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CB500/550 / Re: 1975 CB500K1 crank rotation resistance
« on: Today at 12:19:35 PM »
When you assembled the crankcase halves is it possible that an excess of Hondabond could have entered somewhere to lead to this problem? Could the crank seals be somehow causing the extra binding if they have distorted?

I'm assuming you have not fitted the block yet.

I think you will have to split the cases again to investigate further.

I have considered if the seals were the problem, but fitted well and tightening only happens on final torque of mains bolts.

I will try easing them off and re torquing.

You can turn the crank but do need a spanner on the alternator bolt.

Wondering if I am being too cautious.

Can you normally turn by hand on rotor without pistons fitted?

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CB500/550 / Re: 1975 CB500K1 crank rotation resistance
« on: Today at 09:58:29 AM »
End float on crankshaft is approx 6 thou.

I did not check crank for run out as wear on shells was minimal.


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CB500/550 / Re: 1975 CB500K1 crank rotation resistance
« on: May 02, 2024, 05:33:15 PM »
Does the crank have that free movement feel if you make a very small rocking action with the crank?

Do you have any doubts that the crankcase halves were a factory pair?

I will check for end float.

Pretty sure halves original

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CB500/550 / Re: 1975 CB500K1 crank rotation resistance
« on: May 02, 2024, 05:23:34 PM »
You didnt oil the back of the shell did you?
no, but good point.

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CB500/550 / 1975 CB500K1 crank rotation resistance
« on: May 02, 2024, 10:10:56 AM »
Im in the process of reassembling the engine on my 75 CB500K1 basket case that came already stripped.

Crankshaft checked for wear which was minor and well within spec.

Minor marks to crank main shells on 1 and 5 but replaced with new genuine Honda Green shells in line with calculations of housing and journal.

Checked with Plastiguage and all mains came out at 2 thou.

Reassembled with top case down and inserting primary shaft after cases together.

Bearings well oiled and fitted evenly.

Cases closed up easily with light taps with rubber mallet and gradually torqued up as per recommended order but on final torque crank becomes more difficult to turn.

It turns with a spanner on the alternator bolt but feels tighter to turn than I would expect.

I have rebuilt 3 CB750 enfines without this issue.

I have just checked and force required to turn crank is 9 lb ft.

Removed primary shaft and does not change.

Would be interested to hear if any similar issues .

Thanks

Martin

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CB500/550 / Re: Rocker Housing - Stuck??
« on: April 27, 2024, 09:20:16 PM »
Its been a pretty good morning so far. Head and barrels now removed and time for a rest and some tea. Just a couple of worries along the way: 1) I only have 11 head bolt washers, not 12 so where is the 12th, was there ever a 12th? ( I have used an inspection lamp to look down the cam chain tunnel and I cant see anything in there, I have given the head a good shake and it hasnt fallen out. 2) the screwdriver slot on the cam chain tensioner adjuster screw is stripped out/snapped off. Waiting for my son to come round later this morning to help remove the forks.

found on mine that you need a magnet to tell if washer is stuck to head on some of the less accessable ones

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If anyone has the above available would be interested in buying.

A complete primary shaft would be ok as long as sprocket teeth are ok

Its the spring plate that holds main jet.

Let me know price and condition.

Thanks

Martin

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CB500/550 / Re: Has anyone used these coils?
« on: April 16, 2024, 08:37:12 PM »
My general experience with Chinese parts and tools is not good.

The exception is well known brands with a good reputation.

But as they say you pays your money and takes your choice......

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CB500/550 / Re: 1975 CB500K1 Engine reassembly in frame?
« on: April 12, 2024, 12:29:38 PM »
Make sure you leave the sump & oil filter off off it's pretty maneagable just as the crankcase halves, plenty of space to fit the block upwards afterwards.

I used a piece of cardboard in the shape of the sump held in place with a couple of bolts to keep the dog hairs out until I fitted the sump etc.

Thanks Ted

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CB500/550 / Re: 1975 CB500K1 Engine reassembly in frame?
« on: April 11, 2024, 09:42:34 PM »
Yes, it is easy to build up in the frame. Plenty of clearance available between top of breather cover and frame, unlike the 750's.

Thanks Julie

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CB500/550 / 1975 CB500K1 Engine reassembly in frame?
« on: April 11, 2024, 09:17:17 PM »
Started to reassemble my CB500K1 engine and finding just the bottom end quite a lump to handle.

I wanted to double check that it is possible to reassemble everything in the frame once the crank case halves are together and installed and whether anyone else has tried.

I have a motorbike lift which means it is easier to work on at comfortable height.

I have rebuilt a number of CB750 sohc engines and no option other than to assemble up to cam cover, but I was a few years younger then  :D

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CB750 / Re: CB750F1 4 into one silencer availability?
« on: April 07, 2024, 06:25:57 PM »

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CB500/550 / Re: 1975 CB500 K1 rear brake pedal arm position
« on: April 05, 2024, 05:44:47 PM »
The return spring on my 500 K1 was missing. I eventually sourced the correct return spring for my 500 the spring sits on the outside of the frame/swing arm as you have identified.

There is a photo by Simon (SPR) showing it fitted.
If link works its this:-  http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,28739.0.html
Thanks Ted

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CB500/550 / 1975 CB500 K1 rear brake pedal arm position
« on: April 05, 2024, 11:17:41 AM »
As it was already in bits, I didnt get to see how fitted.

In the Haynes manual says to put arm in front of swinging arm and also shows return spring on inside of frame.

It does not work like this and lever binds up with actuator rod end.

Honda manual has a picture that shows arm behind swinging arm and outside spring.

Im guessing that Honda changed before end of K1 production?

Will now try re positioning

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CB750 / CB750F1 4 into one silencer availability?
« on: April 04, 2024, 11:44:49 AM »
Just wondered if any update on repro to match original availability?

I lashed out on new original down pipes and collector but waiting for silencer availability before fitting

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