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Title: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 10:57:26 AM
I'm looking for a set of US spec handlebars bars for a 1973 K2 500 4. PN 5310032300

David Silver, no stock. EBay not sure if the set on there are the correct ones.

Amy ideas?
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: JamesH on July 14, 2017, 10:58:17 AM
 Very hard to find I'm afraid Jon..
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: AshimotoK0 on July 14, 2017, 11:40:06 AM
That's the same part no. as the K0 & K1 for USA . I got a really nice part from DK (Twowhelspares)  for less than it was to re-chrome my originals plus they had one of the bar switches on that I used for parts.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: AshimotoK0 on July 14, 2017, 11:50:35 AM
That's the same part no. as the K0 & K1 for USA . I got a really nice part from DK (Twowhelspares)  for less than it was to re-chrome my originals plus they had one of the bar switches on that I used for parts.

You could make a low offer on these or ask them if they are prepared to split. I think I paid around £35 Best offer for the ones I got. Worth a try....definitely cheaper that importing from USA and returns policy is excellent. You are talking £40-50 to get originals re-chromed anyway in my experience.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB500-4-CB500F-Four-1972-Handlebars-Handle-Bars-Switchgear-/332252068856?hash=item4d5bc43bf8:g:DX4AAOSwjL5ZNTZ~

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB500-4-CB500-Four-1972-Handlebars-Handle-Bars-Switchgear-Switch-Gear-/311529029184?hash=item488893be40:g:BiYAAOSwoydWnPlT
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: petermigreen on July 14, 2017, 12:11:57 PM
Poor timing I'm afraid. I literally just sold some on eBay.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: deltarider on July 14, 2017, 12:12:13 PM
If I may ask. Why would you want US handlebars?
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: hairygit on July 14, 2017, 12:22:32 PM
If I may ask. Why would you want US handlebars?
I gave up asking people that long ago, I'll never understand it! U.K. spec bars handle so much better, especially if you enjoy brisk riding on twisty U.K. roads, and at motorway speeds U.S. spec high bars leave you feeling like a flag in a force 10 gale, and certainly ain't good for fuel consumption!

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Title: US spec handlebars
Post by: Honda Al on July 14, 2017, 12:28:11 PM
I got 'US' style bars on mine. I was in the same situation, couldn't find originals in a decent condition and price.

In the end, because I wasn't fussy about originality, I found the measurements of the originals and bought some from M&P. I think there was 1/2 inch difference.

If you like I can dig out the old invoice and find out exactly what they were?

Alan


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Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 07:41:32 PM
I got 'US' style bars on mine. I was in the same situation, couldn't find originals in a decent condition and price.

In the end, because I wasn't fussy about originality, I found the measurements of the originals and bought some from M&P. I think there was 1/2 inch difference.

If you like I can dig out the old invoice and find out exactly what they were?

Alan

Hi Alan

Yes if you don't mind. Cheers Chris


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Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 07:43:16 PM
If I may ask. Why would you want US handlebars?

The bike is an American import that the previous owner tried to make look like a uk model. I would prefer to keep it original and plus I think the higher bars would be more comfortable for my aged body.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: Moorey on July 14, 2017, 08:09:11 PM
If I may ask. Why would you want US handlebars?

The bike is an American import that the previous owner tried to make look like a uk model. I would prefer to keep it original and plus I think the higher bars would be more comfortable for my aged body.

Exactly my sentiments. Been more upright are certainly easier on the body until you sit for mile after mile at over 80mph which not many do these days, and as far as twisties are concerned they don't make a jot of difference. In slow town /city traffic they are far better. Nowt wrong with keeping a USA bike USA spec.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: Moorey on July 14, 2017, 08:41:26 PM
I am trying this to see if it reduces the flag in a force10 feeling. I put it on this morning. [first fit].

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Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: mike the bike on July 14, 2017, 08:43:37 PM
If you put UK spec bars on you'd have all the purists pointing it out.  I had one at Crich pointing out my speedo was wrong; should be a 120mph clock not a 110.  Assholes.
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Post by: Nurse Julie on July 14, 2017, 09:28:16 PM
The clocks on my 400/4 go up to 120mph Mike but the bike never did and never will do, so a waste of numbers I reckon. I think yours at 110mph does the job just fine  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 09:36:30 PM
That's the same part no. as the K0 & K1 for USA . I got a really nice part from DK (Twowhelspares)  for less than it was to re-chrome my originals plus they had one of the bar switches on that I used for parts.

