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Title: Life changing event
Post by: royhall on January 01, 2018, 11:01:08 AM
Well, a Happy New Year to you all. Unfortunately not for me..... Overnight on Saturday some scumbag got into and made off with my precious work van and all it's contents. He managed to open the door, beat the alarm, beat the steering lock and the immobiliser and drove off without anybody seeing or hearing a thing........ Including the van the total lost is about £16,000 of which only the van is insured. As I dont have the funds to start again I am now unemployed......At the moment it's seriously looking like the bikes will have to go.......So thank you "you thieving piles of sh*te" and I hope you use the proceeds to buy a contaminated needle and die in absolute agony. >:( >:(  Hope you all had a good one.


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Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: paul G on January 01, 2018, 11:30:51 AM
Hope you get everything sorted Roy.
You never catch them in the act but then again, it's probably a good thing thieving scumbags.
All the best and a happy new year.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 01, 2018, 11:34:26 AM
Really sorry to hear that Roy,what a sh*t way to start the New Year. Everyone's worst nightmare.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: hairygit on January 01, 2018, 11:35:38 AM
So sorry to hear that Roy, hope they crash and burn slowly to death in absolute agony!
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 01, 2018, 12:15:11 PM
I'm really sorry to hear that Roy. Why can't people do like most of us have to, get off their arses and work hard to buy something they need instead of pinching someone else's property and in your case, your livelihood. Good luck.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: JamesH on January 01, 2018, 12:39:41 PM
Oh Roy. That's a shit way to start the year. If it's any consolation, I had a similar experience back in October. The 'scumbags' took off with my 6 week old £46k BMW - partly my fault as I left the spare key in my work bag by mistake in the boot. At one point I was looking at a total uninsured loss but luckily I managed to recover the car undamaged. I'm £6k down though in repairs, loss of laptop, iPad, wallet, cash, and some 750 K0 parts. I do hop it works out for you mate...
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Moorey on January 01, 2018, 12:53:05 PM
Sorry to hear that Roy. Total scum. What is it exactly you do for a living. In case anyone can help short term to get you back under way.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Tomb on January 01, 2018, 12:56:00 PM
VVankers!! sorry to hear of such a crap start to the new year, I hope the scum are caught.

I'm now going out to se if my van is still there, I take the battery off mine, to keep it charged and to stop my van getting driven away, not easy for a regularly used van.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: kevski on January 01, 2018, 01:10:37 PM
That's a shit start to any new year,  quite frankly the thief/thieves need dispensing with in the cheapest possible way i.e a vat of caustic soda., society has gone to shit with the honest hard working people of this country picking up the bill every time. Hope it turns out OK for you Roy
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: UK Pete on January 01, 2018, 01:15:56 PM
VVankers!! sorry to hear of such a crap start to the new year, I hope the scum are caught.

I'm now going out to se if my van is still there, I take the battery off mine, to keep it charged and to stop my van getting driven away, not easy for a regularly used van.
Roy that is shit news
I have had two work vans stolen over the years with all my building tools in do I know the gut wrenching feeling it leaves
I don't know what to say fella other than  it's a fecking disgrace , crime rates are soaring us good guys that work hard and pay our way in life are just sitting targets for these wrong uns
Chin up fella

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Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: philward on January 01, 2018, 01:32:38 PM
Bloody hell Roy, what a bad start to the new year - as previous posts, lets hope that 'what goes around, comes around' (in the most painful way possible). Don't know what you do Roy, but I'm only in Wigan and if I can help with tools or anything to keep you earning, give me a shout - only got basics, but your very welcome to them
Phil
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: taysidedragon on January 01, 2018, 02:58:58 PM
Very bad news. Things can only get better. Don't let it get you down too much.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 01, 2018, 03:24:09 PM
Bugger The tube on the roof and extra locks always make a van too tempting
I have a brand new LWB version of that van and there far too easy to get into.
I know its a bit late now but proper slam locks are the best thing.
I recently did some work for BAC windows and there vans were attacked and emptied in broad daylight.
They sliced the rear doors top to bottom with a paddy's motorbike.   

Keep a close eye on your replacement because they always come back about a month later after insurance pay outs.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Trigger on January 01, 2018, 07:04:47 PM
If a lock or alarm can be fitted, it also can be easy removed. I always put my own isolator / kill switch on any vans that I have had so, I am the only one that knows where the switch is. 
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: SteveW on January 01, 2018, 07:11:51 PM
I had my car broken into last April. They took a load of my electronic test equipment I use for work.
Few weeks later I saw it on Ebay, even still had my name on it.

