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Title: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: martin_uk on July 24, 2016, 06:24:08 PM
If anyone has not seen a heads up and can be seen on ITV player.

Not as much detail as we would like, but some interesting stuff.

https://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=C111GB0D20160222&p=itv+motorbike+show (https://uk.search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=C111GB0D20160222&p=itv+motorbike+show)
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 24, 2016, 07:42:01 PM
They made a meal of getting that engine out!
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Trigger on July 24, 2016, 08:07:28 PM
They made a meal of getting that engine out!

A bit like you, your missis and all her mates ;D ;D
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 24, 2016, 10:19:06 PM
Ha, even so it only took about 15mins, now of course I know to lie the bike on its side and lift the frame off the engine (which reversed is how I put it back in, ridiculously easy!), amyway thanks for pointing that out Trigg 😄
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Trigger on July 24, 2016, 10:21:15 PM
Your welcome mate, just shows that a forum is the best info.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: onethumb on July 25, 2016, 08:03:59 AM
I got that info off this forum and told my father in law who said it sounded crazy till we did it, now he has great pleasure in telling anyone who will listen how to remove the engine of a cb750.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: MrDavo on July 26, 2016, 10:24:17 AM
Having seen them make a meal of it, I'll try the lifting the bike off the motor when I do mine. Guessing I might want to remove the points cover to stop it getting squashed, but protect the case edges there with some padding, don't want to damage them with the weight of the bike on that area. I wonder which scatter cushion she would least notice the disappearance of?  8)

I noticed that when they went to see Colin Seeley, one Mr D Silver made an appearance.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on July 26, 2016, 10:35:59 AM
Having seen them make a meal of it, I'll try the lifting the bike off the motor when I do mine. Guessing I might want to remove the points cover to stop it getting squashed, but protect the case edges there with some padding, don't want to damage them with the weight of the bike on that area. I wonder which scatter cushion she would least notice the disappearance of?  8)

I noticed that when they went to see Colin Seeley, one Mr D Silver made an appearance.

It was filmed at Dave Silvers premises... Don't tell Trigg or Julie though !
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: royhall on July 26, 2016, 03:15:19 PM
Best way to part engine and frame is on its side and lift the frame off the engine , don't try it with a complete bike obviously. For a complete bike do it the way they did in the show.

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Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on July 26, 2016, 04:33:47 PM
K0 Factory assembly

Chris in Japan sent me a load of those white gloves they all wear .. used them to protect my parts he sent me.

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Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Green1 on July 26, 2016, 08:54:14 PM
A thick sheet of Celotex works well and remove or replace your points cover with a damaged one.  ;)
Don't be tempted to leave the wheels on it makes it blody heavy  ::)
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Nurse Julie on July 26, 2016, 08:59:31 PM
Having seen them make a meal of it, I'll try the lifting the bike off the motor when I do mine. Guessing I might want to remove the points cover to stop it getting squashed, but protect the case edges there with some padding, don't want to damage them with the weight of the bike on that area. I wonder which scatter cushion she would least notice the disappearance of?  8)

I noticed that when they went to see Colin Seeley, one Mr D Silver made an appearance.

It was filmed at Dave Silvers premises... Don't tell Trigg or Julie though !
::) ::) ::) ::) No, that didn't wind me up Ash  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: MarkCR750 on July 27, 2016, 08:00:50 PM
Don't miss the motorbike show tonight, Alan millyard is on, with a few of his amazing bikes, he services my mates bikes , met him a few times, real eccentric, top bloke.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Johnwebley on July 27, 2016, 08:11:50 PM
Don't miss the motorbike show tonight, Alan millyard is on, with a few of his amazing bikes, he services my mates bikes , met him a few times, real eccentric, top bloke.

 agrees,I met him at Calne bike day,(this year is this saturday 3th july)

 he is very approachable ,and his engineering skill is awesome,
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Johnwebley on July 28, 2016, 03:51:55 PM
You mean the 30th not the 3rd?


 ooops,yes,  my fingers missed the plot !!!,  all the fuss about a Zero !!!
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: royhall on July 29, 2016, 01:16:59 PM
Can't believe he's ruined a good F2 to get easily available parts. Has he not heard of eBay. Just call him Henry Bikepusher.

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Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on July 29, 2016, 01:23:57 PM
Can't believe he's ruined a good F2 to get easily available parts. Has he not heard of eBay. Just call him Henry Bikepusher.

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Like it !!  Surprised he didn't go to DK . Depends if he sells the donor as a project with his old parts ..then he is strictly not the same a BP. Anyone know the guy he got the donor bike off ?
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: royhall on July 29, 2016, 01:25:13 PM
Don't know him but it looks like somewhere to spend an afternoon.

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Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: yozzer74 on July 29, 2016, 03:16:26 PM
Think he paid too much for it.surly he could have bought the parts he needed cheaper.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: haynes66 on July 29, 2016, 07:53:13 PM
as above, shame to break a good one when there are good donors for less money. i'm looking for a reasonably low miles f2 as a donor bike for mine from the likes of DK. still looking but i'll get there. must be nice to have loads of cash to throw at a project though!!
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: mike the bike on July 29, 2016, 08:13:57 PM
Can't believe he's ruined a good F2 to get easily available parts. Has he not heard of eBay. Just call him Henry Bikepusher.

