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Title: Bike lift
Post by: yozzer74 on September 10, 2017, 09:58:38 PM
Hi thinking of buying a bike lift does anyone have any recommendations  for a good one thanks .
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Moorey on September 10, 2017, 10:29:29 PM
The best birthday present I ever got. You will wonder why you didn't get one years ago. Try to get one with a top wider than 600mm if I put bikes on using the side stand the side stand foot is overhanging the edge of the bench platform.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Trigger on September 10, 2017, 10:30:48 PM
Lift or ramp ?
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: yozzer74 on September 10, 2017, 10:31:10 PM
Ok will look out for that .I'm just sick of lying on floor lol
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: yozzer74 on September 10, 2017, 10:32:06 PM
Trigger what's the difference
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Trigger on September 10, 2017, 11:10:44 PM
To me this is a bike lift >>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Compact-Motorcycle-Lift-Stand-Heavy-Duty-680Kg-Hydraulic-Lifting-Bike-Service-/222638870993?hash=item33d64f91d1:g:uIkAAOSw5ulZsrp~

A ramp needs to be 600 as moorey stated and heavy duty, lots of cheap ones about that are only fit for light weight bikes/scooters.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: yozzer74 on September 10, 2017, 11:12:37 PM
It's a ramp I'm looking for then
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Moorey on September 11, 2017, 12:00:17 AM
This is very similar to mine but 60mm wider which will make a big difference as far as the side stands are concerned and also for when you have to stand on them when putting bikes on the main stand.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sealey-MC454-Hydraulic-Motorcycle-Lift-450kg-Capacity-/141895475749?epid=1537644240&hash=item2109a12225:g:jlAAAOSwY3BZFOpG
Cheaper ones available.
They do seem to have gone up a bit in price since I got mine 9 years ago. But worth every penny to the knees.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Trigger on September 11, 2017, 02:11:00 AM
Don't use bike ramps much, as mostly engine work these days. Have a couple of Clarke CML3's, not the best I have had but strong and 650mm wide.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: royhall on September 11, 2017, 08:03:35 AM
Been looking at these lifts for a while. What worries me is the ones on wheels, they look really top heavy when raised. Surely they should be bolted to the floor. I may be wrong as I have never used one that wasn't bolted, but they look like an accident waiting to happen?
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Orcade-Ian on September 11, 2017, 08:29:27 AM
Hi folks,
I have the Sealey type ramp which I bought more than 20 years ago - I think they were all made by Grazia in Italy back then?  I lift a GL1500 GoldWing on it and you would be very surprised how stable it is.  In the early days I deliberately shook hell out of it to see if anything moved and mine is not bolted down but has the 4 screw downs to stop the wheels rolling.
The detachable ramp is far too steep for anything bigger than a C50 but I use a separate, longer braced wooden slope.  Another irritation if you ride the bike up is that you need a platform on the left side to place your foot (and side stand peg) so that you can get off to hoist it on to the main stand.
Good for servicing our ride on mower too.

I also have a Clark Strong arm bike lift which goes under the middle of the Wing and lifts it to a good height for maintenance, including wheel removal.  Also very stable in use.

I used the lift to get the big heavy Getrag 5 speed gearbox out and back in on my XJ-S when I changed the clutch - too old now to balance stuff like that on my chest!!

Ian

Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Trigger on September 11, 2017, 09:21:39 AM
Been looking at these lifts for a while. What worries me is the ones on wheels, they look really top heavy when raised. Surely they should be bolted to the floor. I may be wrong as I have never used one that wasn't bolted, but they look like an accident waiting to happen?

You can take the wheels off and bolt it to the floor but, it has stabiliser bolts so it doesn't move about and while it is on wheel it is easy to move out the way for cleaning and so on.

https://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-345743/clarke-cml3.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI89Pdo9ic1gIVTZSyCh01iw5JEAYYASABEgLDz_D_BwE
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Rozabikes Tim on September 11, 2017, 09:40:57 AM
Been looking at these lifts for a while. What worries me is the ones on wheels, they look really top heavy when raised. Surely they should be bolted to the floor. I may be wrong as I have never used one that wasn't bolted, but they look like an accident waiting to happen?