Found out that you, as an individual can not report an item to Ebay that you believe to be stolen, It has to come from a law enforcement official.

By the time the Police were involved, it had been sold on and the Police were not interested  >:(
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: UK Pete on January 01, 2018, 07:37:58 PM
I had my car broken into last April. They took a load of my electronic test equipment I use for work.
Few weeks later I saw it on Ebay, even still had my name on it.

Found out that you, as an individual can not report an item to Ebay that you believe to be stolen, It has to come from a law enforcement official.

By the time the Police were involved, it had been sold on and the Police were not interested  >:(
Buy it back and say you will do cash on collection if it happens again
Revenge can be very sweet

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Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 01, 2018, 07:47:54 PM
One of my brothers customers recovered there bike when finding it on eBay. He asked them to meet at the garage my brother worked in to have it checked over before perches. They organised it with the old bill who laid in wait around the corner.
It would have been a happy ending if the bloke loading it onto the recovery truck didn't drop it.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 01, 2018, 07:55:18 PM
Van locks are a complete joke you may as well keep it unlocked.
I have been shown how to get into the new shape Transit in such a way it unlocks all doors and disables the alarm in almost complete silence.

 
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 01, 2018, 09:16:18 PM
Sorry to hear your news Roy, not a good way to start 2018. It's gut wrenching having personal things stolen. I had all my work tools stolen once from my locked work bench. I and a few others knew who the lazy, thieving, drug taking scumbag was who stole them but we couldn't prove it. There was no work insurance either and had to spend all my savings replacing my tools. I was bloody angry. I had the last laugh when he lost his job a few months later for causing a fire after dropping his lit cigarette into a large open can of evo-stick whilst off his head. I was the shop steward at the time and refused to represent him at his disaplinary hearing, it was payback time as far as I was concerned.
I hope you get back on your feet soon and can put this behind you, don't sell the bikes, they keep you sane and give you good times to forget the bad times like this. Good things come out of bad, I wish you luck for 2018.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: matthewmosse on January 01, 2018, 09:17:12 PM
Really sorry to hear that, if there is a bit of help that can be offered like others I might have a odd bit of kit that can be loaned, or given to help get you back on your feet. A mate of mine had some tools lifted out of his van, spotted them on eBay, and bought them, had the old bill wait around the corner. They nicked the scrotes before cash was handed over, I hope this might happen more often, especially on this occasion. Sadly I've also had a mate put out of business after his shop was done over twice, the insurance renewal was what made him close his doors for good. Personally I'm an advocate of cctv as the newer systems can email you if anyone triggers the motion sensor recording in cirtain zones you set on the cameras, coupled with several cameras to cover each other and several angles I reacon they help deter the light fingered. Shooting is too good for many of them.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 03, 2018, 07:58:59 AM
Hi Roy ...why not put a list on here of the key stuff you need to get you up and running again ?

See PM
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: haynes66 on January 03, 2018, 09:07:04 AM
good idea, i was thinking of posting something similar
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: mike the bike on January 03, 2018, 09:20:24 AM
What trade are you in?  I'm guessing it's plumbing, going by the pipe box.
I've got a Record pipe bender to donate to start the ball rolling.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: petermigreen on January 03, 2018, 03:42:32 PM
Hi Roy ...why not put a list on here of the key stuff you need to get you up and running again ?

See PM
I'd gladly help with anything I can.
Chin up Roy.
Peter
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Orcade-Ian on January 03, 2018, 05:55:51 PM
Sorry to be a bit late in joining the offers of help but please post that list of what you need to be out earning again.  You helped me get those panniers from your good friend so I’m prepared to help in any way I can - even if it means having my pockets shortened so I can reach the bottom. 
Hope things improve for you soon,
Best regards,
Ian
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: royhall on January 03, 2018, 07:28:44 PM
Thank for all the kind remarks and offers of help. It is really appreciated.......... Sorry it's taken a while to reply, these have been a very busy few days. Am in the process of moving a shed and other items to get a vehicle behind a 6 feet high lockable side gate on the driveway.......... Am still waiting for a reply from the insurance company, and hence am expecting another mauling any day soon.......... I have been contacted by a guy who doesn't know me at all that has just retired as a plumber, and he offered to bring his van round with all his gear in it for me to borrow whilst I get sorted out. I had to thank him but refuse as I don't want to be responsible for someone else's gear going missing as the scrotes know where I am now, but what a wonderful gesture......Hopefully I will be partially back at work sometime next week......Thanks again, and I will let you know what happens.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 03, 2018, 07:35:38 PM
I can understand not wanting to be responsible for someone else's tools and van.
Nice to know there are still plenty of decent people still out there.

Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Sgt.Pinback on January 03, 2018, 07:37:35 PM
Sorry to here what happened to you.

Can’t you use this van and tools daily and bring it back overnight where it’s save?
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: royhall on January 13, 2018, 08:59:23 AM
Quick update..... Insurance has paid out on the stolen van for a fair bit more than I paid for it, so job done there. Only covered for £650 in lost property so that's a big loss........ Have spent the last two weeks replacing tools and am fairly close now, but still got to tackle the stock. Looking like total loss to me after all's done will be around £3.5k, so not as bad as I had anticipated.......I don't normally give a plug for an insurance company but I'm glad I was covered by Aviva as they have been really great. Can't praise them enough really as in the past all my insurance dealing have been a pain, but Aviva went beyond the call of duty so well done to them. So if you would all cancel your policies and got with Aviva, they deserve it.........A big thank you to everyone for their kind wishes and offer of tools etc, where else can you go on the internet for genuine offers like that......What a top crowd of people you are....Thanks again, Roy.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: UK Pete on January 13, 2018, 09:20:10 AM
Nice one Roy, good to hear things are on the up
This forum is good, for example I split up with my wife and was facing having to move sell up all my life long hobbies and live in a caravan I hit rock bottom with depression and some really heavy shit
Lots of people on this forum see me go from one of the top posters only to vanish , the pm, s and offers of support were amazing all from people that really only know me as ukpete on internet, just shows how are little group is way better than others
All the best fella

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Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 13, 2018, 09:25:03 AM
That is good news Roy. Sad that you are out of pocket but could have been a lot worse I suppose.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: haynes66 on January 13, 2018, 11:25:42 AM
good news, mate. at least you get to keep the bikes, hopefully. 
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Tomb on January 13, 2018, 12:28:13 PM
Good news, and well done Aviva
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Orcade-Ian on January 13, 2018, 01:28:17 PM
That’s better news Roy and hope you can keep that bit on your avatar for a while longer.  I’m sure the offers are still there if you need anything,
Best regards
Ian
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: taysidedragon on January 13, 2018, 03:41:27 PM
Great news. Rock on. 🔧  :D
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Woodside on January 13, 2018, 04:00:42 PM
hopefully will get abit more back on the tax bill next year as its a total loss ... make sure you claim or your accountant knows
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 13, 2018, 04:18:59 PM
Great news sounds like you had a good policy.

Don't forget deadlocks for the new van front and back.

When I realized how flimsy the locks are on my van I did consider swapping it for something else. But all manufacturers security seems just as pointless.
I decided the best form of securing my van was to sign wright it as painter & decorator. They don't need to know that I carry carpentry tools and spray equipment  alongside my general decorating tat  ;)

A carpenter I work with occasionally thought that was a good idea and has had magnetic signs made. He just slaps them on the sides when parking somewhere a little risky 

Good point on the tax side.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 13, 2018, 04:41:48 PM
Just thinking about the tax side off things. I don't think you would be able to wright it off as you would have to declare what the insurance company paid out.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: JamesH on January 13, 2018, 05:03:59 PM
Great news Roy, glad it’s not as bad as first expected. I do feel your pain mate - I’d def suggest getting some enhanced locks fitted to the new van. Here’s to a better remainder to 2018 mate!
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: philward on January 13, 2018, 05:32:39 PM
Great to hear its not turned out as bad as first expected Roy
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: UK Pete on January 13, 2018, 05:37:45 PM
Keep them bikes safe roy if they now have the keys

