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SOHC.co.uk Forums => CB500/550 => Topic started by: Trigger on August 06, 2017, 08:55:09 PM
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/honda-cb500-four-1973-UK-registered-not-a-import-/263126147519?hash=item3d438a61bf:g:4iEAAOSwjTlZhXmN
And for that money I would want the right clocks and switch gear >:(
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Price is indeed a bit high, he should be counting his rivets and getting details spot on. Not that I would do much better on that count but I've not stuck a bike on the bay with that price tag. Looks nice but my internet is too slow to get pictures big enough to see decently.
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RH switch is US, brake hose not in mudguard clip, rear indicator wiring bodged, different plug caps on two outer cylinders, not woth what hes asking or if it is mine should have been 4 grand not 2
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Like one of those comic games "spot the difference"
Ok, Master cylinder repro, looks like 17mm head on oil filter bolt, mirrors, rear footpegs, no plug on kickstart end, vin plate on frame, front guard is later rubber mounted, no lifting/grab bar, repro clutch cable with no rubber at engine end + no 4 has run very hot. + all that mentioned above.
Love the carbs and paint though.
Now must get back to fixing the fences before it rains again!
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Tell 'im he's dreamin' !! ;D
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Speaking from experience, even if he's fixed the carb intake rubber airleak on number 4 cylinder, that blueing is not going to polish out.
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My 2 Penneth
Suspicious no number plate I wonder why.......
Yes RH switchgear is US that leads me to think import
Indicators look like same as mine that was a K0 us import
Caliper doesn't look like my K0 one that has ribs cast in it ( suspect it's aftermarket)
Yes clocks are wrong
Yes master cylinder is aftermarket
I'd worry about that leaning on cylinder 4 as could damage piston
Interesting comment about the VIN plate on frame I didnt know that was only on us bikes
Having said that a nice looking bike but no way worth that money but maybe someone is daft enough !!!
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That cap latch is all Honda supply now thanks to the Yanks and safety control, original type catches are only available pattern
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Blimey, you guys have eyes like a hawk. It looked okay to me until I read through the posts. Next bike I buy your all coming with me. Can you imagine the poor seller. ;D :-[
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Blimey, you guys have eyes like a hawk. It looked okay to me until I read through the posts. Next bike I buy your all coming with me. Can you imagine the poor seller. ;D :-[
Best thing Roy is for seller to give a 'warts and all description Roy' ..if you get my drift ;)
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Looks like he's painted the engine in one complete unit and not sure if he's painted the carb bodies and carb mounting plate too. He certainly likes his silver paint, used it on the front brake pipe and caliper mount as well. Certainly well overpriced wants mint original money for a so so resto job
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While we're at it, a strange mix of crosshead and allen screws, and visible wires to the rear indicators that you shouldn't see, complete with insulation tape. Chewed screw visible on #1 intake rubber, he's been having trouble sealing them and doesn't have the right size screwdriver (best not start the JIS debate again). The steel part of the front brake pipe needs bending or replacing to get the rubber in the hose clip, and I don't understand why pattern master cylinders are all ribbed like that, some of Frank's bikes have them also.
Ultra picky point of the day, the seams on the gaiters shouldn't be at the side, but on the front/rear axis so the drain hole is at the back.
Yes we are picky sods, but this is top dollar, we wouldn't treat a two grand bike like this. It looks well from a distance though, my mate had a new one that colour and I always fancied it.
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Yes I'm never keen on the pattern master cylinders because of the ribbing and that the reservoir is mounted to the rear and overhangs the bars. Original hangs forward.
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Oh crap, i best not put my 350 up for sale it's got one of those master cylinders and a dozen stainless fixings, and no June 1972 air in the tyres, looks like i'm stuck with it :-\
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I can get some Japanese air for your tyres. I just open up some Japanese bubble wrap.
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I can get some Japanese air for your tyres. I just open up some Japanese bubble wrap.
Thanks for the offer Mike but is June 1972 bubble wrap :)
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Sorry, it's modern stuff. I used all the 70s stuff.
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Sorry, it's modern stuff. I used all the 70s stuff.
I will hold out until I can get early 72 air, thanks for the offer Mike.
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"...powder coated ..."
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Sorry, it's modern stuff. I used all the 70s stuff.
I will hold out until I can get early 72 air, thanks for the offer Mike.
Mines scrap as well, I have unleaded in the tank. Thats that ruined then, where's the 4 star leaded and the decoke every 50 miles.
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Sorry, it's modern stuff. I used all the 70s stuff.
I will hold out until I can get early 72 air, thanks for the offer Mike.
Mines scrap as well, I have unleaded in the tank. Thats that ruined then, where's the 4 star leaded and the decoke every 50 miles.
Back in the day i always used 2 star right up until unleaded appeared and the local garage done away with the 2 star, on a different note i bought 5 litres of petrol from the local garage yesterday and tested it to see how much ethanol in it, i got 3.5 % is that good.
