 miles from home
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There must be a engineering shop in Leeds that can put a insert in for you ;)
Post by: Matt_Harrington on July 14, 2023, 06:03:08 PM
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 14, 2023, 07:33:32 PM
Rode it back to my digs on three pots and she went surprising well apart from the Parp from the air popping out of the plug hole under the coil pack. Got a V3 600!
Does that qualify for Moto GP
?If the monsoons end I may lump it back early in the morning say 3am to reduce the grief but unsure if my mechanical sympathy will stretch that far…….
The LHG’s back from work and going to fetch my insurance details so I can bell recovery off that as I think it’s included on the policy. Due to a phone swap I don’t have copies on my phone like the prat I am
Bit cheesed off as it’s my bike but I’ll sort it by hook or by crook.
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Post by: Trigger on July 14, 2023, 11:16:47 PM
Yeah the heads got to come off and not doing it here, it’ll be too much faff and too far from home for major surgery like that.
Rode it back to my digs on three pots and she went surprising well apart from the Parp from the air popping out of the plug hole under the coil pack. Got a V3 600!
Does that qualify for Moto GP
If the monsoons end I may lump it back early in the morning say 3am to reduce the grief but unsure if my mechanical sympathy will stretch that far…….
The LHG’s back from work and going to fetch my insurance details so I can bell recovery off that as I think it’s included on the policy. Due to a phone swap I don’t have copies on my phone like the prat I am
Bit cheesed off as it’s my bike but I’ll sort it by hook or by crook.
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I would advise not to ride the bike as un burnt fuel will contaminate the oil, the oil will get very weak and damage the good parts of the engine ;)
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Post by: K2-K6 on July 15, 2023, 09:43:45 AM
It may hold, we used to use it to bond aluminium to base plate for milling on non uniform structures, holds really well but complete b'#stard to get it to release afterwards.
If successful, you can just wind the plug out when you need to repair with head off.
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 15, 2023, 10:36:35 AM
As Grahame said not advisable but it's not like you are using it except for a short period. When my 400 was on 2 cylinders for the first 80/100 miles the oil had no petrol smell though I have changed it to be safe.
Not sure how far you are from home but you could ride 100 miles at sensible engine revs then change the oil at every 100 miles.
Beware of fire risks !
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 15, 2023, 10:43:08 AM
Had various offers of support from members and even an offer of collection for fuel. That’s to all, fingers crossed, sorted but it is still daylight
What a fab forum, cheers all xx
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Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on July 16, 2023, 07:41:47 PM
Post by: Bryanj on July 16, 2023, 09:40:18 PM
I fitted 4 to a members 350 and some inserts and taps left if its the same thread
Post by: Moorey on July 17, 2023, 11:58:42 AM
What exactly is your state of play now Roo.
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 17, 2023, 11:23:10 PM
The cost of a timesert and or helicoil which I would never trust in a spark plug hole, (I know they’re ok but it would always be in my mind) plus the crazy price of gaskets would send the repair out of reach at the min at around £200.
The head was £40 delivered!……..no brainer
I have to take the swingarm off, electrics, hoses, the lot and drop the motor to allow access which I’m not looking forward to but planning on swapping heads providing the new one checks out.
Currently chasing head gasket specs and part numbers, they’re not only dear but hard to find even when you have identified which one of the 11 listed you need…….
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Post by: Trigger on July 18, 2023, 07:21:43 AM
I’ve managed to buy a second hand head complete off a 23k bike that’s being broken due to a front end crash.
The cost of a timesert and or helicoil which I would never trust in a spark plug hole, (I know they’re ok but it would always be in my mind) plus the crazy price of gaskets would send the repair out of reach at the min at around £200.
The head was £40 delivered!……..no brainer
I have to take the swingarm off, electrics, hoses, the lot and drop the motor to allow access which I’m not looking forward to but planning on swapping heads providing the new one checks out.
Currently chasing head gasket specs and part numbers, they’re not only dear but hard to find even when you have identified which one of the 11 listed you need…….
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You are over thinking this too much :o I have done thousands on inserts on spark plug threads over the years and never known one to fail.
If it is a hard to get to cylinder , just pop the engine out and take it to a old school engineering shop. They should charge about £50 to do the job.