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Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: royhall on January 13, 2018, 05:53:29 PM
Job done Pete. The two bikes with the missing keys are stored away from home. Just come in from the cold after fitting window grills in the garage, along with huge hasps and padlocks and a burglar alarm system. The CCTV system is next to install, along with some nasty low tech carpet grippers along the top of the gates. Hope it rips the buggers hands off. Ha. ;D
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 13, 2018, 05:56:43 PM
I hate those carpet grippers they tear the crap out of my fingers often.
Make sure you face them the wright way so they dig in and grip well.  ;D
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: royhall on January 13, 2018, 07:11:41 PM
I hate those carpet grippers they tear the crap out of my fingers often.
Make sure you face them the wright way so they dig in and grip well.  ;D
Thought I may put two rows on facing opposite ways. Make sure the ripping is horrendous. When the burglar alarm on the garage goes off that will be the escape route. Man, they'll get ripped to pieces. Ha Ha Ha ;D
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 14, 2018, 11:08:26 AM
Be careful when putting grippers on fences and gates etc. If Johnny their cuts his hands on them whilst trying to burgle you and can actually sue you for his injuries! If you place a notice on the public side warning of the danger they have no redress. This is why you no longer see barb wire on fencing. Any deterrent must be visible or notified (electric fences one example).  The country has gone mad and favours the criminal rather then the potential victim, it's the PC brigade again! A mate of mine spreads filthy old tractor grease over the top of his fence, once you get that all over your hands and clothes you'd want to get away sharpish as you've left your fingerprints in the grease, perfect for the police 👌.
Good news you are back in operation though Roy.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: royhall on January 14, 2018, 11:50:43 AM
Be careful when putting grippers on fences and gates etc. If Johnny their cuts his hands on them whilst trying to burgle you and can actually sue you for his injuries! If you place a notice on the public side warning of the danger they have no redress. This is why you no longer see barb wire on fencing. Any deterrent must be visible or notified (electric fences one example).  The country has gone mad and favours the criminal rather then the potential victim, it's the PC brigade again! A mate of mine spreads filthy old tractor grease over the top of his fence, once you get that all over your hands and clothes you'd want to get away sharpish as you've left your fingerprints in the grease, perfect for the police 👌.
Good news you are back in operation though Roy.
I'll risk it. ;)
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: mike the bike on January 14, 2018, 12:29:25 PM
You can always put up a warning sign after the event.   Make sure it's a multilingual, all inclusive one. 
Don't forget the braille for visually impaired burglars.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: kevski on January 14, 2018, 12:38:19 PM
Be careful when putting grippers on fences and gates etc. If Johnny their cuts his hands on them whilst trying to burgle you and can actually sue you for his injuries! If you place a notice on the public side warning of the danger they have no redress. This is why you no longer see barb wire on fencing. Any deterrent must be visible or notified (electric fences one example).  The country has gone mad and favours the criminal rather then the potential victim, it's the PC brigade again! A mate of mine spreads filthy old tractor grease over the top of his fence, once you get that all over your hands and clothes you'd want to get away sharpish as you've left your fingerprints in the grease, perfect for the police 👌.
Good news you are back in operation though Roy.

I don't care if little Johnny low life get's hurt, i can live with that, and if he breaks in while i am there, well use your imagination, this country may have gone mad , but i can get madder.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: taysidedragon on January 14, 2018, 02:46:15 PM
Be careful when putting grippers on fences and gates etc. If Johnny their cuts his hands on them whilst trying to burgle you and can actually sue you for his injuries! If you place a notice on the public side warning of the danger they have no redress. This is why you no longer see barb wire on fencing. Any deterrent must be visible or notified (electric fences one example).  The country has gone mad and favours the criminal rather then the potential victim, it's the PC brigade again! A mate of mine spreads filthy old tractor grease over the top of his fence, once you get that all over your hands and clothes you'd want to get away sharpish as you've left your fingerprints in the grease, perfect for the police 👌.
Good news you are back in operation though Roy.

I don't care if little Johnny low life get's hurt, i can live with that, and if he breaks in while i am there, well use your imagination, this country may have gone mad , but i can get madder.

Well said! 😈
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Moorey on January 14, 2018, 03:01:25 PM
Glad your turning it around Roy. Just shout if you need owt, there's plenty listening. Nice to hear of a insurance company going above and beyond.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Tomb on January 14, 2018, 03:12:30 PM
Anyone remember the days when broken glass was cemented onto the top of walls, happy days when it was Ok then, when if some scumbag hurt himself on the wall it was his hard luck.

