Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 03, 2021, 11:06:03 PM
The seller tells me I can send off the frame number to Honda UK and they will possibly provide the year of manufacture and original engine number and then I can apply for an age related plate. Anyone know if this is truly the case and gone though that procedure with a successful outcome? The frames are both UK regd,
Post by: 4wDaz on August 03, 2021, 11:14:34 PM
Post by: Bryanj on August 03, 2021, 11:29:05 PM
I have done the dating letter for imports before Honda UK got funny about it and said they would only do UK ones but they also said if they cant date it they will refund your money.
Try a phone call and ask
Post by: Nurse Julie on August 04, 2021, 07:57:48 AM
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Post by: 4wDaz on August 04, 2021, 09:04:46 AM
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 05, 2021, 12:29:57 PM
I tried the Facebook VIN to reg. service you told me about Julie but he drew a blank on both frame numbers. :(
I applied to Honda UK today on the best of the two frames and we will see what comes back ... fingers crossed.
I'ts a no find ...no charge service, so if they draw a blank I will apply for the second, but not so nice condition frame.
Incidentally ... I also came across a really early (must be 1st month of production) CB250SS (K0) frame (lovely condition) and matching crankcases with a few more parts available. Not interested myself, as I already have three, but if anyone knows somebody looking for one I can ask about it. Beauty is that it has a valid V5C with it.
Post by: MrDavo on August 05, 2021, 04:16:24 PM
In the end I got a letter from the VJMC which did the trick, I did the same for my CL450, which came with no paperwork other than a note of the NOVA number. The dating guy at the VJMC wanted photos of the completed bikes, as well as photos of the frame and engine number stampings. What I don't know is how they'd go on if you just had a photo of the frame number and no complete bike yet.
On one hand you don't really need a reg until its finished, on the other hand there are records in workshop manuals and websites of what series each frame number falls into, and when they were made.
Google can get the wrong end of the stick sometimes: https://www.bikerdatingwebsites.com/
Post by: Tomb on August 05, 2021, 10:35:30 PM
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 06, 2021, 09:32:54 AM
I've used VIN to REG, very good service for little cost. If there is now record - no charge. If there is record you get the reg number and can apply for a replacement V5c
I tried the FB service one Julie recommended but they had nothing on it. :(
Post by: Tomb on August 06, 2021, 12:55:15 PM
I tried the FB service one Julie recommended but they had nothing on it. :(
Yes I used them with good results but as said - only if the reg was transferred to the computers back when DVLA went that way, age related plate time :( which I've also done for a '66 Triumph I built from a frame.
In that case your original question is the way to go. I got a dating letter from Honda UK for a CD175 which DVLA accepted.
Post by: MrDavo on August 06, 2021, 02:52:08 PM
Sadly, I discovered that age related plates are non transferable. >:( It will teach me to be a greedy beggar.
I hope you get sorted OK Ash.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 07, 2021, 06:38:56 PM
Opinions guy's please : I already have a nice 'H' reg K0 frame and matching crankcases with V5C in my name. Should I just build that to K2 specs (exactly the same style of frame as the K2 model) .....OR... is there anything else I can do to get a reg ..other than 'Q' plate on the genuine K2 frame I just got. K0's are usually F and G reg with a few unsold being 'H' but the very early K2's had 'H' plates. So a 'H' reg would be correct for a K2
Only reason I want a gold/white K2 (only colour scheme sold in UK) is that I had one when I was a student for my 1st 'decent' size bike. My original HDT 2J is out there somewhere but due to DVLA's policy I can't track down the owner.
Anyway here is what Honda UK say,
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HONDA UK Info
12:10 (6 hours ago)
to me
Dear Ashley Derrick,
Thank you for contacting Honda UK.
Please be advised that we would also require the engine number and the model in order to be able to issue the Year of Manufacture document.
Please also note that there is an administration fee of £30 (£25 + VAT) which can be paid by bank transfer and that this can take up to 6 weeks if the information needs to be sourced from Japan.
We look forward to hearing back from you.