Any good engineer will know to turn over the engine until the inlet valve is closed, attach a vacuum to the exhaust port and have the job done in 15 minutes ;)
If any engineer wants to use a Helicoil, then don't use them as, a helicoil is only good on blind threads or a thread that is never going to be removed for servicing .
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Post by: K2-K6 on July 18, 2023, 09:37:01 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Bourbon
In this house we have, respectively, the Queen, Prince and Princess of Bourbon, in the great biscuit debates . Me, rather partial to a Scottish biscuit in opposition.
Though I can understand another type of Bourbon late into the night when you look at all those pieces of VF strewn all over ;D
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on July 18, 2023, 09:46:52 AM
Make sure you take plenty of pics Roo for the wiring routes - if it's anything like modern cars the wiring connectors are pretty much impossible to fit incorrectly - beware you do not snap off any of the connector clips they are difficult to replace - some are a bit of a Rubik's Cube to release plus heat makes them brittle.
Post by: Moorey on July 18, 2023, 10:23:56 AM
Yeah, tucked up in the shed while I prepare and research….
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Ok if your sorted. I was a little late to the party sorry.
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 18, 2023, 10:26:19 AM
It’s gonna be a right task but it’ll be done. Waiting eagerly for the replacement head to show up.
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Post by: Oddjob on July 18, 2023, 02:33:30 PM
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/1715942488
Correct type? it's a rear head gasket off a 2002 VFR800, looks odd so probably a VTE version.
Post by: Laverdaroo on July 18, 2023, 09:54:03 PM
That be looks the right one Ken but I need to cross ref the numbers…..
The head came today and apart from being a bit mucky and a spot of crap paint from corrosion, I’m pretty chuffed with that!
£40well spent
Cleaning will commence at the weekend
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Post by: Laverdaroo on July 31, 2023, 12:48:31 AM
So far so good but after 170+miles, the filth on the engine is awful………my OCD alarms are already going off and it’s not even out yet.
No broken fasteners but a few knackered ones that will need to be replaced but
So far, so good.
Front pipes, foot rest hangers, swing arm and shock off and it should be ready to drop out………or fall out, one of the two.
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New head being fitted, saves all that buggering about!…….I hope!
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Post by: Laverdaroo on July 31, 2023, 11:38:51 PM
One necked off bolt sadly, on the other side but everything else is off now and the bike is free swinging from the ceiling ready to have the lump out tomorrow evening with any luck. By far THE most complicated thing I’ve ever worked on and a right challenge but surreptitiously enjoying it………sort of
I am running out of biscuits however!
Bugger
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Post by: Johnny4428 on August 01, 2023, 07:28:44 AM
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 01, 2023, 08:50:38 AM
Got a rally I Sept so it best be. Nice and slow minimises cock ups so that’s the way I’m playing it currently. Back on it tonight
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Post by: taysidedragon on August 01, 2023, 10:27:00 AM
Ha haa, cheers Johnny
Got a rally I Sept so it best be. Nice and slow minimises cock ups so that’s the way I’m playing it currently. Back on it tonight
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I hope it goes well. Get plenty of chocolate hobnobs in. 😋
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 01, 2023, 12:57:39 PM
Impromptu shop visit as it’s next to Halfords whilst buying more carb and brake cleaner.
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Post by: Laverda Dave on August 01, 2023, 01:31:16 PM
Got em
Impromptu shop visit as it’s next to Halfords whilst buying more carb and brake cleaner.
Now that's what I call a unique business opportunity for someone. Open up a biscuit and cake shop next to Halfords and other bloke type shops such as Wicks etc. A sure fire profit earner. Forget the patisserie and latte shops in Westfield, what blokes need are real biscuits, cakes and tea😁.
Sounds like you are making good progress Roo. Like all these jobs there's always the hidden nasties to deal with along the way.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 02, 2023, 12:52:04 AM
There’s actually only one rear mount bolt not as it was written , described as ‘pairs’ of engine mounts, eg, two a side.
It wasn’t until I released the centre ones that the whole lot went down with a thud…..eek!
Had to put a 3rd strop on a further roof support support to move the fulcrum point to bring the two halves together and after a bit of head scratching I sorted it but it put an extra hour and a half on my night
Thought it was going to be a pig and up until that point it was going relatively well. One necked of bolt from the centre stand and the 8mm nut attaching the cable to the starter motor was solid so had to be surgically removed with the Dremel to cut the nut in half but not too bad.
