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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB350/400 => Topic started by: 400 Cafe Racer on May 11, 2021, 08:59:16 PM
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Hi guys, I am looking and wondering if there is a reference list to cover all the "O" rings and seals needed for the Engine Trans unit. I am trying not to make assumptions about what is included/ excluded in gasket sets etc, although there is a sealed bag full of "O" rings.
From all the rebuilds you have carried out between you, there is lot of experience of Which things are included AND Which things need to be ordered seperately. There are odd things like the starter motor O ring etc I wanted to include
The bike I purchase recently has a few minor oil leaks to deal with, so I have decide to do a full strip and inspection so I know the full internal condition.
To have this info available woud be most helpful prior to ordering, also knowing best where they can be obtained and which brands are reliable and those to avoid.
Cheers ;)
Dennis
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Hi Dennis, not sure how comprehensive it is but something I put together a while back for the engine. Anyone feel free to add amend as I can't say it's 100%.
A2 265 91201-300-003 Crank oil seal 30x42x8 1
B1 45 14401-333-003 Camchain 1
B2 266 91201-323-005 Crank oil seal 30x45x8 1
C1 19 12251-377-000 Head gasket 1
C1 22 12329-333-010 Breather gasket 1
C1 24 12391-333-000 Rocker gasket 1
C1 30 12905-333-000 Oil pipe holder 2
C1 242 90442-377-000 Seal Washer 18od x 2.2 x 8mm thread 2
C1 267 91201-324-010 Tacho oil seal 6.5x14.5x7 1
C1 275 91301-333-000 R oil way O-ring 7 x 1.7 1
C1 277 91302-001-020 Tappet cover O-ring 30.8 x 3 8
C2 14 12191-377-000 Base gasket 1
C2 31 12909-333-000 Cylinder stud seal 2
C2 32 12910-333-000 Oil orifice seal 2
C2 276 91301-377-000 Cylinder base O-ring 55.5 x 2 4
D1 107 16173-253-004 Carb insulator O-ring 27 x 2.4 4
D2 18 12209-333-005 Valve stem seal 4
D2 280 91305-333-000 L oil way O-ring 5 x 1.7 1
E1 8 11394-377-000 Clutch gasket 1
E1 238 90431-292-000 Washer.Lock 16mm 1
E1 268 91202-216-005 Clutch oil seal 14x24x5 1
E1 269 91204-259-000 Kick start oil seal 16x28x7 1
F1 274 91301-283-005 Clutch Push Rod O-ring 5 x 2.4 1
F2 9 11398-333-020 Sump gasket 1
F2 282 91314-220-000 F main oil way O-ring 16.4 x 2.4 1
F2 283 91315-044-000 R main oil way O-ring 19.4 x 2.8 1
F2 286 91319-300-000 L main oil way O-ring 13 x 2.5 1
F2 287 91329-590-003 Sump filter O-ring 16.5 x 2.8 1
G2 12 11691-333-000 Alternator gasket 1
G2 139 23114-323-000 Primary drive damper 8
G2 140 23131-323-000 Primary chain 1
G2 239 90433-283-000 Washer.Lock 6mm 1
H1 213 35751-333-003 Neutral switch O-ring 11.2 x 1.8 1
H1 240 90435-333-000 Washer.Lock 8mm 1
H1 270 91205-333-005 Drive shaft oil seal 34x52x13.5x15.5 1
H1 271 91206-286-005 Gear change oil seal 14x28x7 1
H2 215 41123-516-00 Oil pump O-ring 63 x 2.5 1
H2 272 91207-333-000 Mainshaft oil seal 34x9 1
H2 278 91302-044-010 Oil Pump O-ring 6.9 x 1.5 2
H2 279 91302-377-000 Oil Pump O-ring 15 x 2.5 2
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G2 281 91309-300-000 Starter Motor O-ring 24.4 x 3.1 1
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Nurse Julie has o-ring kits for the oil pump. She may have others, best to send her a PM.
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That is a really useful list, thanks Deano.
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Some frame parts for the list. Once again please check for completeness.