I was tempted to use old grease (servicing industrial gearboxes) smeared thickly on fence and wall tops, for fence preservation of course ;)
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 14, 2018, 03:46:48 PM
Does anyone remember the company that advertised in MCN in the 90's and who used to sell a tripwire linked to a shotgun cartridge! The trigger would hit the cartridge when the trip wire was moved by Johnny Burgler when attempting to break into your garage. Nasty shock for someone!Unfortunately you can no longer buy it!
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Orcade-Ian on January 14, 2018, 04:07:47 PM
Without wanting to be banned from the forum, how come we all feel the same about these scumbag thieves, plus (almost) everyone else we talk to agrees with us and yet folk like Tony Martin end up in Jail when protecting his property.  Democracy eh?  Like kevski, I too can get madder!

Ian
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Bryanj on January 14, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
I know i should have kept my Smith & Wesson model 29 when they took all the "Handguns" off me! Think Dirty Harry but Nickle plated
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Moorey on January 14, 2018, 05:20:12 PM
Does anyone remember the company that advertised in MCN in the 90's and who used to sell a tripwire linked to a shotgun cartridge! The trigger would hit the cartridge when the trip wire was moved by Johnny Burgler when attempting to break into your garage. Nasty shock for someone!Unfortunately you can no longer buy it!

This sort of thing. £20  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bisley-Security-Burglars-Intruders-Galvanized/dp/B0049ACMC6
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 14, 2018, 06:29:11 PM
That's the one!I'll buy two, one for the garage and another for the biscuit tin  :)
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Trigger on January 14, 2018, 07:06:26 PM
If it can be fitted, then it can be removed very easy with a battery angle grinder. Easy way is don't leave tools in a van, if they are not there, then they can't be nicked. And a sticker saying: "No tools left in van over night" doesn't work  ;)
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Moorey on January 14, 2018, 07:57:18 PM
If I see any of you ask me to tell you the tale about the night when I had tools nicked out of my van. Its quite funny really. Or at least I think so. A tale of instant justice.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Orcade-Ian on January 14, 2018, 08:10:08 PM
If it can be fitted, then it can be removed very easy with a battery angle grinder. Easy way is don't leave tools in a van, if they are not there, then they can't be nicked. And a sticker saying: "No tools left in van over night" doesn't work  ;)

Followed a tanker the other day that is used for emptying septic tanks
Notice on the back:

There are no stools left in this vehicle overnight

Brightened my day!
Ian
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: matthewmosse on January 14, 2018, 08:23:42 PM
Good to hear an insurer paying out and being decent. Glad that you are getting back up on your feet. I hope the lowlife are headed to being caught soon. In case they 're visit be sure to set up cctv and security lighting and if cctv goes in make sure they cannot nick the hdd containing the evidence. Ideally have it set so you get an email when someone triggers the system within a tightly set parameter. Be nice to catch the miscreaments red handed, though deterrent is probably better.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: mike the bike on January 14, 2018, 08:28:57 PM
I had my work's Astra nicked, along with my tools.  When the car was recovered the gearbox was missing.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Bryanj on January 15, 2018, 07:54:43 AM
Unless they have changed the rules you can buy Nitro powder for pistol and rifle cartridge reloading without a licence also shotgun cartridge powder and all the sizes of primer. You can not buy gunpowder without a licence though.

As to detrimental "sticky" stuff I used to use two greases one called Clydspin and the other Barbatia 4, the first to lubricate moving parts under superheated steam temp and press the second for seawater application----both took days to scrub off the skin.

I am of course, in no way, advocating the use of any of this to discourage "scroates" ;) ;)
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Tomb on January 15, 2018, 08:29:26 AM
Haha yep we have grease like that, Kluber grease. The first time we stripped the gearbox we tried to wash out the grease in the parts washer it just wouldn't dissolve, tried every solvent on site, nothing would touch it, ended up using a box full of rags and simply wiping it out and sending the rags for incineration.

When replacing it we had a shock Click (https://www.scosarg.com/kluber-barrierta-l55-2-grease-200gm?gs=yes&geoip_country=GB&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=shopping&utm_medium=cpc&gclid=Cj0KCQiAv_HSBRCkARIsAGaSsrDgj8nBLuAlF9mLbXiCUmffGCQLjzWRpfrY5Vhtnv8FnxVBcCGuxGgaAk1dEALw_wcB)   :o
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: RGP750 on January 15, 2018, 09:25:34 AM
use the shotgun trick to stop do as you likies nicking the Pheasants with caterpults.
worked a treat.
They don't come through the hedges any more ;D ;D
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: JamesH on January 15, 2018, 09:34:00 AM
Does anyone remember the company that advertised in MCN in the 90's and who used to sell a tripwire linked to a shotgun cartridge! The trigger would hit the cartridge when the trip wire was moved by Johnny Burgler when attempting to break into your garage. Nasty shock for someone!Unfortunately you can no longer buy it!

https://www.ant-supplies.uk/bits-and-bobs/blank-firing-alarm-mines.html
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: MrDavo on January 15, 2018, 10:15:52 AM
When I raced classics I had a gallon or so of used Castrol  R after every meeting that got painted onto my fence, which discouraged the scrotes from hanging around in the alley at the side of my house, as leaning on the fence would spoil their shell suits.