Got to clean the motor off and then the interesting bit starts and I’ll attack the head.
Phew!
Cheers for all the best wishes peeps, really appreciate it
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What a sod Bryan, Anglo Saxon a go-go tonight bud
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Looks like I might be rained off this arvo so might go for a fiddle rather than waste a day……
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 02, 2023, 09:57:02 PM
Progress though
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 13, 2023, 12:24:28 AM
Stripped her down after a bit more homework and some good advice and was pleasantly surprised for once. It is a Honda after all!
I had fears of the pot being holed as someone previously mentioned and I bobbed a camera in there and saw nothing but was still wondering. Anyhoo, took the head off and although you can see where the electrode gave up and hit the pot, there is no damage!
Turned the engine and saw no scores on the bore and still good honing marks so I think I’ve dodged a bullet there!
Still waiting on a head gasket from Japan, on special order but happy to bob it together when it comes with little else engine work except a monster clean and a tickle up. Might push the boat out and bob some new hoses on her but for the most part, quite salvageable I fink. Whoop whoop, the old girl will go on. (Firework. Emoji
)Spot the impact mark and the thread on the plug hole, completely eroded away. I actually think the thread gave up under pressure and the plug hit the top of the pot, knocking the electrode off before it blew the debris straight out of the exhaust. Possibility anyway. The cleaning will begin tomorrow night!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230812/b2520beac62060844c33a28b5bbac624.jpg)
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Post by: Rozabikes Tim on August 13, 2023, 08:43:44 AM
I would say the fact gasket special order is a direct result of how reliable those things are. Nobody needs to take them apart because they don't break!
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 13, 2023, 12:19:11 PM
Preparing for the costing up of the shims required to get this back together, think it’s gonna be a dear but hoping for minimum expenditure on shims if I can help it, but I’ll have to wait for gaskets to appear before I can get that far.
Cleaning stuff tonight………..just for a change
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 13, 2023, 12:20:37 PM
Top work you capable man!My thoughts exactly Tim. The few places I did call all said the same thing, they never fail! Reassuring
I would say the fact gasket special order is a direct result of how reliable those things are. Nobody needs to take them apart because they don't break!
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 13, 2023, 12:22:55 PM
Great the work is progressing, and restricted to just the top end.(although still a lot of work)Never worked on such a thing that required this much prep to do a relatively straight forward job. Super impressed by the engineering in the motor, it’s a proper thing and amazed at the simplicity in it’s complexity if you know what I mean?
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Clean isn’t it Ted, I was quite happy with that visually.
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 14, 2023, 05:22:07 PM
d o’clock then!
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 15, 2023, 10:51:30 PM
All but two of the shims on the new head were in tolerance and by juggling about with the old ones off my head, managed a full set in spec
Spot the new head
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Post by: Laverda Dave on August 16, 2023, 07:28:11 AM
Agree about the lack of room in there, I stripped my FiX last winter to give it a good clean and was amazed with how tight the packaging is. Still the best bike Honda ever made though imho.
It's a big day for my own Viffer tomorrow when I will be forced to decide it's future :'(
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Bobbed an old set of plugs in for the wash and some paper filled, 'jonny glove fingers' into the spark plug tunnels before the wash but yes Bryan, ever so delicately coaxed in by hand for me! ;D
Post by: Orcade-Ian on August 16, 2023, 08:56:33 AM
Got to squeeze the swine into the frame yet, looking forward to a good swear
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Great Job Roo, as you say it will be fun squeezing it all back in - reminds me of the gynaecologist who wallpapered his hallway through the letterbox. Do let me know if you run out of swear words - I still have a drawer full somewhere.
Ian
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 16, 2023, 09:21:55 AM
Got to squeeze the swine into the frame yet, looking forward to a good swear
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Great Job Roo, as you say it will be fun squeezing it all back in - reminds me of the gynaecologist who wallpapered his hallway through the letterbox. Do let me know if you run out of swear words - I still have a drawer full somewhere.
