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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB500/550 => Topic started by: TonUp on March 10, 2014, 10:48:48 PM
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I have recently acquired a CB550F2, it came with a pattern seat 'fitted'. It rocks backwards and forwards pivoting on the lock / hinge bracket. None of the rubbers touch the frame.
Anyone got any tips on getting it to fit better? I have adjusted the lock pin as short and tight as possible and this has improved things a little. I might try relocating the hinge bracket next.
A simple fix (or so I thought) would be to remove and pack the rubbers but they are riveted on. :-\
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Drill the rivets out and use self tappers.
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I bought one of those for my 500 (assuming it's the one with the fibreglass base). It looked great, but never fitted properly. They clearly went to a lot of bother to tool-up and make it, but the problem was that the seat base was the wrong height in relation to the frame tubes, so when you bolt the hinge on (which governs the vertical position of the seat) it sits too high. Also, as you say, the rubber feet are in the wrong place and/or the wrong thickness, so they don't all touch the frame. Consequently the seat tends to rock.
I eventually got fed up with it, sold it, and bought one of the replica seats with a metal base from CMS. It fits much better; the only compromise being that it doesn't have Honda written across the back (because Honda stopped people using their name on reproduction items).
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A friend of mine has offered to make some nylon spacers for the seat. I will update later when I get it sorted.
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update: A mate of mine made the spacers;
5 black nylon spacers;
13mm thick, 25mm diameter, 5mm center hole
Drilled out the rivets then used some self tappers to fix spacer with a bung to the seat. Result! Seat fits perfect now. :D
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Shame the bone heads that go through all that trouble to re produce them can not do that and get it right.
Cheers
Bitsa
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Why do people even try to fit a patten seat when there are nice NOS ones about. As Bitsa will tell you, this is a fair price for a bit of luxury for your arse.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111330860607?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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Two hundred and fifty pounds! My heretofore 'practical' classic is fast becoming rather an impractical one. I'm furious.
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Why do people even try to fit a patten seat when there are nice NOS ones about. As Bitsa will tell you, this is a fair price for a bit of luxury for your arse.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111330860607?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Some people are on a budget. There's no way I could justify spending £250 on a seat.
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i bought of ebay a pattern seat which was advertised for a k3, not sure what it fits but not a k3, guy has since vanished off ebay
cost me 50, would like to get as close to my money back once i found out what its for i will offer on here
i know have the original base for mine so need money for foam and cover
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Guys,
A few years back I bought a pattern seat from DS.At first I thought the quality was and looked real good until I tryed to open it.If I could get the seat a third open that would be generous it crashed up against the oil tank cap.Got frackin annoyed cos Again went against my judgment on replica shit and sold it on eBay for the same as I paid for it.So decided to rebuild the old one and have to say came out real good.Now on the question of 250 quid seat Yes would love to have as I think new tank,side panels and seat looks the balls.Am I on a budget no but I am not rich as Trig said one of his clients broke down the price of silencers into a reasonable quest.I still work albeit for not a lot but that seat is for me a months private pension.There is absolutely nothing where I live to spend my money on apart from fags,petrol and booze some will say wow some wont.250 Quid is cheaper than DS,USA etc but would I pay more NOOOOOOOOOOO.My passion only goes so far as what I spend my olde lady spends and we and she do not need frack all.
Cheers
Bitsa
PS Trig about your arse spot on
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250 quid? Sodding mad. I'd be hammering out some tin or laying fiberglass and cutting up old sofa cussions before I spent that. It's how me and my mates solved seating issues on our bikes fairly often. Most of my bikes now have plastic bases appart from the 500 and 550 projects that all have original or well used ones,that were nos 10 years ago. Whatever happened to the age old wrapping a bin bag over the seat with a bungy cord repair?
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Matthew
If that's your scene go for it but some like the best or remember the best.In this world you came in with f all and you go out with f all.Your choice man.You work like hell all your life and if your bike or bikes is your thing why leave anything to family who will sell or dump your pride and passion or piss it up the wall. I am not saying all do this but for me I am taking no chances.By the way if you do not want the seat whats bugging you?If that's what you do I dont think I would buy a bike from you no malice intended.
Cheers
Bitsa
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Note. I would happily carry on riding a bike like that, I would only sell a bodged bike with the,bodges declared, or do a,proper repair. Probably why I have 14 or so project bikes and have only ever sold on 3 bikes. However things like seats, well they come up cheap eventually, even if you need to buy a base, foam and a cover each in seperate years. I think all my project 500's got seats this kind of ways appart from the outfit that had a nos one thanks to the last owner.
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Everyone to their own, many of us have these bikes as a hobby so spend money to improve them and spend time tinkering, some still use them as daily transport and want to keep the running costs down and if its not all shiny they are not bothered. There is room for both types in our SOHC world, and if I had the money and really wanted a nos seat I would probably pay £250.
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Matthew,
Good to hear you are an honest seller,buyer I was not knocking you but you know as well as I do boy buy this its the dogs.That does not sound like you so if apologies are necessary then they are due.You carry on mate wish you the best
Cheers
Bitsa
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Mickwin,
I agreee with you but
Because I do not think I am long for this world don't know why but #@%$ it if I want it I will have it.Arrogant I know but just looking at my bike never mind riding it I love it and if I am a miserable old bastard do you despise me of that pleasure?I think not Again who the frack cares at this time of life?I wish all on this site they achieve all they wish for.
Cheers
Bitsa
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Why do people even try to fit a patten seat when there are nice NOS ones about. As Bitsa will tell you, this is a fair price for a bit of luxury for your arse.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111330860607?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
One point about the Honda new ones is the pattern for the K2 was different (four ingrained panels not 3) at the rear and really rare. I was cheesed off when my 750K0 came fitted with a K2 seat but I got really good money for it from a lady who was buying it as a surprise Christmas present for her dad. Why can't my kids buy me presents like that !. Ended up getting a NOS K1 genuine seat from Silver's and taking it apart to convert to a K0 'ducktial' just for the pan and trim. Broke my heart to strip a beautifully made seat. My K0 also came with a spare set of UK K2 handlebars too, which also proved to be rare!
Cheers .... AshD
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Hey ash, have you still got the NOS K1 seat cover?
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Hey ash, have you still got the NOS K1 seat cover?
Sorry James.. sold it to a guy in Germany who was over the moon with it. Sold the Foam to a guy in Australia and the latches etc to a guy in Belgium. Like to trade internationally ;)
Cheers ... AshD
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Ha ha love it!!
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To be honest, my comment was a bit filppant. I do tend to do bin bag over the seat repairs in order to keep things going along whilst I look out for cheap used parts though. Trouble is they are getting fewer and futher between for these bikes, and prices do inevitably seem to be on the up, though not as much as bmw aircooled twins which I experimentally ventured into for the 3 years most expensive motorcycling I ever had - when someone buys my old bmw's they'll be getting a bargin as both benefitted from brand new clutches and pro recon gearboxes and will inevitably sell cheap as winter did it's dammage to cosmetics and everyone buys the paintwork, not the bike.