Honda-SOHC
Other Stuff => Misc / Open => Topic started by: AshimotoK0 on July 04, 2016, 07:26:51 PM
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Went to DS Museum launch Saturday. Met Harold400/4 and his sister there too. Well worth a visit IMHO and he told me that if groups go from a club he will let the group in for free. First group is going to be Vincent Owners Club!
Pics on the bikes of main interest to me in my Dropbox.. James needs to sell him a 'proper' CB500K0!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/25eh7ojtkadjhgl/AAChW3p3BglmRXtOAMf8P1VAa?dl=0
intrigued by SOHC imprint on sandcast VIN750 points cover
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Looks like a great place to visit, very nice bikes from what I can see in your photos Ash.
There's some nice places around there near to the coast, if the other half passes her direct access in August that could be our first joint trip on her newly restored 400/4 :)
Dave
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intrigued by SOHC imprint on sandcast VIN750 points cover
;) aye ash i would say that points cover is a american after market part never ever seen one like that before
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been about for years >>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB750-Engine-Case-Points-Cover-/181122615175?hash=item2a2bbfc787:g:ZJ4AAMXQnXFRavnz
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been about for years >>http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CB750-Engine-Case-Points-Cover-/181122615175?hash=item2a2bbfc787:g:ZJ4AAMXQnXFRavnz
So its wrong then ! Wait till the SOOC vigilantes get onto that one !
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Maybe Silver had run out of stock of the OEM cover ;D
Just been through the pictures in the drop box, and have never seen so many repro and after market parts under one roof.
UVE 73K is listed as Gold, not black ;)
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I would go and have a look if I was passing that way. I think it's a shame that most seem to be US models and I'm surprised the CB500 four has Hagon shocks on. Nice photos Ash.
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Maybe Silver had run out of stock of the OEM cover ;D
Just been through the pictures in the drop box, and have never seen so many repro and after market parts under one roof.
UVE 73K is listed as Gold, not black ;)
Got a feeling that the Mecum sandcast bike was a much better example than the one he has now but its low VIN I suppose. The ex James May 'Sardine Blue/white CB250K0 has loads of incorrect parts (wheels etc) but the Candy Blue/White CB350K1 (exactly the same as mine) is an an absolute minter in every way, can't fault it. My photos are only a very small selection though, of the type of bikes likely to be in the 'Ashimoto Museum'. The 50's and early sixties models are immaculate and really rare. He deffo needs a Candy Jade Green 500K0 though and passed up on a friend of mine who was going to loan him one plus a Candy Red/White CB250K0 much better than the James May Blue one. My missus was searching around there for a BSA Bantam like her dad had ... sadly, she was disappointed!
Ian from Motad was there too ...says he's enjoying his retirement.
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So does anyone know the 500/4 in there? Guess it's an early Genuine UK bike (as Graham says Gold on the reg details DVLA)
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Oh no its happened. ..im getting picky....is that seat cover correct for a k0
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It is not a 500K0 and the seat cover is a repro ;)
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It is not a 500K0 and the seat cover is a repro ;)
Guess it's an early '72 K1 then is it Graham/Oddjob/Bryan?
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From the pictures and the reg, it is a K1. Did you happen to see the VIN and engine numbers ?
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Reg with fork reflectors tells me K1
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Sorry Trig .. no VIN's etc (don't forget I had the missus with me itching to get at the food then b*gger off to Southwold ! At one point she went off on her own in the car , while I drooled at the bikes, and ended up at Sizewell Beach ... lucky she wasn't bl*ody glowing in the dark the next morning!
This CB350K1 is the same as mine except mine has the funny little '69 only (& very rare) front fender (mudguard) reflector on it.
He also has one in his retail area for sale at just under 3 grand (not anywhere near the condition of the museum exhibit one) but a nice original example
I defy anyone to pick fault with the museum one, except it does not have the very early 1 piece pipes, other than that, sadly they were never sold here. Why? 36 BHP engines for a 325cc in 1968 was pretty good especially for a 4-stroke.
Note the front hub and the ex James May 250K0 on the right, in front of it .. Deffo wrong one on the 250 and the rear was the same. Should be the same as the 350K1
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Funny you should mention silver lines Oddjob. I got a tank in black from a guy down in Hampshire some years ago with silver-ish lines. He bought the bike new in 1972 but, his Honda dealer could not supply him one in candy gold so, he took a black one and bought the gold tank and panels (at trade price). He had the black tank in his loft since basically day one and I bought it off him.