Brilliant, thanks Ian, they may come in handy. I like the thought of storing them all in a drawer, that made me chuckle ;D ;D
Ian
Post by: Laverda Dave on August 16, 2023, 02:44:57 PM
What you getting rid for Dave, thought you'd just fettled it to keep it? The design on paper/computer fr this must have been a right thing, there is literally no spare room for anything, even wiring for the power commander abd charging tails for the optimate are a squeeze. I agree completely about the best bike Honda made, there's a reason for that and its simply the build quality. Inside mine is still mint, just the outside that needs the tlc but thats only through neglect due it it not needing any nannying
Bobbed an old set of plugs in for the wash and some paper filled, 'jonny glove fingers' into the spark plug tunnels before the wash but yes Bryan, ever so delicately coaxed in by hand for me! ;D
Mr Khan The Dictator may be doing it for me Roo. Taking it for it's ULEZ compliance test tomorrow. £175 for a known fail. The guy who's doing it thinks he might be able to tune it to comply and then it's another £75 retest fee. Khan has a licence to print money!
Good luck with the cleaning, don't forget to buy a new toothbrush as yours will be worn out!
Post by: Laverdaroo on August 16, 2023, 08:24:49 PM
ULZ is a monster crock, that kills me people being forced off their transport due to shite legislation. If it helps at all, I’m utterly livid on your behalf! Pretty soon we’ll be expected to pay to sodding walk about. And god forbid if you drop one whilst bending down, they’ll charge for that n all!
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There’s so little paint in it now the TFR colours the ally dark. BUT at least it’s clean-er
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Post by: Laverdaroo on August 17, 2023, 11:38:24 PM
That was the easy bit, getting the bolts and spacers to line up was the hold up. If it was on a trolley Jack you’d have more control but I don’t have one and like a challenge. With a bit of a wiggle I got it but very awkward.
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connect and faff with yet but chuffed on the progress front and a milestone out of the way
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Can I also add that no knuckles were scuffed in the fitting of this lump. Only upon walking away when they were dragging on the floor., but that’s normal
Thought I’d beat Ken to it
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Oh, I dunno, you can get at least TWO Rizzla papers down around the rear head🤣🤭🤭
Can I also add that no knuckles were scuffed in the fitting of this lump. Only upon walking away when they were dragging on the floor., but that’s normal
Thought I’d beat Ken to it
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Post by: Johnny4428 on August 18, 2023, 10:43:03 AM
Dinner suit? I only own one suit and nobody on here wants to see that one!Still fits though Bryan? Although they can get a bit creased! 🤣🤣🤣
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A BIT creased, you obviously aint met me!😂😂😂😂😂😂
Post by: philward on August 18, 2023, 04:39:28 PM
Knowing the VFR's reputation, at least you shouldn't have to do anything as major again!
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A BIT creased, you obviously aint met me!🤣🤣🤭🤭
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I’ve all on pressing the right button to spell a word right so not promising but see how I go
Bought another VTEC yesterday and rode it back from Pompey. It’s a crash damage jobby, just needs a nose cone and a nanny and it’ll be going up on the net for a quick flip. Hopefully a couple of quid in it to fund the paint and a few bits on the 550 to finish it off as I’ve run out of dosh at the min to get it all buttoned up. Been an expensive year so far!
Had the heads up from a pal so went for a look yesterday and snapped it up. The chap had a sub 30mph get off and decided at 62 he shouldn’t be riding bikes anymore.
Charcoal grey, 59 plate with 37k on the clock. Aftermarket cans and a few other mods, new tyres, 11 months ticket ands service done in June but a clean bike and rides lovely.
Not as fast as mine though, I was quite surprised but mine has been breathed on mind
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Hope to get the exhaust tackled tmrw with a bit of luck and we’ll have a test fire possibly Thursday all being well and the amount of shed time I can organise. Still getting there.
Oh, nearly forgot; the only bolt that necked off in the disassembly process; although there’s no mention of it in the manual and appears to be the only one on the bike………is a left hand thread of all things! Who knew??
No mention of it anywhere in-the workshop manual or the Haynes liar but on the parts fiche as I discovered when ordering a replacement. It’s one of the centre stand bolts
You live n learn
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Only a £2.50 bolt so not the end of the world
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Makes you terribley(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230828/52cbf5efbf91b8caa4e73dee3af53aa9.jpg)
short tempered!
Anyway hope to get back on it tonight with most jobs done now, just hanging everything off the motor like pegs, swingarm, all that and if there’s any adjustments required to timing etc I can do it with the lump in the frame now. It just needs dropping to whip the rear head off as needed.
