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Title: My first CB750.
Post by: MrDavo on February 20, 2017, 02:41:54 PM
Cast your eyes over this, try to see past the ghastly red frame and the finned covers, if anyone here did see or own this bike they will remember it. I found the photo the other day, while looking for a picture of my 'daylight only' Norton Atlas racer.

Its the only photo I have of the CB750 I bought from Sports Motorcyles when I was a student of 19 or so, so approximately 1976. It had, I was told, a Yoshimura cam and pistons, although I never saw inside, I had no reason to doubt Steve Wynne, and I got a good part ex on my Suzuki GT550. It was very fast, very loud, but I later sold it because it kept trying to kill me (though that may have had more to do with me being 19). I now think the Girling shocks may have been a bit on the long side, it was prone to high speed tank slappers and it had oversize TT100's which won't have helped. Also I racked up a lot of speeding points in a short time and was getting close to a totting up ban.

(https://s5.postimg.org/f7tjtaeon/My_CB750001.jpg)

I have no record of the reg or VIN number, I think it was a G reg, it may have been H, so 1969 or 1970. I do remember it was sold to me as a K0, of course in those days the word 'sandcast' didn't mean anything, anyway it was just another second hand CB750 then. Looking at this list: http://www.honda-classics.co.uk/model-by-model-guide/ only 36 K0's were imported into the UK, I don't know about the original 'non K series' CB750s.

Looking at the photo I doubt it was a sandcast, as it has a finned oil filter case, and beaded edged 'non cut' mudguards. I wouldn't have known what a wrinkle tank was then, so I don't know about that. The forks have that step under the oil seal that early bikes do, I never did fix the torn gaiter. Whoever thought the red frame was a good idea also chromed the fork ears, I don't think they are later ones as the have the small reflector still. Those mirrors fix differently to the stalks to my K1. Only one throttle cable, which seems right for a K0. The white Honda badge is wrong, but a black one wouldn't have showed against the dark blue tank.

It had an oil pressure guage, you can just see where it connects to the oil gallery.

The carrier is the same type as the one I have on my K1 now, Tower I think, when you put luggage on it the front end wobble became worse, my K1 doesn't do it at all, mercifully.

Whatever it was I don't like to think what it would be worth now, though I'd put it back to standard, in any event if I'd kept it I'd probably be busy pushing up dasies by now.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: hairygit on February 20, 2017, 03:23:02 PM
It was probably an original CB750, one of the main differences about the K0 was the twin throttle cable arrangement, bet you wish you'd kept it now!
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Trigger on February 20, 2017, 07:21:14 PM
K0 oil tank, early engine possibly in the 103 range , fuel tap on the right, K0 seat but, K2 ears with K0 reflectors
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: MrDavo on February 20, 2017, 07:31:15 PM
early engine possibly in the 103 range

Gulp!

How do you know that, Trigger?
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Johnwebley on February 20, 2017, 07:36:33 PM
early engine possibly in the 103 range

Gulp!

How do you know that, Trigger?


  don't fret !!   Frank probably has it restored ,and for sale at £25K


    -)))))
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: steff750 on February 20, 2017, 07:39:51 PM
 ;) lol its exactly like the one i had in 1980 and i mean exactly in every detail ? i had to look a few more times and still not sure if its the same bike  mine is J reg 1970 cb750 and yours was probably H? not G and would not have been a K0 i have only ever seen j reg k0's not that ive seen that many ?
i still own this bike but now its back too original spec and is candy ruby red now if i can find a pic of mine you will be amazed at the likeness  ;) did you ever live in wales i was told even back then that there was two of these bikes knocking around
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: steff750 on February 20, 2017, 07:47:33 PM
Quote
early engine possibly in the 103 range

Gulp!

How do you know that, Trigger?
bang on in my case trigg 1030-1031 lol you must be clare voyant or a lot like her ;)
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Trigger on February 20, 2017, 07:48:44 PM
I have seen H plate UK, K0's, with 101 engine numbers
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on February 21, 2017, 02:30:09 PM
Probable a pre-preproduction bike.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: JamesH on February 21, 2017, 02:39:11 PM
I have two UK units (both H plates) with 1015*** vins.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on February 21, 2017, 02:43:09 PM
Cant believe that +/- 101 bikes came to Europe in those days.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: JamesH on February 21, 2017, 03:01:29 PM
Believe it Uli because it's true :-)....Both bikes were uk registered in Feb 1970...
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Trigger on February 21, 2017, 06:03:39 PM
Cant believe that +/- 101 bikes came to Europe in those days.