You can take the wheels off and bolt it to the floor but, it has stabiliser bolts so it doesn't move about and while it is on wheel it is easy to move out the way for cleaning and so on.

https://www.tool-net.co.uk/p-345743/clarke-cml3.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI89Pdo9ic1gIVTZSyCh01iw5JEAYYASABEgLDz_D_BwE
Mine looks exactly like that but isn't Sealey. Screw down stablisers sort it when in desired place. Only issue I have is pivoting front wheels are small diameter and of hard material - so moving even unloaded on concrete that isn't billiard table smooth, is not easy. Also gloss paint finish + any water / fluid on tyre van be an issue if using motor to get bike on ramp. Excellent otherwise.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Orcade-Ian on September 11, 2017, 10:39:07 AM
Amazon UK have them advertised at £377 inc vat and del at the moment - looks identical to mine and 450 kilos.
Ian
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: BigAl (Alan) on September 11, 2017, 11:22:22 AM
I've had a Clarke lift for many years with metal wheels (as image), very very heavy to position or move around.
Providing the bike is central on the lift, I have found it very stable 
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Moorey on September 11, 2017, 11:29:59 AM
Amazon UK have them advertised at £377 inc vat and del at the moment - looks identical to mine and 450 kilos.
Ian

Looks good but I think if you can find one with extendable legs for the screw down jacks that are for more stability would be better. Not all can have the wheels removed and be bolted down as the ram peddles go through the gap the wheels make under the frame.

Roy mine is totally fine on the wheels even with the bike on the side stand and at full lift. A pity mine is just 600mm wide. A removable plate for the rear wheel would be nice.  You only find these thing out once you start using them, That's the beauty of a forum when you can ask and find out others opinion s before you splash out.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Trigger on September 11, 2017, 03:30:59 PM
I've had a Clarke lift for many years with metal wheels (as image), very very heavy to position or move around.
Providing the bike is central on the lift, I have found it very stable

These are not intended to be moved with bikes on them. Very easy to move with no bike, just pump it up to table height and a nice greasy workshop floor makes it glide  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: matthewmosse on September 11, 2017, 05:57:09 PM
Mine was £75 in the local car boot and vintage machinery rally plus auction. To say I was chuffed was an understatement, only downsides are it is a lot of space to loose when not in use, and mine has nylon wheels and one deformed when left with a horsedrawn finger mower on it for a long time, cost a fiver for a new wheel. Surprisingly stable even with a bike on it and moving it around on not very smooth concrete. It can be persuaded to tip up if miss using it to lift engines onto pallet racking without paying attention to just how heavy an industrial diesel engine actually is, moral of that story is if using it to lift heavy lumps of metal, try to keep them near the middle of the length of the bed, not at one end. Like others I found the short ramp a bit steep, a longer bit of plank makes a better ramp. Mine is about 60cm wide maybe more, handy to be able to stand on there when putting the bike on it's centre stand. Mine might be replaced with a tail lift I picked up off eBay that is electric hydraulic rather than hand pumped hydraulic and is wide enough to take my sidecar.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: BigAl (Alan) on September 11, 2017, 06:30:55 PM
Thank you for the very helpful comment Graham (Trigger). Moving the bike and the lift! ( I know it read's that way...lol) 
Handy bit of kit though, especially when chrome cleaning the exhausts.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Green1 on September 11, 2017, 09:19:06 PM
I have a cheap FoxHunter 1000ib ramp like this one. The only thing I did do was replace the chock for a decent one. So I can just run the bike up the ramp into the chock and let go without fear of the bike falling over.
 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FoxHunter-1000lb-Hydraulic-Bike-Motorcycle-motorbike-Workshop-Lift-Ramp-Bench-XL-/112546744647?epid=1439379995&hash=item1a344f0947:g:l-EAAOSwNm5Zp~41

Iv had everything on it from a Triumph 1200 to a CG125
The mower has been on it for a complete rebuild recently too.

The only problem Iv had was forgetting to lock the wheels once. As I ran up it it shot forward and only stopped when I rammed the tool chest.
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Moorey on September 11, 2017, 10:20:17 PM
Another thing that might be a consideration is how they lift. A scissor action goes straight up and down whereas one that the legs rotate up require more floor space.

Have a look at the position of the rear wheel and the side stand of the bike in Green1s link
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: Green1 on September 11, 2017, 10:31:03 PM
I never use the side stand as I have a chock like this one bolted too mine.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORCYCLE-MOTORBIKE-FRONT-WHEEL-PADDOCK-STAND-CHOCK-STAY-BIKE-SECURE-NEW-/162669922793?hash=item25dfe209e9:g:rDsAAOSwstxVEVj-

You can push the bikes in forward or backwards it does take a bit of effort backwards to get it up the ramp
So I get someone to push the nose of the bike and help keep it in a straight line
Title: Re: Bike lift
Post by: yozzer74 on September 16, 2017, 06:59:56 AM
Thanks for all the advice  I've ordered the Clarke one from machine Mart  had 40 pounds off list price .should be here by the 20th
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