Once more, thank you for contacting Honda UK. If you need any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Kind Regards,
Stela Kirova
Honda Customer Service
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Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 07, 2021, 06:46:28 PM
This message is confidential. You may not use, reproduce, or transfer this message or its contents into any medium without the written permission of Honda (UK), Cain Road, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 1HL
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Assume you have their permission to post this Ash?
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 07, 2021, 07:08:27 PM
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 07, 2021, 08:50:47 PM
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Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on August 07, 2021, 08:52:19 PM
How are they to know?
Unless they have an undercover member on here of course.
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Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 07, 2021, 09:10:13 PM
Could you invent an engine number that’s in the right range?
How are they to know?
Unless they have an undercover member on here of course.
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A thought I suppose ... I actually don't need to invent one ...I bought a dog-rough '69 UK 250K0 for £200 a few years back that I parted out and it was fitted with a K2 engine ...so I do have valid K2 engine number 'cos I still have the crankcases. I also have set of un-stamped early crankcases I got from DS 'in the good-old-days'
Post by: Bryanj on August 07, 2021, 09:23:30 PM
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 08, 2021, 07:14:35 AM
Years back when i did a few imports and Honda UK wernt so picky i asked what engine number came with a frame and they told me the records only gave dom of frame. Go figureThe dealer guy who who had the frame (s) says he applies regularly to Honda UK and I asked to see a Dating Certificate letter he has received back from them. It definitely stated both the frame number and engine number Bryan, plus the Honda assembly plant it was made at. I didn't check if the letter was about a more modern bike though.
I found the crankcases that I already have for a K2 and it's number is miles apart from the two frames I found but has a really clear stamp.
It's weird with the CB250/350K range .. A USA CB350K2 starts with eng./frame no. '2' but for a UK 250K2 bike starts with a '3' ... and that continued during the model range.... so a USA 350K4 starts with a '4' but a UK 250K4 starts with a '5'
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Post by: Andrew-S on August 09, 2021, 09:31:20 AM
Well I got this (copied below).......
Anyway here is what Honda UK say,
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HONDA UK Info
12:10 (6 hours ago)
to me
Dear Ashley Derrick,
Thank you for contacting Honda UK.
Please be advised that we would also require the engine number and the model in order to be able to issue the Year of Manufacture document.
Please also note that there is an administration fee of £30 (£25 + VAT) which can be paid by bank transfer and that this can take up to 6 weeks if the information needs to be sourced from Japan.
We look forward to hearing back from you.
Once more, thank you for contacting Honda UK. If you need any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us again.
Kind Regards,
Stela Kirova
Honda Customer Service
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Ash, can you please let me have the Honda email address you used as I'd like to contact Honda UK for a dating/build certificate for my 72 UK XL250 Motosport and to ask how many were imported in 72-73, not many of that I'm sure.
Thanks,
Andrew
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 09, 2021, 09:39:17 AM
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Ash, can you please let me have the Honda email address you used as I'd like to contact Honda UK for a dating/build certificate for my 72 UK XL250 Motosport and to ask how many were imported in 72-73, not many of that I'm sure.
Thanks,
Andrew
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info.UK.car@honda-eu.com
Post by: Andrew-S on August 09, 2021, 10:24:50 AM
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Ash, can you please let me have the Honda email address you used as I'd like to contact Honda UK for a dating/build certificate for my 72 UK XL250 Motosport and to ask how many were imported in 72-73, not many of that I'm sure.
Thanks,
Andrew
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info.UK.car@honda-eu.com
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Thanks Ash.
Andrew
Post by: AshimotoK0 on August 10, 2021, 01:19:30 PM
Honda (UK) Contact Centre on 0345 200 8000. Option 3.
Post by: Andrew-S on August 10, 2021, 04:39:38 PM
Andrew... This phone link works great too .. got straight through to the dating department lady once I had pressed the right options.
Honda (UK) Contact Centre on 0345 200 8000. Option 3.
Thank again Ash, on my 'to do' list for tomorrow.
Andrew