My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Green1 on July 29, 2016, 09:47:47 PM
Theres no point in a doner bike full of crap parts.
When you add up all the bits he needs it soon pays for its self.

Don't hate me you know I'm right  ;)
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on July 29, 2016, 10:18:53 PM
Theres no point in a doner bike full of crap parts.
When you add up all the bits he needs it soon pays for its self.

Don't hate me you know I'm right  ;)

I agree .. would have done the same myself to resurrect such are rare special. As long as he keeps the donor bike frame and cases together as a sale , it will always be an entity as an original bike.  Never seen BP keep a frame and engine/cases  together as a 'project'. I know I will be shot down in flames for this   :-[ :-[ but I actually bid on some pristine 400/4 handlebars BP was selling a week or so back but I was outbid anyway . If you are looking down Bitsa ... I am ashamed ! (but at least they were not pattern ones  :)  )
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: royhall on July 30, 2016, 01:03:20 PM
The real reason for a £3000 donor bike is too lazy to refurb the parts they have, plus cant be bothered shopping around for bits. They need to make the TV show quickly, so getting all the bits in one purchase is the way to go. Wouldn't happen in reality as all the parts they said they needed are on either eBay or DK today. The PRR is worth around 10-12k depending on how well its done, they have already spent over half of that before they even loosen the first bolt. This refurb will cost way more to finish than the bike is worth. Its only being done like this for a TV interest story. TV make believe.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: tom400f on July 30, 2016, 10:18:29 PM
Just caught up with the available episodes... I've been to that garden back in 2012 and seen Steve and the PRR. I'm sure he was glad to get 2 grand for a frame and a tank  ::)

Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: onethumb on August 03, 2016, 01:04:38 PM
What will tonight bring?
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 03, 2016, 01:27:01 PM
What will tonight bring?

Thing is ..like him or not , what else is there on our kind of stuff?  Maybe they should do a .'Trigger & Julie'  Show ! Osbornes eat yer heart out !  ;D

Can just see Julie reaching for that rolling pin when she reads this.  :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Read Replica on August 03, 2016, 03:45:36 PM
Indeed. What other programmes do we have as motorcyclists. Henry Cole does have his own way of presenting, which personally I like, and is doing a good job bringing this great love of ours and obviously his self to a wider audience. Great to see the older bikes well represented.
Owning a PRR myself makes me even more interested to see what they eventually turn out.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: onethumb on August 03, 2016, 04:36:26 PM
Cards on the table. It was shed and buried that gave me the inspiration and guts to finally go and buy a bike and do something with it instead of sitting in the pub talking a good game. For this I thank him.


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Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 04, 2016, 03:44:44 PM
Quite enjoyed last night's programme. He certainly digs out some old legends (Alf Hagon last night). My mate Rog will have liked the J.A.P engined bike at Alf's as he bought one a few weeks back.

Perhaps he should have bid on something like this for the donor though. Supposedly has good forks & wheels, which is what they needed plus swinging arm.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB750F2-1977-Barn-find-/152190058262?hash=item236f3bff16:g:rewAAOSwmtJXWyAd
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Moorey on August 05, 2016, 08:13:07 AM
It's TV. What they chop up to get the end result doesn't seem to matter or the cost. At the end of the day the TV company picks up the tab.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: MarkCR750 on August 06, 2016, 08:24:07 AM
Yes it was quite good, almost competent!, he's getting better is old Henry, I suppose it was a shame to strip a reasonably good F2 but there's plenty about and precious few PR's, he seems to lead relatively nice restorations given the time constraints so I think it will end up a good one, cosmetically at least.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: royhall on August 06, 2016, 08:45:09 AM
When he went to the powder coaters with the frame, the bracket that mounts the rear brake reservoir was rusted off (a common F2 issue) and we all watched whilst they powder coated over the mess without replacing it. On the last show there was a close up of the frame and magically a new perfect bracket had appeared. The power of TV,  wish we had those super powers it would be a big help. Probably had to fit a pre booked slot at the coaters for a half day filming so the frame got done twice.

Liked the Quarter Master drag bike story though. Except for the daft restoration it's a good show.

I have a friend who used to think Top Gear was real. He was really excited about the Veyron beating the light aircraft until I pointed out that they didn't have 200 film crews strategically placed along the route. The film crew follows in a Range Rover so any car they are in is as fast as that. And it took over 2 weeks to film, but due to the quality of the editing it looks genuine. Very entertaining, but not real.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Yoshi823 on August 21, 2016, 11:56:28 AM
I don't like that pr@t Cole, especially after he said "This....is.....a spanner!!"  Technical  :-\

But taking an overgrown garden heap such as that PRR & thinking you've got a bargain at £2,000 would be a big mistake for many.