You could make a low offer on these or ask them if they are prepared to split. I think I paid around £35 Best offer for the ones I got. Worth a try....definitely cheaper that importing from USA and returns policy is excellent. You are talking £40-50 to get originals re-chromed anyway in my experience.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB500-4-CB500F-Four-1972-Handlebars-Handle-Bars-Switchgear-/332252068856?hash=item4d5bc43bf8:g:DX4AAOSwjL5ZNTZ~

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB500-4-CB500-Four-1972-Handlebars-Handle-Bars-Switchgear-Switch-Gear-/311529029184?hash=item488893be40:g:BiYAAOSwoydWnPlT

Hi, I'd seen these previously so I've made an offer and it's been accepted. Bars are on their way to me. Thanks
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 09:38:15 PM
I got 'US' style bars on mine. I was in the same situation, couldn't find originals in a decent condition and price.

In the end, because I wasn't fussy about originality, I found the measurements of the originals and bought some from M&P. I think there was 1/2 inch difference.

If you like I can dig out the old invoice and find out exactly what they were?

Alan


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Hi again Alan, no need to dig anything out now. I've bought a used set from eBay. Thanks Chris
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 09:41:33 PM
Ok, so next question is, what else will I need?

Throttle cables?

Clutch cable?

I assume speedo and tacho cables will be ok?
Title: US spec handlebars
Post by: Honda Al on July 14, 2017, 09:52:56 PM
Ok, so next question is, what else will I need?

Throttle cables?

Clutch cable?

I assume speedo and tacho cables will be ok?

You'll definitely need the longer clutch cable. I got one from 4into1.com.

You might be lucky with the throttle cables.

Speedo and tacho don't move, so they are fine.

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Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: Moorey on July 14, 2017, 09:54:53 PM
Maybe brake hose.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 09:56:25 PM
I am trying this to see if it reduces the flag in a force10 feeling. I put it on this morning. [first fit].

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I fitted a Dart Flyscreen to my 2015 Triumph Bonneville the other day to try and reduce the wind force on my body. It was a simple fit, less than ten minutes, and looks really good. I still get buffeted but it has reduced some of the strain on my arms.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: hairygit on July 14, 2017, 09:57:54 PM
The clocks on my 400/4 go up to 120mph Mike but the bike never did and never will do, so a waste of numbers I reckon. I think yours at 110mph does the job just fine  ;D ;D ;D
Back in the late 70s a mate of mine fitted a 460 yoshi big bore, cam and exhaust, it would pull a genuine 130mph, used to make Z1R owners feel very silly away from the lights. Regularly revved to 14,000 rpm with no issues, crank held out fine as well. Anyway, back to the thread, if you have U.K. switchgear fitted, chances are the wires won't be long enough, so you'll need to swap those as well

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Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 14, 2017, 10:01:44 PM
The clocks on my 400/4 go up to 120mph Mike but the bike never did and never will do, so a waste of numbers I reckon. I think yours at 110mph does the job just fine  ;D ;D ;D
Back in the late 70s a mate of mine fitted a 460 yoshi big bore, cam and exhaust, it would pull a genuine 130mph, used to make Z1R owners feel very silly away from the lights. Regularly revved to 14,000 rpm with no issues, crank held out fine as well. Anyway, back to the thread, if you have U.K. switchgear fitted, chances are the wires won't be long enough, so you'll need to swap those as well

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It's still got the US switchgear so I'm hoping the longer wires are just tucked inside the shorter handlebars. I'll be finding out soon enough I guess. :-)
Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: Ashdowner on July 15, 2017, 09:02:24 AM
I'm looking for US bars for my 550K3. Having got used to the much more comfortable position on my Virago I'd like to enjoy the same on my K3. And I already have a screen on my K3 and yes it makes a vast difference.
Title: US spec handlebars
Post by: Niko on July 15, 2017, 10:37:54 AM
I've got some USA bars....not sure if they are the right type for you....


