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Title: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on December 25, 2017, 03:59:28 PM
Is anybody near to DS who could check two bikes?
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 26, 2017, 11:14:17 AM
Sorry Uli ..a long, long way from me..  and I don't know any members on here that are close ..he is in a fairly isolated bit of Suffolk. I  could ask someone on VJMC Facebook for you though if you tell us or PM me the bikes.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: flatfour on December 26, 2017, 11:21:36 AM
I'm around 60 miles away and don't mind taking a run out there on a decent weather day (such as the two that we've just had). I don't work any longer, so any day when the sun shines and it's not frosty would be a candidate.

The VJMC Suffolk branch has quite a few members who might be closer or could help more quickly if time is pressing, as Ashimoto KO has said.

If you need me to go, let me know details and I'll be on the case as soon as possible!
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on December 26, 2017, 09:07:47 PM
Thanks, mates.
Bikes in question are that 73 Suzuki T500 (for me)  and that brown 750 K1 for a friend of mine.

Don’t know much about DS beside buying parts from him and that he’s one of the big players.

That would be buying bikes via E-mail. Certainly not a recommended way in common.

Any thoughts?

BTW: what is OTR price?

https://www.davidsilverspares.co.uk/USED-BIKES-FOR-SALE/
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Woodside on December 26, 2017, 09:35:21 PM
"On The Road"
so he.... well a minion will sort all paper work and get it ready to use...
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Green1 on December 26, 2017, 09:37:57 PM
OTR Means on the road
The T500 looks nice and original from what I can see.
 My dad loved his and that was the bike that got me into bikes.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 26, 2017, 10:15:16 PM
He's also has this early squared off crankcase CB500K0 Uli.. I didn't want to mention it, in case it was one you were looking at.

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Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: flatfour on December 27, 2017, 09:40:23 AM
I'm not sure whether "On The Road" would help very much if you plan to export the bikes from the UK, as I understand it means Registered here with an MOT Test and Road Tax (although the latter is free of charge for bikes of that age).

I have bought quite a lot of spares from DS over many years and often, if I am collecting them, have wandered into the used bike warehouse. I think that the descriptions do match the bike concerned quite well and there always seems to be someone collecting a bike or two when I have been there. All of the older bikes that I have bought have been from within the motorcycle trade sight unseen and, to date, I have never been unhappy with any of them. Where problems have arisen, the seller has always offered to pay for repairs or has willingly paid for parts that I have bought and fitted myself to sort matters out. Personally, I would not hesitate to buy a DS bike from his description and photos.

In any case, if you do want me to visit let me know. I have been out on my classic and newer bikes over the past three days and the forecast for next week (when DS reopens) seems quite good. I'm not sure however whether buying or rejecting a bike based on my recommendations would be any better than doing the same from DS's own descriptions!
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: kevski on December 27, 2017, 10:36:28 AM
He's also has this early squared off crankcase CB500K0 Uli.. I didn't want to mention it, in case it was one you were looking at.

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Now that i like, i have always liked the 500's, i also like the higher bars of the stateside versions, but that sissy bar would have to go straight in the bin.
Title: David Silver
Post by: JamesH on December 27, 2017, 11:13:25 AM
Well if anyone is after an early ‘square case’ 500/4 in the new year do let me know. I have a couple I’ll be selling...
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on December 27, 2017, 11:47:04 AM
I just sended an E-Mail to DS:

Dear Sirs,

we, thats me and a friend, are interessted in stock number

102067 (CB750four K1, brown) and stock number
102055 (Suzuki T500)

Can you please send me further info:

- What documents are send with at "as is" price?
- Are the import duties to EU paid (VAT and customs duty)?
- Shipping cost to Germany, near Stuttgart: how much would it be for both bikes together?

Regarding K1:

- What exhaust pipes are mounted (HM300 or 341)?
- does engine number and frame VIN "match" (is engine number a K1 number)?
- any accidents known, frame straight?

Regarding T500:

- Does she ran or at least does engine turn?
- Any major dents/dings/dongs to the exhaust?
- any accidents known, frame straight?

Thank you in advance,

Ulrich  Woerz


@flatfour

Thanks for offering help. Will wait for answer first. Keep you informed.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 27, 2017, 01:23:11 PM
Well if anyone is after an early ‘square case’ 500/4 in the new year do let me know. I have a couple I’ll be selling...

Hope that won't be the one with the brown metal-flake paint James  :D
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: JamesH on December 27, 2017, 02:21:55 PM
No that’s a keeper Ash. I know you covet that one
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: flatfour on December 27, 2017, 02:41:12 PM
Ulrich, that’s fine. I’ll wait to hear from you.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: UK Pete on December 27, 2017, 03:35:32 PM
Uli, i have an early 1970 k1 mostly unmolested and  original I was going to sell in the few year

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Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Moorey on December 27, 2017, 04:09:49 PM
Does anyone know if there is any movement to be had on Silvers prices for bikes.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on December 27, 2017, 05:03:14 PM
Pete,
Please keep me informed with that K1.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: UK Pete on December 27, 2017, 05:34:05 PM
Pete,
Please keep me informed with that K1.
I will try and dig it out over the next few weeks
Its an original survivor  I bought at great expense all the NOS honda parts to restore it but just could not bring myself to do it they are only original once , I prefer restoring basket cases which have no choice I had it on the road for a couple of years and it has been off the road for a couple since

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Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 27, 2017, 06:38:19 PM
Does anyone know if there is any movement to be had on Silvers prices for bikes.