The pipe’s on though which is a huge and fiddly job so that’s a win. Brown jobs needed around the house today then shed of dreams tonight for me
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....... the shakedown runs (that's the bike, not another illness for you) 👍;D ;D
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Quite a lot of backwards and forwards re routing cables over bolts and spacers and stuff to get the right length to connect up but I’m pretty happy how she’s sitting, bless her.
Bobbed a spare tank on to run her up and everything primed up. Fuel pumps happy, got good oil pressure and the light out on turn over, coolant’s in and a splash of motion lotion in the tank. Ready to go.
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It’s early starts and late finishes at the moment (4:45 leave the yard) so not sure when I’ll get back to it but hope to have her running by Saturday.
Ken, keep all six fingers crossed mate
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Post by: Matt_Harrington on August 30, 2023, 05:19:53 PM
Well it will, Ken’s from Manchester
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;D ;D ;D
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Which obviously denotes we’re superior in every way.
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Lancashire, the winner of the War of the Roses and an all round nice place to live.
I rest my case Milord
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Up a 4am tmrw mate so off to bed in a bit, you about tmrw eve for a good Yao on’t phone?
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Post by: Laverda Dave on August 31, 2023, 10:32:36 AM
So, just in case you need to get your Viffer tested I can recommend using ULEZ Testing UK. They are based in Stevenage and unlike all the other ULEZ test stations they do not fit a £300 Cat in the exhaust but tune the bike instead. You can also see the bike on the Dyno and have a large flat screen in front of you so you can see the test as it happens with the NOX level readings. Gary is the owner and really helpful even supplying tea and an open tub of free biscuits 👍. There was absolutely no change in the performance of the bike at all. The mighty Viffer lives on👍
Post by: K2-K6 on August 31, 2023, 12:08:50 PM
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Least you’ve kept her mate…….bloody marvellous
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Post by: Johnwebley on August 31, 2023, 09:44:18 PM
Love the modern V4 Hondas
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 02, 2023, 01:21:44 AM
She’s firing on only two and only on the throttle, the two in the head I’ve swapped at the rear of the lump.
Got sparks at the front two so the wires appear to be fine so thunking about it, it springs to mind of a fuel starvation to those two pots via the fuel injection.
There are two plugs into the fuel rails which go to the engine wizardry so I suspect I’ve either not plugged them in properly or somethings a bit tight and the connectors pulled a bit. I’ll probably check tmrw when I have a proper look, to see if the front two plugs are wet before I start pulling bits off her again first but I suspect it’s a fuel thing. There are no Fi warning lights on the dash so I reckon I’ll check that as my main point of investigation. Small progress never the less and was expecting some degree of niggles after all that’s been done, especially weaving that loom around the engine with zero room for any error, it was a fairly labour intensive affair and not for the faint hearted.
I’ve done something anyway but I’m sure I can track it down with a bit if a look and some biscuits.
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Post by: taysidedragon on September 02, 2023, 01:29:33 AM
Well, ran her up tonight, or tried to.
She’s firing on only two and only on the throttle, the two in the head I’ve swapped at the rear of the lump.
Got sparks at the front two so the wires appear to be fine so thunking about it, it springs to mind of a fuel starvation to those two pots via the fuel injection.
There are two plugs into the fuel rails which go to the engine wizardry so I suspect I’ve either not plugged them in properly or somethings a bit tight and the connectors pulled a bit. I’ll probably check tmrw when I have a proper look, to see if the front two plugs are wet before I start pulling bits off her again first but I suspect it’s a fuel thing. There are no Fi warning lights on the dash so I reckon I’ll check that as my main point of investigation. Small progress never the less and was expecting some degree of niggles after all that’s been done, especially weaving that loom around the engine with zero room for any error, it was a fairly labour intensive affair and not for the faint hearted.
I’ve done something anyway but I’m sure I can track it down with a bit if a look and some biscuits.
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Nothing a Jammie Dodger can't fix!
Post by: Johnny4428 on September 02, 2023, 08:44:36 AM
Well, ran her up tonight, or tried to.
She’s firing on only two and only on the throttle, the two in the head I’ve swapped at the rear of the lump.
Got sparks at the front two so the wires appear to be fine so thunking about it, it springs to mind of a fuel starvation to those two pots via the fuel injection.