When said fence got smashed a copper turned up eventually, when I suggested it would be me in trouble if I were to chase them and give them a good hiding, he smiled, looked me in the eye and said “not if you were wearing a balaclava” :)

I’ve had a few old Mercs over the years, fed up of the badges getting broken off I took a new one and ground the back off on my wheel. It was that sharp I once cut myself washing the car, if I found fingers on the bonnet the story was going to be that I’d bought it like that and knew nothing about it.

The badge lasted over a year, the night it did go, I heard a scream outside in the early hours....
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: royhall on January 16, 2018, 07:51:35 AM
If it can be fitted, then it can be removed very easy with a battery angle grinder. Easy way is don't leave tools in a van, if they are not there, then they can't be nicked. And a sticker saying: "No tools left in van over night" doesn't work  ;)
That's easy to say Trig when you just have a few items to take out of your van. Look at it another way, if you don't want your workshop/shop/office robbing take everything home with you every night. Just simply impossible to do. The amount of tools and stock I have to carry daily does not give me the option of emptying it every night. The van "is" my transport/office/shop/workshop. Plus they stole the whole van so I would have had to take that into the house every night as well.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Moorey on January 16, 2018, 09:13:35 AM
If it can be fitted, then it can be removed very easy with a battery angle grinder. Easy way is don't leave tools in a van, if they are not there, then they can't be nicked. And a sticker saying: "No tools left in van over night" doesn't work  ;)
That's easy to say Trig when you just have a few items to take out of your van. Look at it another way, if you don't want your workshop/shop/office robbing take everything home with you every night. Just simply impossible to do. The amount of tools and stock I have to carry daily does not give me the option of emptying it every night. The van "is" my transport/office/shop/workshop. Plus they stole the whole van so I would have had to take that into the house every night as well.
Not exactly true about not been able to empty the van every day. Thousands of market traders do it every day in far bigger vans with far more stock. If you do it every day you make it easy to fill and empty.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Green1 on January 16, 2018, 11:38:16 AM
Empting them every day doesn't work if you still park your van on the drive.
Years ago my neighbour had his van emptied about a month later they came back and emptied it again.
He replaced the tools again and started putting the tools in the garage at night and backing the van tight up against the door.
About another month went by and they got in the van again realising it was empty they rolled the van forward and emptied the garage taking more then previously as there were additional tools stored in there.
 He quit building and started up a firing range in Spain in the end.

Its also worth noting I live at the end of a small cul-de-sac and no van or car normally goes unmissed day or night.

It turned out to be the traveling community causing havoc luckily the local static so called travellers run them out of town.

I'm starting to get a bit paranoid again at the moment as the non local travellers have started to come down the road again in there pikey waggon and they managed to get a good look inside my garage when the door was up. I turned around and he was standing almost in the garage clocking everything.
Not good when it was setup as a joiners shop and most of the bikes were in full view on the drive.     
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: UK Pete on January 16, 2018, 12:48:43 PM
Empting them every day doesn't work if you still park your van on the drive.
Years ago my neighbour had his van emptied about a month later they came back and emptied it again.
He replaced the tools again and started putting the tools in the garage at night and backing the van tight up against the door.
About another month went by and they got in the van again realising it was empty they rolled the van forward and emptied the garage taking more then previously as there were additional tools stored in there.
 He quit building and started up a firing range in Spain in the end.

Its also worth noting I live at the end of a small cul-de-sac and no van or car normally goes unmissed day or night.

It turned out to be the traveling community causing havoc luckily the local static so called travellers run them out of town.

