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Title: power for sat-nav
Post by: Johnwebley on March 08, 2017, 02:56:54 PM
hi all,

 just need advise on which is the best place to connect a power lead for a sat-nav ?
 ideally it will be switched on/off via the ignition,the negative lead can just be earthed ,


 thanks in advance,

  bike is CB500 K2 ,as my profile pic
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Tomb on March 08, 2017, 03:19:34 PM
If just for Satnav I always take a live from inside the headlight bucket, that way its a switched live, and run an inline fuse. You can easily find a switched live with a multimeter or bulb and wire.

However when travelling abroad touring/camping I found I wanted to use a cig lighter socket for phone charging, this I wanted to do whilst the bike was parked so now have a permanently live socket under a sidepanel where I can stash the phone hidden. I use a £60 car Garmin SatNav so the cig socket is ideal for both jobs. Just a consideration.
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Johnwebley on March 08, 2017, 03:31:54 PM
thanks Tomb,

 I have a permanent USB socket for the phone,but wanted a switchable supply for the handlebar mounted sat-nav,


 
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Chris400F on March 08, 2017, 03:46:31 PM
Black wire looks to be switched live, and from the wiring diagram only the front stop light switch appears to be plugged in to a double connector so maybe a spare connection there.
If you are planning a socket near the handlebars what sort are you intending to use? Presumably it needs to be weather proof.
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: hairygit on March 08, 2017, 04:14:19 PM
John, I have to ask WHY? You're of a generation that can read maps!
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Tomb on March 08, 2017, 04:40:30 PM
Black wire looks to be switched live,

Yep, the oil light is live and not used once on the move (hopefully), you could piggy back off that too.
(http://www.cycleterminal.com/wpimages/Honda-CB500-Electrical-wiring-diagram.jpg)
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Chris400F on March 08, 2017, 05:07:04 PM
I was looking at the wiring diagram in the CB 500 & 550 Shop Manual in Ash's Dropbox (P144 of manual is CB500 K2 diagram).
I have no idea how to export a single page of a pdf file though!
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Johnwebley on March 08, 2017, 06:52:39 PM
Thanks Chris,Tomb,and Hairy,

 I shall have a play around and see what is the easiest,

 Yes, I can read maps,but I find the pages blow over if I go to fast,and get soggy when wet !!!


 I am hoping to explore the far reaches of Suffolk ,and areas,I know its very flat,so can't use hills as landmarks,-)))

 I know most of the roads in the west ,but for less than £90,I thought it would be an added help.

check it out

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301977598178?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: paulbaker1954 on March 09, 2017, 12:39:33 AM
I was looking for a cheap mounting alternative for the four ( I have a full garmin wired in mount on my Yamaha but it gets expensive just for the occasional use I wanted on the Four)

Bought a Bluefire phone mount that has an integrated USB power feed built in from Amazon for £15.99 that mounts really easily on one of the idiot light mounting bolts. It took 10 mins to wire in to a feed at the back of the headlight (spare black +ve and ground on existing connectors)

It JUST with a squeeze holds my Garmin 390 securely and I have been really impressed with the quality for the price. It holds smartphones also really well.

Can't see the actual one I got from Amazon but the EBay link below looks to be the same one and it's cheaper even 👍

Only downside is there is no in line fuse but that is easily rectified

Look at this on eBay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-Grip-Universal-Motorcycle-Cell-Phone-Mount-Stand-Holder-5V-USB-Charger-Socket/131820803614?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41415%26meid%3D18d61c2943f94adfab101234d040b335%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172318590619 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-Grip-Universal-Motorcycle-Cell-Phone-Mount-Stand-Holder-5V-USB-Charger-Socket/131820803614?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41415%26meid%3D18d61c2943f94adfab101234d040b335%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172318590619)