But £4,000 for labour to restore the heap into something better to look at is not good spending of anyone's hard earned money. If that's the going rate then i'm in the wrong job.

Shame then that from what I could see, there were quite a few things that wern't correct, like both of the handlebar clamps were round the wrong way & the rear sprocket was bigger than standard.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: royhall on August 21, 2016, 12:13:05 PM
Must say I've been sceptical about the PRR right through the series, but he was very honest about the costs at the end.

I did think it would cost more to do than it was going to be worth, and it very nearly was as he will be lucky to get the 14K he talked about (although Phil Read signing it may help). But not spending more than its worth is where I draw the line on a rebuild so I can't fault him for that.

How many people on here have got carried away with a build trying to make it the best it can be, only to find there is no way they will ever get the money back. Be honest!

Old Henry and his slightly juvenile style is strangely beginning to grow on me. I think its the honesty about the costs that swayed it.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 21, 2016, 12:49:12 PM
Lets face it what else is there on TV about Classic Bikes, so it'a a 'must see' for me.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Dave1234 on August 21, 2016, 01:44:46 PM
Being watching this show, good or bad I find it enjoyable. I see this is series 6, is there anyway of seeing the old ones. I tried sky box sets but only this series is on there?
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 21, 2016, 02:03:01 PM
Being watching this show, good or bad I find it enjoyable. I see this is series 6, is there anyway of seeing the old ones. I tried sky box sets but only this series is on there?

Don't watch the one where he restored a 550K3
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Dave1234 on August 21, 2016, 02:15:15 PM
Lol. Why is that, did the brakes not stop him also?
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 21, 2016, 02:30:44 PM
Lol. Why is that, did the brakes not stop him also?

http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php?topic=3682.0

You get a glimpse here and dunno if its the same bike for sale in second link (if it is it doesn't have the grotty front guard his mate Pete fitted in 2011)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ouykazqpsc

http://motorcycle4sale.com/sale/honda-cb550-k3--550cc-1977-ex-henry-cole-5297/uk
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Dave1234 on August 21, 2016, 02:51:59 PM
Ok, cheers.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: tom400f on August 21, 2016, 09:08:43 PM
That was rubbish. We didn't see it started up for the first time or even get to hear it....
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: whiteylfc on August 21, 2016, 10:05:36 PM
Henry Cole and his team contacted me for help with the restoration and I lent him the z bars he had copied and my petrol tank for colour matching (both were in the programme)their sprayer,Darren, also painted a Honda Britain alloy tank for me in PRR colours and the film company picked up the tab!!I could pick fault but at least it has restored another Read Replica and several other owners have now come forward.I now know of at least 50 PRR's and 30 honda Britain's.John White
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: bytio on August 21, 2016, 11:57:18 PM
I see it had CB 550 clocks on it, it's a shame he didn't restore the original clocks.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: K2-K6 on August 23, 2016, 01:13:45 PM
I agree with you Ashimoto, there are precious few bike shows available to us anyway let alone one that looks at the nuts and bolts side of things and doesn't just sensationalise biking because the people making the program see it as a highly risky interest.
The last two times I've seen any SOHC engine on TV at all was one 750 motor being dumped into the back of a car as balast in some sort of scrap heap challenge based in USA. Also based there was a modifier bike program in which they got a 750 K0 from the original owner and cut the poor thing up in front of him in a sequence that seemed to have more to do with psychological torture (they still seemed to be holding a grudge for pearl harbour) than anything bike related! So anything on this current one is a massive advance on that.
As far as I've seen with Mr Cole's programs, he has a good sympathetic look at anything biking, gives air time to anyone he meets in his ventures, is very generous in his praise for other's skills while being self deprecating about his own and appears endlessly interested in any avenue of machinery.
I think it's a triumph to get anything like he's producing onto prime time TV programming and watch any of his stuff, the last series  "shed and buried" with Sam Lovegrove is also good. For anyone who saw it when they got an old industrial engine fired up in the shed and it nearly jumped though the floor just made me laugh at the straight up honest enthusiasm and the sheer joy of getting any, even the most mundane, engine going.

One thing  if you read this Henry,  that MV on the last program,  if there's one thing in this world that doesn't need music overlayed onto it, that's it right there.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: haynes66 on August 23, 2016, 02:43:41 PM
as above. i actually like his presenting style and he tells it like it is. i enjoyed the 'worlds greatest motorcycle rides' series because he was honest and down to earth. sometimes happy with the day's ride, sometimes wet and grumpy.
Title: Re: Motorbike Show ITV restoring a a Phil Read Replica CB750F2
Post by: Johnwebley on August 23, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
as above. i actually like his presenting style and he tells it like it is. i enjoyed the 'worlds greatest motorcycle rides' series because he was honest and down to earth. sometimes happy with the day's ride, sometimes wet and grumpy.

 I agree ,sometimes Henry is a whoooos !! but you just get to know his style,
most of his programes air on freeview Travel channel 42,ideal fodder for a cold  wet sunday ,
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