There are two plugs into the fuel rails which go to the engine wizardry so I suspect I’ve either not plugged them in properly or somethings a bit tight and the connectors pulled a bit. I’ll probably check tmrw when I have a proper look, to see if the front two plugs are wet before I start pulling bits off her again first but I suspect it’s a fuel thing. There are no Fi warning lights on the dash so I reckon I’ll check that as my main point of investigation. Small progress never the less and was expecting some degree of niggles after all that’s been done, especially weaving that loom around the engine with zero room for any error, it was a fairly labour intensive affair and not for the faint hearted.
I’ve done something anyway but I’m sure I can track it down with a bit if a look and some biscuits.
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Nothing a Jammie Dodger can't fix!
He’s maybe only running on half biscuit power at the moment Gareth! 🤣🤣
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Post by: Johnwebley on September 02, 2023, 10:12:01 AM
Ha ha, thanks fella’s, might push the boat out and invest in some ‘thinking man’s’ chocolate Rich Tea’s to aid the process.Keep up the good work
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I’ve got a joke for yer Ken, wanna hear it?
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Headway maid tonight, no thanks to the sodding Honda WS manual! Not counting my chickens and all that. It going for another go at firing her up tomorrow
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**made, ** bloody spell check, just why, really?? Gggrrr!
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Post by: Rozabikes Tim on September 09, 2023, 08:35:52 AM
Good luck with the next start Roo. Had a near miss bidding for anon running VF500 as my next project. Honda were onto something when they tried all engine configurations and reckoned v4 the most suitable for a bike. Pity they are so complicated but at least wecan benefit now from a design that was too good andexpensive to be commercially competitive. Start you bugger!
VF500 is a sweet bike. Love em!
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Post by: Laverda Dave on September 09, 2023, 11:29:45 AM
Weren’t they the ones that had the chocolate cams that had a huge recall when they came out, can’t remember?
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That was the original VF750 Roo. I seem to remember Honda issued a recall on the first ones. The problem was the cams had too high a lift on the lobes and this put a huge strain on the lobes and wore them out hence the chocolate camshaft reputation. There was also an issue with the top end oil feed that made matters even worse and Honda dealers were told to use a special oil additive that 'stuck' to the cams when they were idle and would protect them on initial start up. The whole episode nearly bankrupted Honda and was the main reason why they redesigned the engine to use very expensive cam gear drive, they had a reputation to pull out the dustbin! I heard they lost money on every cam gear VFR they built but it was a cheaper alternative to having a trashed reputation and no sales of V4's. Funnily enough the same problem did not afflict the VF1000 although the more upmarket VF1000R was fitted with cam gear drive.
It could have been worse, it could have been a VF750S as they got in the US (and a few here), chocolate camshafts AND cracking frames!
Reminds me of a joke doing the rounds just before the VF750:
Knock, Knock
Who's There?
Honda CX500 ;D
Post by: Spitfire on September 09, 2023, 12:15:44 PM
Cheers
Dennis
Post by: Laverdaroo on September 09, 2023, 02:23:50 PM
Dave I thought that HRC had a massive input on the VF100R hence the cam driven wizardry etc, had one of those and nearly bought another a couple of years ago but took my rose tinted glasses off just in time and bought a box of bits Ducati853 instead
DOH!The issues I’ve had is that the Honda WS manual says to tighten down the cam holders in a specific way, all 14 bolts per holder but if you do as they instruct the exhaust cam jumps two teeth on torquing down. This continued for over ten attempts on getting it right before I had a bit of a tantrum and set the specs in the wrong order, went in perfect first time,, so that’s two inconsistencies in the manual now. I don’t mind do much but when I t’s that critical you’d think they’d have made sure the instructions are correct. It’s not like there are any special tools required………..except patience. I’ll get her all buttoned up and prod the start button later
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Post by: Rozabikes Tim on September 09, 2023, 03:00:55 PM
It’s not like there are any special tools required………..except patience. I’ll get her all buttoned up and prod the start button later
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Before Ken gets in and refers to you as "that special tool".....
Well done mate I think I would have spat the dummy well before.
Had a similar situation with putting a table circular saw back together last week. Table would not bolt down on the base and there was a gap of about 7mm that would not close up.Turns out there was a couple of locating bracketts with a spigot that keyed into the saw unit itself, allowing the blade tilt function. They were upside down! I was well pissed mucking about for over an hour taking it to bits and reassembling. Then my lad pipes up and points out the issue. That was after me giving it "I've been alive along time and know these things". It really racks him off so I constantly say it but boy did he enjoy thay one!
