Post by: Triumphant59 on May 20, 2018, 09:13:46 AM
Post by: hairygit on May 20, 2018, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: mike the bike on May 20, 2018, 11:37:55 AM
Post by: haynes66 on May 20, 2018, 04:07:46 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on May 22, 2018, 08:11:29 PM
Post by: PatM on May 24, 2018, 02:05:26 PM
Tank repair is a specialist job and difficult to find a reliable supplier to do it. As mentioned earlier- theres the dangers, but given you can find someone to overcome that element- you are going to need a re-spray afterdards anyway as welding/brazing might seem localised, but the heat inviolved may well cause bubbling on the shiny-bits.
Post by: UK Pete on May 24, 2018, 06:47:47 PM
However I have had an epoxy resin repair last over 5 years so you could take the chance
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Post by: Moorey on May 25, 2018, 11:40:15 AM
I did this tank on this bike only 3 weeks after the whole bike was painted. He didn't expect to get away with not having to have it painted again.
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Post by: mike the bike on May 25, 2018, 01:20:30 PM
Post by: billywingnut on May 25, 2018, 02:15:58 PM
Post by: Nurse Julie on May 25, 2018, 02:18:39 PM
Post by: Moorey on May 25, 2018, 09:59:03 PM
See my comments above. I'm glad it's worked for you but you'll be getting the iron out again before long.
Time will tell on that one. As mine has been fine now for nearly 3 years and the tank is in regular use, how long are you giving it before I have to get the iron out again. :)
Post by: taysidedragon on May 26, 2018, 01:14:03 AM
Don't use a tank liner.My tank is in pretty good condition but I was thinking about using tank liner to make sure for the future. Why would that not be a good idea?
It would be great to save some time and cash if it's not necessary but I'm curious why that would not be good.
Post by: hairygit on May 26, 2018, 06:42:50 AM
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Post by: royhall on May 26, 2018, 08:13:28 AM
Because modern fuel (last 5 years) contains increasing amounts of ethanol, which turns lining materials to mush, allowing leaks to happen again, and blocking fuel taps and carb jets which a sticky mess.There are now Ethanol proof liners, I'm sure that every lined tank Menno turns out is not a disaster. But I agree to a point, if you don't need it don't do it. With mine I used the same cleaner that comes with the liner kits to clean the insides of my tank. It came up spotless so I didn't line it. Bit of a problem if your tank leaks though, in this case a new tank would be my choice as they are available and the 400F paintwork is quite simple and cheap.
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Post by: Nurse Julie on May 26, 2018, 08:53:03 AM
I'm know Menno doesn't line tanks routinely, only if the customer requests. His tanks are acid dipped prior to any work, so they are scrupulously clean inside before lining.Because modern fuel (last 5 years) contains increasing amounts of ethanol, which turns lining materials to mush, allowing leaks to happen again, and blocking fuel taps and carb jets which a sticky mess.There are now Ethanol proof liners, I'm sure that every lined tank Menno turns out is not a disaster. But I agree to a point, if you don't need it don't do it. With mine I used the same cleaner that comes with the liner kits to clean the insides of my tank. It came up spotless so I didn't line it. Bit of a problem if your tank leaks though, in this case a new tank would be my choice as they are available and the 400F paintwork is quite simple and cheap.
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Post by: Triumphant59 on June 02, 2018, 09:04:47 AM
Post by: Nurse Julie on June 02, 2018, 09:14:50 AM
Who is Menno?Menno Dek. Painter in Germany who many of us use on a regular basis for doing paint work on our classic Hondas. The best painter in my opinion and I know many others have the same view of his work.
http://www.tanklackieren.de
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on June 02, 2018, 12:58:09 PM
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Post by: Nurse Julie on June 02, 2018, 01:38:57 PM
If Menno got his act together and sent me an image file, he’d be in the forum sponsors section with Piki and Marcel.He is a very, very busy man Steve.
Steve
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Post by: eem46 on June 05, 2018, 01:53:25 PM
Post by: Green1 on June 05, 2018, 08:14:53 PM
I think the clear coat is a little soft and when mentioned he offered to re coat for free even though I bought the bike pre painted from another forum member. I did not take him up on his very generous offer as I couldn't be bothered to send it off and didn't think it was worth it.
My 750 was painted by local painter and that also has a very minor defect that's also fine. The clear coat is a bit tougher even though painted in the same clear coat as the 550. From memory I think it was Sikkens so not cheap crap.
No one paints the underside of the tank to the same finish as the topside and No one paints the backs of the side panels.
I will also add that I have seen better but I have also seen much worse and I will be using Menno in the future as he stripped and cleaned the tank were as the other painter did not.
If you want your tank and panels backsides painted then you should ask.
Post by: Laverda Dave on June 06, 2018, 09:02:01 AM
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,11929.msg127665.html#msg127665
Post by: eem46 on June 07, 2018, 07:58:56 AM
I hope my pic gets posted. Of course you don't finish the underside of the tank like the top side, but at least some color/paint to seal the white primer and with a ruby red tank and a bright white inside looks strange.
I am surprised that Menno use now Piki decals, one layer. I will contact him to redo my tank again (third time).
Kind regards,
Emiel
Post by: eem46 on June 07, 2018, 08:53:07 AM
Post by: Green1 on June 07, 2018, 08:47:15 PM
Post by: eem46 on June 08, 2018, 07:46:52 AM
Post by: Menno on June 08, 2018, 10:17:48 PM
And of course sometimes things can go wrong or repairs can go wrong.
But as everyone here knows as well I will solve any problems for free.
So please send me your tank and sidepanels as we agreed in october 2016 you would do.
On the other hand; I guess anyone would love to have his set painted for 365 euro including everything nowadays.
Yes Steve, you are right. I have to get my act together - sorry.
Post by: Triumphant59 on June 09, 2018, 09:28:31 AM
Hello Emiel, I have painted this tank end 2014. Things have changed quite a bit since then.
And of course sometimes things can go wrong or repairs can go wrong.
But as everyone here knows as well I will solve any problems for free.
So please send me your tank and sidepanels as we agreed in october 2016 you would do.
On the other hand; I guess anyone would love to have his set painted for 365 euro including everything nowadays.
Yes Steve, you are right. I have to get my act together - sorry.
Do you have a set price to paint and re sticker tank and side panels for a 400/4 ? My tank has 4/5 vey small rust holes underneath would I need to get them soldered or can you do that?
Post by: eem46 on June 11, 2018, 06:54:28 AM
I will contact you this week by mail.
Kind regards,
Emiel