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Better than 5% but not good. Only zero Ethanol is good in classics. Been a while since I tested BP Ultimate, think I will give it a another go. It was still zero Ethanol when I last checked in November. But the EU did give the UK government an order to comply by April 2017 so we shall see. This was the original link: http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,8911.0.html (http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,8911.0.html)
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In my experience BP Ultimate seems to be very aggressive on seals and tank liners, I persevered with it due to recommendations and having a bike at the time that needed high octane, but after 3 leaks in a year I haven't used it since, and haven't had a leak in 5 years.
On the other hand I've had zero issues with the often criticised supermarket fuels, and there was a link recently on this site to an article that explained why E10 is better than E5 from a separation and corrosion perspective.
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Yes but apart from that Mrs. Lincoln what did you think of the play? It's a bitsa bike and the seller is just trying it on. But there is a price it will sell at because not everyone who goes "wow" at it will pull it apart like everyone here has. My 550K3 has allen bolts on the engine, and the crankcase sides are unvarnished polished aluminium. it will never win a prize but people who haven't got the full spec in their heads still go "wow" at it so I'm happy, and if I do sell it there'll be someone who wants it for it's looks and not it's failings.
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True, only needs one person to pay over the odds, not realising they could buy similar bikes for 1/4 the price. It is odd but a lot of people do think that paying more means you automatically get better. Its not a terrible example but the price is just is tad optimistic given its lacking a few details. Hopefully that is all that is wrong with it and corners might not have been cut mechanically.
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Get a life people. This obsession with originality does my head in. If someone wanted to get my bike back to "original" they'd have to replace the immaculate Sankei OEM exhaust with an original in equally good condition or get an original rechromed; but would it be "original" because the chrome certainly wouldn't be. It's completely OTT and almost illogical for a 40 year old Jap bike. Mines got LED lights (except the main beam) so I have no charging problems. Allen bolts in the crankcases and on the carbs cos they're easier to work with. Electronic ignition cos it runs better. Pirelli tyres cos they grip better. It gets ridden every week not trailered once a blue moon to a show.
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Well said that man. I too have cap head screws knowing that they will come undone again if required.
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Its posts like this that make me glad I decided that I am just sticking to the anorak techie stuff in the future ! ;D ;D ;D ... Hmm the Lab calls ... got to go Igor is getting restless ;D
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You can do anything you like to personalise or improve your motorbike, that isn't the issue, trying to ask £8000+ for a CB500 is the issue. I don't know if any CB500 is worth that kind of money but one which isn't totally original and mint certainly isn't
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You can do anything you like to personalise or improve your motorbike, that isn't the issue, trying to ask £8000+ for a CB500 is the issue. I don't know if any CB500 is worth that kind of money but one which isn't totally original and mint certainly isn't
Well don't bid on it then! all the parts on it are original maybe not honda originals but originally from somewhere.
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I started this thread for a good reason and, that was to educate people on what is going on these day with regards to the prices that some people are asking for bikes that are not correct. It was not to slag off the people that build these bikes, either to the correct spec or not.
I do get annoyed with every Tom, Dick and Harry jumping on the bandwagon claiming to be a restorer or bods on ebay trying to sell incorrect spare parts. I have restored every SOHC/4 (apart from the 650) to a very high spec and built a few non STD ones as well.
What I have learnt over the years is every customer is different and requires different things, which is why us humans are all individual.
And if you members out there would like to carry on arguing, then start your own bloody thread ;D ;D ;D
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I do get annoyed with every Tom
Hey! What have I done!!???? ???
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Just as well your name's not Will. You get people firing at you.
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Sorry Trig, we don't need educating, the listing has been pulled now, owner probably read this thread, this sort of nit picking happens on every forum and it sometimes stops people from joining and supporting the clubs.
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There is a lot of people out on the web that use this forum for information on a bike they are interested in buying. Information is education ;)
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I agree with Trigger, its incredibly annoying when somebody tries to pass off something as being what it patently isn't to us but not necessarily to Joe public. I always try to be scrupulously honest with descriptions which is probably why I don't get as much as other sellers!!
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That basically sums up the objections to the listing, it's asking a steep price and saying the bike is highly original / correctly restored, it ain't, it's still nice, it's just miss described and overpriced. I'm all for a bike evolving to meet the owners requirements and even customs, my first cb550 was a handtail chop project, more non original parts than correct. Personally I'd not know most of these differences but also my most expensive cb500 was £800 not 8k so originality wasn't being claimed or inferred.
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What actually needled me is the thread title, the guy that Reconditioned and Not restored it was not concerned about a factory restoration, it's a nice looking bike, and whatever price it's up for is non of my business, it will only sell for whatever someone is willing to pay for it.
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You can do anything you like to personalise or improve your motorbike, that isn't the issue, trying to ask £8000+ for a CB500 is the issue. I don't know if any CB500 is worth that kind of money but one which isn't totally original and mint certainly isn't
Well don't bid on it then! all the parts on it are original maybe not honda originals but originally from somewhere.
This forum is for Honda four enthusiasts and telling potential bidders why it isn't worth the asking price and what to look out for is part of the advantage of being on the forum. If you bought that bike and found it wasn't worth half what you paid you'd be pretty gutted
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Not quite correct, any SOHC Honda is welcome for discussion here, from the humble C50 to the magnificent CB750.
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