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 09, 2023, 03:24:18 PM
Here’s that joke I told Ken the other night when we were having a chuckle on the phone.
“How do you know ET comes from Stockport?”
“Because he looks like he does!”
Made I laugh
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 09, 2023, 03:25:08 PM
I hate kids!It’s not like there are any special tools required………..except patience. I’ll get her all buttoned up and prod the start button later
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Before Ken gets in and refers to you as "that special tool".....
Well done mate I think I would have spat the dummy well before.
Had a similar situation with putting a table circular saw back together last week. Table would not bolt down on the base and there was a gap of about 7mm that would not close up.Turns out there was a couple of locating bracketts with a spigot that keyed into the saw unit itself, allowing the blade tilt function. They were upside down! I was well pissed mucking about for over an hour taking it to bits and reassembling. Then my lad pipes up and points out the issue. That was after me giving it "I've been alive along time and know these things". It really racks him off so I constantly say it but boy did he enjoy thay one!
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Post by: Rozabikes Tim on September 09, 2023, 03:32:08 PM
See what you’ve done there Tim, you’ve woken it up haven’t you
Here’s that joke I told Ken the other night when we were having a chuckle on the phone.
“How do you know ET comes from Stockport?”
“Because he looks like he does!”
Made I laugh
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😁
Post by: Oddjob on September 09, 2023, 03:52:51 PM
Saying that though, when I saw Roo in the flesh, images of villagers running around with torches and pitchforks came to mind. That's what Roo stands for Tim, Remains Of Others.
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Pillock
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Post by: Oddjob on September 09, 2023, 06:14:30 PM
What tankard does Roo drink his beer in? A Stein of course.
You want me to go on??? :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
;) ;)
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 09, 2023, 08:17:22 PM
I cant stand kids either and def cant eat a whole oneI have the heart of a young child.
I keep it on my dressing table in a jar of Formaldehyde.❤️
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Please stop, the audible groan of pity coming en mass from the forum for your crap joke collection is hard to bear
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Hey, that's an original joke I'll have you know. I made that up on the spot.
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Post by: Oddjob on September 09, 2023, 10:25:35 PM
Guess what I bought the other day.
An original handbook for the CB550F, goes under the seat. Really good condition as well. Also got a CB550F toolkit as well.
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Bit tedious but needs sorting so still at it for a while yet. Think I might take the FI off again and check all the connectors to the front two but I’m spit on I think. We’ll see…….
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Post by: Matt_Harrington on September 10, 2023, 11:07:19 AM
You say 'good on the front' and that the rear 'exhaust cam moves' - how come the front 2 cyls don't fire? (unless I'm mis-reading you!)
I wish I could be more help....
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 22, 2023, 06:54:55 PM
firstly apologies for the lack of info, I've had my hands full a bit, dashing about doing this hat and the other.
Secondly, Rose is officially fixed......whoopwhoop :) :) :) :)
I had a right head scratchover a good packet of chocolate Rich Tea's, knowing that it was deffo a timing thing but couldn't understand at what point I could start at to get a satisfactory set up. The facgt that i hadn't touched the front two pots meant that it was here to look and use as a datum. With that in mind I set up what was supposed to be TDC on number one, which is as you'd expect, located just under your left buttocl cheek :o Straight away I could see that the marks were 180 out on the rear sprockets and although marked at the front, not the marks I'd been using initially. To check it I couldnt find any corresponding marks on the front set of cam sprockets so decided, just for a sense check , call 'Captain Happy' himself and gave Ken a call. His cam position knowledge far exceeds mine so it was a good shout and worth the endless dad jokes, tactless Mancunian attempts at humour and not being able to get a word in as a theory was created.
Anyway, after two coffees, a couple of rollie's and a manual download later, a small diagram/picture was seen by Ken which showed where the front bank should be on the sprockets at any any given time. Splendid! I'd simply overlooked the page with it on and it was in a silly place in the process meaning its easy to miss, never the less I whipped the rear cams off again, tipped her round 180 and refitted to Cyl 3 on comp @TDC. span her over from the crank and all was good. So on with all the air box again and associated spaghetti, tank on Fuel hooked and she fired straight away but on 3 pots still with the front pot number 4 at the right stone cold. Under closer inspection it appears I had a chaffed wire which kept failing so the soldering kit was out and she's now back on 4.