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Sorry but as you know the 500 is my jam (as the kids would say) and that's a poor example of one. As Graham says seat cover is repro, the rear dampers are aftermarket, I'm not 100% sure on this and could be wrong but I always remembered the tank stripes as being white on them all and those look silver, could be wrong though as they do kinda make sense. Seat is a poor fit, chrome stripe no longer lines up with the tank chrome, unless of course DS left the seat slightly up for some reason.
Considering the amount of spares DS is supposed to have you'd have thought they'd have replaced all the polished casings for originals. Nothing against polished I may add but if your doing a museum you want it to look as standard as possible, like the British Museum have a T Rex with a chicken bone for a front leg, just doesn't look right.
Thing is that a friend of mine offered to loan him his genuine 1971 K0 500 (candy green) that he bought when he worked in Florida and shipped back with him when he moved back to the UK and then restored with Genuine pipes etc but he was told that the two models he offered to loan (a red 1968 fully restored CB250SS as well) were 'already covered'. As I said though Ken, the bikes I photo'd only represent a small number and there are some minters in there ( like a CB450K0 bomber and a 450D street/desert scrambler). I personally think it's well worth a visit as Suffolk is a lovely un-spoilt part of Britain ....you could be back in the 50's. The guy running the museum Roger Etcell told me they are not aiming for concourse exhibits just good examples.
There's a USA spec 400/4 F2 in there that I am convinced is not the correct candy Antares Red but man does the colour look good. Or did the US get a different shade at the end (it's the one with single front mudguard stay), possibly with fuel flap panel, not chrome flip-cap.
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Yes Ash, Suffolk is a stunning part of the country and well worth a visit anytime. The thing with this collection of bikes, by the little I have seen from your photo's, some are most certainly not 'good examples' and IMHO I think some of the bikes, or the way they have been presented let the brand down somewhat. We all have bikes sitting at home that may not be 100% 'original' or concourse and it would have been nice to see a collection of Classic Honda's that are the 'best' examples outside Japan.
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Oddjob, how can you say a CB72 is ugly, THEN say if you had the money you'd buy a CBX550? Now they were seriously ugly, those awful enclosed discs, that were more trouble than they were worth, then there's the paintjob, general styling, and those wheels, styling lifted from a 125 superdream! :o :o :o
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suggestion,is it worth organizing a weekend visit,
B & B for those that need it?
maybe a sunday visit and saturday BBQ at a local pub ??
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I bought a CB72 in 1975 and sold it the same summer (doubled my money from £32.50 to £65 ;D) My GF hated it said she had a 'nasty feeling ' about it and begged me to get rid . Seemed very dated even then so I am kind of with your way of thinking Ken (Oddjob) Same with the CB160 I had seemed very dated compared with my Cd175A sloper. This is what my CD125 is going to end up like and I think its a stunning little bike (same frame and engine as the SS125 & candy frame parts you mention Ken)
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suggestion,is it worth organizing a weekend visit,
B & B for those that need it?
maybe a sunday visit and saturday BBQ at a local pub ??
Sounds like a good idea. I wonder if we qualify as a 'Club' to get FOC entry? (The amount of money we have all spent with DSS over the years, I think we part own it anyway) 😃😃😃
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suggestion,is it worth organizing a weekend visit,
B & B for those that need it?
maybe a sunday visit and saturday BBQ at a local pub ??
Sounds like a good idea. I wonder if we qualify as a 'Club' to get FOC entry? (The amount of money we have all spent with DSS over the years, I think we part own it anyway) 😃😃😃
give him a break Julie ;D ;D ;D ;D Pretty sure as SOHC members and a group of a few, you will all get in for nowt, as we say round here!
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suggestion,is it worth organizing a weekend visit,
B & B for those that need it?
maybe a sunday visit and saturday BBQ at a local pub ??
Sounds like a good idea. I wonder if we qualify as a 'Club' to get FOC entry? (The amount of money we have all spent with DSS over the years, I think we part own it anyway) 😃😃😃
give him a break Julie ;D ;D ;D ;D Pretty sure as SOHC members and a group of a few, you will all get in for nowt, as we say round here!
Say that again when you meet me Friday Ash, standing in front of you with the rolling pin in my hand 😃😃😃 Nothing personal against the chap, I have never met him.