2B 397 91252-300-003 DUST SEAL, 22X36X8 1
2M 398 91253-286-013 DUST SEAL, 30X45X9.5 1
2D 399 91255-369-000 OIL SEAL, 33X46X10.5 2
2B 400 91259-333-000 O-RING, 9.5X1.7 2
1D 476 94608-50000 O-RING, 23X2.8 2
2A 499 96140-63020-10 BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6302 2
2L 500 96140-63030-10 BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6303 1
2M 501 96140-63040-10 BEARING, RADIAL BALL, 6304 1
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Hi Deano400, and Laverda Dave
Wow, thats a very comprehensive list of "O" rings, seals and bearings. Thanks.
Regarding the Engine/Trans unit only, is it possible from your research to tease out and say for instance:
1. Which items are included in the Full Engine Gasket Set.
2. Which items are ordered in individual "other kits". (Oil pump kit as Laverda Dave mentioned)
3. Which items identified not available in kit form and only on individual order. ?
Many thanks ;)
Dennis
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Normal gasket set content.
C1 19 12251-377-000 Head gasket 1
C1 22 12329-333-010 Breather gasket 1
C1 24 12391-333-000 Rocker gasket 1
C1 275 91301-333-000 R oil way O-ring 7 x 1.7 1
C1 277 91302-001-020 Tappet cover O-ring 30.8 x 3 8
C2 14 12191-377-000 Base gasket 1
C2 31 12909-333-000 Cylinder stud seal 2
C2 32 12910-333-000 Oil orifice seal 2
C2 276 91301-377-000 Cylinder base O-ring 55.5 x 2 4
D1 107 16173-253-004 Carb insulator O-ring 27 x 2.4 4
D2 18 12209-333-005 Valve stem seal 4
D2 280 91305-333-000 L oil way O-ring 5 x 1.7 1
E1 8 11394-377-000 Clutch gasket 1
F2 9 11398-333-020 Sump gasket 1
G2 12 11691-333-000 Alternator gasket 1
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DSS oil seal kit.
A2 265 91201-300-003 Crank oil seal 30x42x8 1
B2 266 91201-323-005 Crank oil seal 30x45x8 1
C1 267 91201-324-010 Tacho oil seal 6.5x14.5x7 1
E1 268 91202-216-005 Clutch oil seal 14x24x5 1
E1 269 91204-259-000 Kick start oil seal 16x28x7 1
H1 270 91205-333-005 Drive shaft oil seal 34x52x13.5x15.5 1
H1 271 91206-286-005 Gear change oil seal 14x28x7 1
H2 272 91207-333-000 Mainshaft oil seal 34x9 1
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Julie's oil pump kit plus she includes additional seals not identified in the Honda parts list.
H2 215 41123-516-00 Oil pump O-ring 63 x 2.5 1
H2 278 91302-044-010 Oil Pump O-ring 6.9 x 1.5 2
H2 279 91302-377-000 Oil Pump O-ring 15 x 2.5 2
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Hey Deano, thanks - thats brill :)
It makes the job so much easier to know these things in adavance.
Am I right in assuming that the starter motor "O" ring is a seperate item, would you know if Nurse Julie can supply this as well. ?
Thanks for all your help. :)
Dennis
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Yes she does. Have a look at her Ebay items. If there's anything there that you need PM her and she will sort you out.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/m.html?_ssn=julies9731&_osacat=0&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEFSXS%3AMESOI&_odkw=&_from=R40&_trksid=p2046732.m570.l1313&_nkw=CB400&_sacat=0
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Thanks again Deano,
I didn't know Nurse Julie had a site, so that will be very useful for the future.
This engine was fully stripped to rebuild by PO some 3,000 miles/4 years ago so not expecting too much hastle with bolts etc. I think at the time some seals and "O" ring changes were overlooked, hence my strip down now.
I'm part way into the strip down now, Seat and Tank off, Carbs and coils off, Breather cover and tappet covers off, tappets slackened to reduce cover stress when camshaft cover is removed. Side tracked to remove oil filter and drain sump, but found the Oil filter centre bolt will not shift. I've tried using a 6 sided socket and extension bar, plus tapping the wrench while under load without result. Just ordered a 12mm SnapOn Flank Drive socket to use on my air driven impact wrench and considering whether to warm the area slightly before impacting.
Many thanks
Dennis ;)