 (http://[http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/X-Grip-Universal-Motorcycle-Cell-Phone-Mount-Stand-Holder-5V-USB-Charger-Socket/131820803614?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41415%26meid%3D18d61c2943f94adfab101234d040b335%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D172318590619/url)
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Tomb on March 09, 2017, 06:47:59 AM
Nice work

I made a stainless steel ball to bolt my handlebar clamp and use the mount that came with the satnav similar to this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bike-Cycling-MOUNT-CRADLE-FOR-GARMIN-NUVI-2457-2557LM-42-44LM-52-54LM-56LMT-57lm/232195749248?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D2220072%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41415%26meid%3De302d86a358a4d41a2c6c4722cb5cb99%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D262882031947

If it rains I shove a plastic bag over it all, but I am a cheapskate

Some of the lads I ride with use these which as I use an unwaterproof car satnav I'm considering switching to.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-3-Waterproof-GPS-SatNav-Bike-Bicycle-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Bag-Mount-Holder-/141881239642?hash=item2108c7e85a:g:tSoAAOSwAYtWOFwt
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: paulbaker1954 on March 09, 2017, 08:12:02 AM
Tom
I tried one of these with a cheap sat nav on my old Triumph

RUBBISH

Couldn't see screen in sunlight so constantly having to take my eyes off road (recipe for accident)

Eventually plucked up the courage to shell out on a Garmin plus Headset, expensive at around 500 all in but never looked back.
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Johnwebley on March 13, 2017, 07:49:54 PM
went for the first serious run today,

 used the sat-nav , it choose mainly main roads,odd short cuts ,but worked reasonably well,

 I bought a special bletooth headset with small earbuds to wear under the helmet,these worked brilliantly,easy to hear  over wind and road noise ,

 uses "noise cancelling " to make them better
well reccommended

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01LWI3M3F/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Green1 on March 13, 2017, 07:59:01 PM
When I collected the 550 I stuck the car satnav on the rev counter on the Guzzi.
It didn't like it on bit every corner or bump in the road it would turn the screen upside down so I would have to follow it backwards.
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: bomber on March 14, 2017, 12:04:10 AM
Apologies for hijack,
I wonder how much does a phone charger and satnav drew, I was under impression that there is very little spear juice on CB550.
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Green1 on March 14, 2017, 12:10:37 AM
I shouldn't think they draw much more than 1amp
Even the 550 can cope with that
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: Johnwebley on March 14, 2017, 08:13:29 AM
Apologies for hijack,
I wonder how much does a phone charger and satnav drew, I was under impression that there is very little spear juice on CB550.


  I have fitted a stop/tail LED bulb to save power!
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: bomber on March 14, 2017, 12:09:50 PM
I shouldn't think they draw much more than 1amp
Even the 550 can cope with that

my phone charger is 2.1A I imagine that sat nav with big screen be about same.
Title: Re: power for sat-nav
Post by: matthewmosse on March 14, 2017, 04:40:46 PM
There is easily enough surplus on a cb500 to run an extra stop tail bulb and a 5w sidelight as my sidecar had that much extra lighting, however after being told by a few drivers /  colleuges that theyd nearly forced me off the road thinking I was a solo bike riding out in the middle as the sidelight was so pathetic I tried running a 35 / 40w bulb in the sidecar marker - that was catastrophic in preformance terms. On a 30 mile trip you'd wind up stalling if the indicators or brake light came on. So yes, not a lot of extra power in the system, but enough for a phone charger. I even had oxford heated grips for a year or so, it could cope with them on about 50% of the time if you were moving at a decent pace, on windy b roads or in town the revs tended to be lower and you'd get the telltale misfire, switch off the extra electrical load for a few miles to let the battery recover. I had similar on my first big bike, a 550k3, turned out there were only 2 of the 3 altertator coils working. 30 miles range with lights on then it was wing it with the lights off time. Lights only comming on if a headlight was close by. Fun times crossing the Clywedog dam road by moonlight not dating to let the revs under 3500.
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