Well there is never any discount if you buy thousands of pounds of spares in one hit, so IMHO I very much doubt he will give any discount on the  mainly imported bikes he is now selling.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 27, 2017, 06:39:54 PM
No that’s a keeper Ash. I know you covet that one

Yea kind of ...I bet that one has the best seat of all of them   ;)
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: flatfour on December 28, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
I don’t think that DS will negotiate prices. A friend of mine asked this question earlier in the year in respect of a CB350 that he was interested in and was told no very quickly.

I do wonder however whether there might be opportunity to buy any parts to restore the bike at a discount?
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on December 28, 2017, 10:23:23 AM
I don’t think that DS will negotiate prices. A friend of mine asked this question earlier in the year in respect of a CB350 that he was interested in and was told no very quickly.

I do wonder however whether there might be opportunity to buy any parts to restore the bike at a discount?

Hmmm I would like to think so but don't hold your breath  ;) ...even genuine motorcycle trade people have to jump through hoops to get a discount trade account. I once bought £2k's worth of new parts in one hit and asked for free delivery and not a chance. Then I got a call that the package was too big and they were having to sent it in two shipments and that I would have to pay the postage twice  :(  Having said that, the order contained a set of Genuine HM300's @ £525 the set..so what goes around comes around.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 02, 2018, 11:38:36 AM
Got answer from DS.
T500 sold this morning  :(

Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Colonial-Clive (yindi) on January 02, 2018, 02:31:09 PM
I had an editor of a certain bike mag (neibour) ask for me as he had just done a 4 page article on the museum at DS and he was offered 5% on certain parts if needed, to say he was a bit miffed after all the free press he gave is an understatement!! 
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: UK Pete on January 02, 2018, 02:36:06 PM
I had an editor of a certain bike mag (neibour) ask for me as he had just done a 4 page article on the museum at DS and he was offered 5% on certain parts if needed, to say he was a bit miffed after all the free press he gave is an understatement!!
It's a well known that D'S would not give away the steam from his piss
The man has not got loaded by being generous. He is a very shroud business man
Who now rubs shoulders with the rich and famous

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Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 02, 2018, 02:55:21 PM
I made some advert for this T500 but wont get a commission.

Anybody here bought it?  >:(  >:(
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: UK Pete on January 02, 2018, 03:05:03 PM
Sometimes you loose out when drawing attention to items for sale
That's must be very frustrating uli

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Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 02, 2018, 03:32:03 PM
I feel your pain Uli..  :(

Freddie had this one

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-T500-III-T-500-1970-all-original-BARN-FIND-ride-or-restore-A-MUST-SEE/322631672174?hash=item4b1e58a16e:g:sDoAAOSwxBdZgxDW
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 02, 2018, 03:39:03 PM
The brown K1 is still there.
No HM300 but No.No. pipes. Look new.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Green1 on January 02, 2018, 09:24:58 PM
Uli this bike looks nice and original to me apart from the drop bars it even appears to have the original front tyre.
I would buy it myself as I love these bikes but I don't get the time to play with what iv got already.


 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-T500-Two-Stroke-Twin-1973-Great-Condition-Classic-Cafe-Racer-Blue/273007092249?hash=item3f907da219:g:SjoAAOSw3RZaS6Wa
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Seabeowner on January 03, 2018, 10:48:45 AM
I think that DS bikes are generally better than some importers and his prices realistic. Don't expect to haggle. There is an explanation of what to expect for OTR and "as seen" on the site. Love the way that 4 strokes get a 3 month limited warranty and 2 strokes 1 month! Once got a discount by saying that it was cheaper to buy some bits from CMS and his prices had got out of line because of currency shifts. But his reputation is high for backup and service from the guys there.
Wish I'd seen that green 500K0 Ash as it may have caught me at a weak moment.
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 03, 2018, 11:26:51 AM

Wish I'd seen that green 500K0 Ash as it may have caught me at a weak moment.

You need to speak to JamesH !
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 03, 2018, 11:32:51 AM
Uli this bike looks nice and original to me apart from the drop bars it even appears to have the original front tyre.
I would buy it myself as I love these bikes but I don't get the time to play with what iv got already.


 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Suzuki-T500-Two-Stroke-Twin-1973-Great-Condition-Classic-Cafe-Racer-Blue/273007092249?hash=item3f907da219:g:SjoAAOSw3RZaS6Wa

Thanks for the link. Looks even better than the one from DS.
Anyway, would be near to € 5.000,00 incl. shipping to Germany. A bit high for buying that one "blind".
Looking more for a project bike.

Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 26, 2018, 09:05:39 PM
Wonder if this ends up at David Silvers

https://www.mecum.com/lots/LV0118-314988/1970-suzuki-t500-titan-mk2/  (finished at $3.025)

or this

https://www.mecum.com/lots/LV0118-314976/1974-honda-cb350f/    $5,500

Title: David Silver
Post by: JamesH on January 26, 2018, 10:03:21 PM
Watch the auctions live here:

https://youtu.be/x4wNoQNK7vg
Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: MeilakJ on January 27, 2018, 08:05:25 PM
I would like to put in a couple of words in this topic .

I have bought quite a few bikes From David Silver lately and he is very nice to deal with . I ask for a discount and some times I get it and sometimes we do manage to arrange a price . Lets face it he does know the market . Also in my opinion as already mentioned his bike prices I think are more realistic than other sellers .

Also as for for after sales they can be very reliable in my opinion from return of parts ,  to even help getting an original lost title.

You  sometimes mention that he does not offer free shipping on parts ,  that is true but at least normally it is a fixed price. Also imagine for us abroad the shipping cost is much more expensive !!

Uli should you go ahead and be interested in a particular bike , just ask them for more detailed pictures and any history that they have about it and I am sure that they will fully co operate and help in any way possible.

The above is only my personal opinion from the experience I have from dealing with them.

Title: Re: David Silver
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 27, 2018, 08:14:15 PM
Thanks for input.

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