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suggestion,is it worth organizing a weekend visit,
B & B for those that need it?
maybe a sunday visit and saturday BBQ at a local pub ??
Count me in for that
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suggestion,is it worth organizing a weekend visit,
B & B for those that need it?
maybe a sunday visit and saturday BBQ at a local pub ??
Sounds like a good idea. I wonder if we qualify as a 'Club' to get FOC entry? (The amount of money we have all spent with DSS over the years, I think we part own it anyway) 😃😃😃
give him a break Julie ;D ;D ;D ;D Pretty sure as SOHC members and a group of a few, you will all get in for nowt, as we say round here!
Say that again when you meet me Friday Ash, standing in front of you with the rolling pin in my hand 😃😃😃 Nothing personal against the chap, I have never met him.
Bloomin 'eck your'e worrying me now... hope that rolling pin is the plastic variety and not made of ASH :)
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Saw the mention of the SS125 in the threads above and thought I would post a pic of my SS125. At the time I was only in love with it for 6 months and traded it for a Tiger 90. It's blue like the one in DS museum. Paid £189 (got £25 for my C110) for it when still 16 and rode it straight down to Dover as I remember. They say kid's grow up younger these days. I don't think so.
And I've never been to Suffolk, but feel a trip coming on.
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I had two new CB500/4's in the 1970's (1973 & 1974). Both were black with silver lines on the tank. I don't know if they're still around now (DCJ 75L & WFH 140M).
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I had two new CB500/4's in the 1970's (1973 & 1974). Both were black with silver lines on the tank. I don't know if they're still around now (DCJ 75L & WFH 140M).
interesting . the first DCJ plate is .was a Herefordshire plate,local dealer was Mead & Tomkinson,
last taxed 1984
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John, thanks for that. DCJ was purchased through Mead and Tompkinson, WFH only a few months later due to a misdemeanour by a dealer whilst on road test (they replaced the bike free of charge to me, having broken an agreement that they would not road test it after performing the first service if roads were wet - they did and fell off!).
WFH was found by me at (I think it was called Fraser's) of Gloucester. The bikes were in short supply at the time and the dealer who did the damage had said that if I could find a bike, he would have it transferred to his stock for sale to me. In fairness, he was as good as his word.
Damage to DCJ was, if I remember correctly, confined to exhausts and a few minor marks on one side. It was repaired and kept by the dealer who damaged it as his personal transport for some time, and then sold as used.
All a very long time ago now, of course. In those days I lived in the area, as my brother and mother still do.
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In the early 70's Neil Frasers shop was called "The Motorcyclist" and to start with run from a lock up but afterwards moved to Barton Street just over the level crossing (no longer there). he was not a dealer for any make at that time but had excellent relationships with many main dealers and would get just about any new crated bike for a customer. I know i worked for him!! You may have been to Nettleton motorcycles off London road who, apart from Meads in Gloucester and Williams on Bristol road were also a Honda dealer
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Bryan that's right, you've jogged the memory! It was Nettleton Motorcycles.
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They have gone as well now, was Clairmant motorcycles(run by an employee of the original nettletons) then they moved to a unit in Hempstead which cost them too much so sold out to Bransons. I haven't been in since they binned the 2-300 keys that I sorted by number for them------new storeman couldn't be bothered to look for customers!!!
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suggestion,is it worth organizing a weekend visit,
B & B for those that need it?
maybe a sunday visit and saturday BBQ at a local pub ??
Sounds like a good idea. I wonder if we qualify as a 'Club' to get FOC entry? (The amount of money we have all spent with DSS over the years, I think we part own it anyway) 😃😃😃
give him a break Julie ;D ;D ;D ;D Pretty sure as SOHC members and a group of a few, you will all get in for nowt, as we say round here!
Say that again when you meet me Friday Ash, standing in front of you with the rolling pin in my hand 😃😃😃 Nothing personal against the chap, I have never met him.
We had a visit from the delightful Ash this afternoon, first time we had met but it felt like meeting up with a long lost friend. How lucky we are that this forum gives us the opportunity to meet lovely like minded people like Ash.........long may it last. (I didn't hit him over the head with my rolling pin, it's rather a good one so didn't want to damage it ) ;D ;D ;D ;D
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As if you would
.As a nurse we can trust you to care for us poor blokes
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Yes John, I would certainly do that :-* :-* :-*