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Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: Niko on July 15, 2017, 10:43:29 AM
I've got some USA bars....not sure if they are the right type for you....


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Title: Re: US spec handlebars
Post by: jon stead on July 15, 2017, 11:34:50 AM
I've got some USA bars....not sure if they are the right type for you....


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I've got some now, thanks though.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: AshimotoK0 on July 15, 2017, 12:05:52 PM
You are a lucky person Niko living so close to DK  :)
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: mike the bike on July 15, 2017, 01:31:27 PM
I know my speedo isn't the correct one but it does.  I just get cheesed off with know alls pointing stuff like that out.  It's my bike so go and do one.  There's a lot of other stuff that isn't standard either, like stainless nuts and bolts, stainless rims and spokes, electronic ignition and British air in the tyres.
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Post by: Green1 on July 15, 2017, 01:59:52 PM
Mine is a bitsa too Do I give a hoot nah  :)
At Crich there were a couple of old farts pointing and prodding mine as well

I like my high bars even if you are blasted by the wind at speed.
I have tried a screen on my Guzzi and its made things worse now at speed there is a crazy amount of buffeting
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 15, 2017, 02:33:04 PM
Yep, mine has odd bits on as well but hey, if I don't care why should anyone else. The most important thing is that we ride our bikes and enjoy them. Good thing I didn't hear someone slagging my Hettie off, they would have got the sharp end of my tongue  :o :o
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: jon stead on July 28, 2017, 03:17:50 PM
Ok, put the US spec bars on today and I think it looks way better. It's also more comfortable to ride. The mirrors are in the right place now as well. I can see clearly behind me and not just a view of my biceps.

One question though. Is there a different bracket that the speedo and rev counter mount to for a US spec and a UK spec bike? I ask because my gauges have always looked too "flat". I'd prefer them to be angled back a bit.

Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: Bryanj on July 28, 2017, 03:38:47 PM
The US K1 had a different bracket along with different speedo and tacho as the cable entry is at an angle and not straight down, also the rear chrome cups are complete rather than a large hole. These were never fitted to the UK model which had the straight inputs and cup with large hole. I have a set of NOS US gauges along with used mounting hardware but they will not be cheap
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: jon stead on July 28, 2017, 04:01:23 PM
My bike is a 73 K2 US import. Cam you tell if the gauges are correct for my model?
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: Bryanj on July 28, 2017, 06:17:06 PM
The K2 should have the Big gauges like the 750 with a chrome rear light bracket that is the shape of the UK black one.

If you can post a pic of the faces and the chrome backs I will look in my parts books and tell you about the clocks
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: jon stead on July 29, 2017, 05:21:28 PM
Here you go

Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: JamesH on July 29, 2017, 08:28:29 PM
You have K0 type gauges there. You can tell because the spedo / tacho cable outlet is 90 degrees (straight out) to the back of the gauge body.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: Bryanj on July 30, 2017, 12:35:52 AM
Yep James is correct, like I said I have the correct assembly if you want to know how much PM me
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: jon stead on August 06, 2017, 10:08:36 AM
Thanks to Bryan, my bike is now sporting a lovely set of K2 gauges and bracketry.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: hairygit on August 06, 2017, 10:09:52 AM
Thanks to Bryan, my bike is now sporting a lovely set of K2 gauges and bracketry.
Pictures?

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Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: jon stead on August 06, 2017, 10:19:57 AM
Not the best, but only one I have at present.

Next time home, gauges coming off again and bracket will get a coat of paint. New gauge rubbers should of arrived from DSS and I'll replace rusty chrome domed nuts for stainless ones. I'll post a better picture then.
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: hairygit on August 06, 2017, 10:42:49 AM
Ooh, they are clean! Need to take the bars off now and get them re chromed, they let the clocks down!

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Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: jon stead on August 06, 2017, 10:58:57 AM
Ooh, they are clean! Need to take the bars off now and get them re chromed, they let the clocks down!

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Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: AndyH on August 06, 2017, 11:08:47 AM
Nice work there Jon.  8)
Title: Re: US spec handlebars - sorted now, thanks
Post by: Bryanj on August 06, 2017, 02:34:20 PM
You are welcome, always new they should be on the correct bike and yours looks good
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