Tick over was mental at about 3k so off came the tank, associated spaghetti, airbox and connectors and under close inspection to the hose routing, an issue was seen just keeping the injector bar from closing completely due to the hose just routed a little differently. A bit of a fiddle later and its back to burbling but still needs a few tweaks to get he tickover set again, its been knocked during all the carrying on with the motor out etc so a few niggles were expected. I had her out on a few test rides to iron out issues but they were all simple fixes thankfully Needless to say shes back to her rude health and currently dripping wet outside after a mostly wet, yet enjoyable bimble around the Mendips this afternoon 8) ;) ;)
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Post by: Johnwebley on September 22, 2023, 07:13:34 PM
I do love the VFRs
With the single sided swinging arm,
Elegance and style
And not to slow
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on September 22, 2023, 07:22:53 PM
Post by: Oddjob on September 22, 2023, 07:23:44 PM
That's ok Roo, no offense taken at all. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Laverdaroo on September 22, 2023, 07:26:16 PM
Must try harder
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Post by: Spitfire on September 22, 2023, 07:27:38 PM
Cheers
Dennis
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 22, 2023, 09:24:27 PM
Well done "OdRoo".
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 22, 2023, 09:27:01 PM
Well done RooYeah, saw that. Videos like that are invaluable tbh as I’m sure youre aware. We’ve all had a ‘please make that just didn’t happen’ moments!
His was gear driven cams though so couldn’t use his timing tips but took what I could from his vids
No leaks apparent as yet but expecting a weep from the front cover gasket, it was a little past it’s best but gone back on with a bit of goo as they’re about 80 quid!
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Post by: davidcumbria on September 23, 2023, 07:10:06 AM
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Post by: Laverdaroo on September 23, 2023, 12:35:41 PM
Glad it's sorted Roo. So the tight squeeze did create a little reassembly problem as you predicted. Do you think a vfr would be OK as a restoration project or it would just be a serial pita?They are so well put together they’d make a great resto project, nothing will be broken so minimal part buying involved. Plastics are a little rarer for the earlier ones but the bikes are brilliant and so usable whether you’re gaining it down the a roads or bumbling along a mountain road with someone and the luggage in the back.
Mine still needs loads of fettling but she’s come through it well and as mentioned, to neck only one bolt on a motor that’s not been apart for 20 odd years I’d quite something.
They’re so cheap to buy means you could have a concourse bike for not much money at the end of the build and not spend a fortune. Rio king on doing one next as a matter of fact, purely for that reason
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Post by: K2-K6 on September 23, 2023, 01:12:04 PM
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on September 23, 2023, 01:35:43 PM
you're in biscuit negative equity now though ;D
😁
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Post by: Johnwebley on October 01, 2023, 03:23:49 PM
Just come home from a smashing bimble/scrape round the mendips and it appears I have my old bike again. She’s back! (Fireworks emoji)Well done
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A vfr is always worth the effort
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Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 01, 2023, 04:24:40 PM
Too old for big bikes now.🤔🤔🤔
Post by: Laverda Dave on October 01, 2023, 06:17:35 PM
Lovely bikes and I 100% agree with you, I was out on mine yesterday and asked myself why would I ever get rid of it, fantastic bikes👍
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Post by: Laverdaroo on October 01, 2023, 10:05:24 PM
Well done Roo for not giving up.
Lovely bikes and I 100% agree with you, I was out on mine yesterday and asked myself why would I ever get rid of it, fantastic bikes
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Post by: Laverdaroo on October 01, 2023, 10:11:21 PM
Started on the flipper bike this afternoon, fairings off, new ones on for a test fit, off again and in a big box ready to go to painters at some point this week..
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Post by: Laverdaroo on October 01, 2023, 10:15:59 PM
Apart from the clamp/boss from another member, all out of the scrap bit and modified. I cut 6” out of the mudguard, braised the holes up and a rattle can paint job. The clamp/ boss thing that the real name escapes me has been cut and re welded with 15mm less height to get the guard closer to the tyre. Fit it tmrw but a satisfying day in the shed and on the roads
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