Very, very, very rare. I have only know and seen 5 in the UK  ;)
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: steff750 on February 21, 2017, 08:58:59 PM

Quote
I have two UK units (both H plates) with 1015*** vins.

yes so do i james and a 1017 on a H plate anything after august 1970 are J reg too august 1971
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: JamesH on February 21, 2017, 09:07:45 PM
I know of a few other early H reg. UK bikes...the owners are probably lurking on here somewhere :-)...
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Erling on February 22, 2017, 01:50:28 PM
Finned oilfilter is said to be introduced from E-vin1783!
Erling.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on February 22, 2017, 02:43:11 PM
Finned oilfilter is said to be introduced from E-vin1783!
Erling.

Where do you get that info from?
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: MrDavo on February 22, 2017, 03:26:41 PM
Whoever rebuilt it was clearly into fins everywhere, the alternator and mission cover too, so he wouldn't have kept a bald filter cover if a finned one would fit.

A close up on the back of the pressed number plate, is that a 'G'?

https://s5.postimg.org/477lfr17b/My_CB750001plate.jpg
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on February 22, 2017, 04:09:21 PM
Oil filter case was replaced by dealers due to a service bulletin. So that finned case does not give any evidence.

As far as I know, fin-less oil filter case was used until # 4148.

Actually, I am restoring # 1983 so it would be of great interest for me if Erling is right with # 1783 being the last engine.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Chris400F on February 22, 2017, 05:04:52 PM
Oil filter case was replaced by dealers due to a service bulletin. So that finned case does not give any evidence.

As far as I know, fin-less oil filter case was used until # 4148.

Actually, I am restoring # 1983 so it would be of great interest for me if Erling is right with # 1783 being the last engine.
Parts List says change at #4148, as does notes on differences on the Sandcastonly site at http://cb750sandcastonly.com/differences04.htm
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: steff750 on February 22, 2017, 07:14:54 PM
 ;) compared to yours mr davro  not a perfect match lol must have been a popular colour in the seventies at least they was'nt chopped like a lot of cb750's at the time
BTW i still say your bike was a H reg we never had  cb750s in UK until january 1970
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: mick on February 23, 2017, 01:06:06 PM
is that Goodwood Road Dave?, I would have been 13 in 1976 , i did my paper round on the race courses  ;), cheers Mick.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on February 23, 2017, 01:15:19 PM
1980, my first CB750 and basis for my first restoration.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Johnwebley on February 23, 2017, 01:47:22 PM
;) compared to yours mr davro  not a perfect match lol must have been a popular colour in the seventies at least they was'nt chopped like a lot of cb750's at the time
BTW i still say your bike was a H reg we never had  cb750s in UK until january 1970


 interesting colour scheme,I don't remember red frame/blue tin wear , but the little Yam I am restoring  also had that (fetching??)
colours.
any more info as to how it started ?
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: mick on February 23, 2017, 06:38:24 PM
i remember the phase of everyone painting their frames red for some reason ? late 70's early 80's,  ;) cheers Mick.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: K2-K6 on February 23, 2017, 08:27:08 PM
Red frames, wasn't that the Bimota effect?
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on February 23, 2017, 10:57:58 PM
The other effect was they handled. ;D
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Johnwebley on February 23, 2017, 11:53:00 PM
The other effect was they handled. ;D

  grins !!!

  forget Koni shocks,Rickman frames, just paint them red,and ha presto !!   they handle !!!!
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: mike the bike on February 24, 2017, 07:39:54 AM
At the expense of them breaking down  ;D
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: MrDavo on February 24, 2017, 10:14:14 AM
Well there you go, post a 40 year old picture on here, within days you have the engine number withing a few digits, and where it was taken, yes Mick, it is Goodwood Rd, outside my mum's.

Fast forward another 20 and I have a pic taken there of a 40 foot artic, trailer full of racing cars, overnighting there on the way back from Knockhill.

I can confirm that the red paint actually made it handle worse, not better.
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Tomb on February 24, 2017, 01:34:33 PM
My 500 handles good with the red frame, but now I'm thinking I should paint it black and get it handling even better ;D

(http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r221/TomBiles/500.2.jpg) (http://s145.photobucket.com/user/TomBiles/media/500.2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Woodside on February 24, 2017, 03:31:45 PM
Chrome  is the fastest version.....i believe ..
Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on February 24, 2017, 07:52:41 PM
Ooohhh. Piper exhaust (?)


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Title: Re: My first CB750.
Post by: Erling on February 25, 2017, 07:53:57 AM
As for E-vin 1783 to be the first to have finned oil filter is not to say it was the last non finned!
Steve Swan of US forum claims his from new CB750 E-vin46XX had a no finned filter.
Last sunday of August '69 I saw in Sweden 2 CB750 both with finned filter. E-vin about 23XX.
Ordered one next day from Honda dealer in town for my E-vin1638.
As for knowing this exact E-vin somebody once cited a service bulletin here or in the US forum.
Erling.
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