I'm starting to get a bit paranoid again at the moment as the non local travellers have started to come down the road again in there pikey waggon and they managed to get a good look inside my garage when the door was up. I turned around and he was standing almost in the garage clocking everything.
Not good when it was setup as a joiners shop and most of the bikes were in full view on the drive.   
They will have noted what you have
Thieves also exchange info amongst eachother
I had my gate open and about 4 bikes were visable a moped with 1 person no helmet went by really slow gawping in so I shut the gate about an hour later same moped with 3 scumbags ballaclavered up came past my house I heard them coming so gates were shut, me thinks they were coming back to steal
I am a bit paranoid now
I have locks on both sides of gates so if they cut the front they still can't get in or climb over
But the scroates are so resorsfull now and always one step ahead and very confident now that the no chase rule is in place

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Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: Laverda Dave on January 17, 2018, 08:58:00 AM
If anyone out there has their garage located off a back service road I would suggest taking a lead and getting alley gates installed, a lot of local councils provide grants for this.
97 houses back onto our service road and burglary was on the increase (the thieves drove their vans into the service Road, over the fence and into the rear of the selected house, no one ever saw anything). Since the lockable gates were installed 4 years ago we have had no burglaries, garage break ins, fly tipping or 'anti social' behaviour. Each household paid a one off contribution of £20, well worth it.
The only downside are the lazy dog owners in the street who now consider the closed off alley to be an acceptable dog toilet and dumping ground for their building projects. A word in their ear normally gets it shifted though.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: matthewmosse on January 25, 2018, 07:15:04 PM
I know what you mean about taking far too long to remove all tools from the van, I do odd jobs since being laid off just over a year ago, some days I'm half an hour loading tools and the same again on return home and generally I'm carrying a small tool load compared to a plumber or electrician, and heaving a small local customer base I'm normally only going 2 miles to work so popping home for a different drill is not a disaster. I like aftermarket alarms and diy installed cctv on the grounds that although it may be possible to disarm, the fact I can do the instalation in a oddball way or put 2 alarms one with 2nd battery that is independent of the vehicle or building power supply. The other thing I find is I use Lidl power tools rather than Makita, De walt et al, lower resale value makes me less tempting to hit as a target yet they do work well enough and I can carry 2 cordless drills and still have spent a lot less than the regular contractors tools cost. Basically the light fingered can always get past whatever you put to stop them, but they are motivated by ease and profit, so making your stuff harder or less rewarding to lift always helps. Try to make next door look easier metaphorically speaking, other side of town, whatever.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: mike the bike on January 25, 2018, 08:14:10 PM
Have a sticker on the van;
"ONLY LIDL TOOLS LEFT OVERNIGHT "
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: MrDavo on January 25, 2018, 08:28:40 PM
An old mate of mine, who I rarely see now, co-owns a family haulage business, and gave me a pair of these large stickers, meant for the back doors of an artic, for my old garage doors:

(http://d1072371-2404.myweb.iinethosting.net.au/images/Chemical%20Signs/radioactive7.JPG)

Despite being a corrugated iron garage, which you could have got in with pliers (and I dismantled with an angle grinder, then left out flatpacked for the, er, travelling comunity to take away, which they duly did)  noone ever robbed it. I did worry about waking up to find men in silver suits with geiger counters surrounding it, though.

Other fun options include:

(http://d1072371-2404.myweb.iinethosting.net.au/images/Chemical%20Signs/infectionssubstance6.JPG)

(http://d1072371-2404.myweb.iinethosting.net.au/images/Chemical%20Signs/toxicgas.JPG)

(http://d1072371-2404.myweb.iinethosting.net.au/images/Chemical%20Signs/infectious%20waste.JPG)

Could cause neighbour aggro, and telling them would spoil the fear factor if word got out, but would make a passing scrote think twice.

The more I think about it, the more I think I might give him a call and get some more.
Title: Re: Life changing event
Post by: matthewmosse on February 06, 2018, 06:18:49 PM
A cheapo, run down looking shed is less likely to attract the wrong kind of attention, if it looks like it's a dump it's less likely to contain valuables. We have never had a break in, a few neighbours have over the years had valuables walk, locks busted in. I geuss virtually always having someone home and a run down looking place it is kinda obvious the stuff we have is also going to be well used, go 2 doors down the road, immaculate lawn and driveway etc, new car on the drive it's a no brainer the lawnmower and strimmer were going to be near new condition, well serviced and easy to sell at a decent price. Our cars are all over a decade old, the lawnmower is even older. It doesn't help if you need a smart van for work and dependable tools,  it's kinda a necessity. I'd be looking at trackers that alert your phone it the vehicle moves, fit 2, 1 more east to identify than the other.
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