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Title: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 02, 2022, 12:40:30 PM
Afternoon

Before I send my spare casings away for polishing I thought it would be good to remove the grease nipple ......... maybe a daft question - but how does it come out

Thanks

Simon

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Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 02, 2022, 01:26:11 PM
If you look inside the opening you can see the outlet that the nipple uses, a thin screwdriver or piece of metal can be used to poke it out from underneath. It's tight but doable, did this just the other day.

How much are they charging for polishing that, it's not an easy casing to do, lots of recesses and I'd be surprised if you don't get it back with some dull areas.

A really good polisher should be able to do it all and get it consistent, areas like the small part forward of the gear lever hole look to be contaminated with oil/dirt/grease and it's those that cause a lot of problems. If you look at it the surface looks blemished, like it has a small rash, that's the contaminants sitting just below the surface.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 02, 2022, 03:37:48 PM
If you look inside the opening you can see the outlet that the nipple uses, a thin screwdriver or piece of metal can be used to poke it out from underneath. It's tight but doable, did this just the other day.

How much are they charging for polishing that, it's not an easy casing to do, lots of recesses and I'd be surprised if you don't get it back with some dull areas.

A really good polisher should be able to do it all and get it consistent, areas like the small part forward of the gear lever hole look to be contaminated with oil/dirt/grease and it's those that cause a lot of problems. If you look at it the surface looks blemished, like it has a small rash, that's the contaminants sitting just below the surface.

Cheers - will get a screwdriver and have a go

I've been quoted £130 for the 3 covers

Simon
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 02, 2022, 03:45:03 PM
Thats quite cheap, have you seen anything else they've done?
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 02, 2022, 03:54:11 PM
Thats quite cheap, have you seen anything else they've done?

Only photos

I'm waiting on a price from another company to compare
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 02, 2022, 04:02:55 PM
Might be a sooper dooper deal but just sounded a bit cheap. Either that or Ive had me skirt lifted ;D
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 02, 2022, 06:52:31 PM
I see Philpotts quote £100 to do a pair of fork sliders, which I thought very reasonable considering the amount of work involved.

I've heard of £750 just to polish the barrels on a GT750. £130 for 3 cases is very cheap, I'd expect a poor job for that TBH but you never know until you try.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 02, 2022, 07:06:23 PM
I see Philpotts quote £100 to do a pair of fork sliders, which I thought very reasonable considering the amount of work involved.

I've heard of £750 just to polish the barrels on a GT750. £130 for 3 cases is very cheap, I'd expect a poor job for that TBH but you never know until you try.

TBH if they get it anything like without contamination then it will be better than those currently fitted - then I can take my time and look at maybe doing them myself sometime in the very distant future
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Sesman on October 02, 2022, 09:05:40 PM
Might be a sooper dooper deal but just sounded a bit cheap. Either that or Ive had me skirt lifted ;D

I was wearing a similar skirt and was quoted £160 for alternator, clutch and sprocket cover. TBH I was quite happy with that and the suppliers work satisfies my cosmetic eye. However, inspired by Oddjob I’m going the DIY route. Bet I regret it😁
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 03, 2022, 12:20:17 AM
I bet you do! ;D


Can i have my skirt back if you've finished with it Phil? ;D
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 03, 2022, 02:53:33 AM
Hey, you borrowed that skirt off me, bloody Yorkshire tealeaves.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Trigger on October 03, 2022, 06:28:54 PM
I see Philpotts quote £100 to do a pair of fork sliders, which I thought very reasonable considering the amount of work involved.

I've heard of £750 just to polish the barrels on a GT750. £130 for 3 cases is very cheap, I'd expect a poor job for that TBH but you never know until you try.

TBH if they get it anything like without contamination then it will be better than those currently fitted - then I can take my time and look at maybe doing them myself sometime in the very distant future

If you want a professional job, then send it to the professionals. Briteworx.co.uk

To achieve a pro finish you will need a motor 1KW minimum, a ton of mops , soap bars, lime and safety equipment. The part also needs to be in good order to start and most professional polishers vapour blast the part first to remove any corrosion and contaminates  ;)
 
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 03, 2022, 06:34:00 PM
https://briteworx.co.uk/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi

Website is down or dead when I tried it.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 03, 2022, 06:49:57 PM
https://briteworx.co.uk/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi
He's (Harry Overton) is on Facebook Ted. He's not far from you in Swadlincote. His work is absolutely stunning. A master of his art. 07861778841
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Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 03, 2022, 07:00:10 PM

If you want a professional job, then send it to the professionals. Briteworx.co.uk

To achieve a pro finish you will need a motor 1KW minimum, a ton of mops , soap bars, lime and safety equipment. The part also needs to be in good order to start and most professional polishers vapour blast the part first to remove any corrosion and contaminates  ;)

Got to disagree with that Graham, some are good, some are cowboys who claim they can do a decent job but do the exact opposite. I'd match some of my polishing up against any pro, I don't have half of the stuff you list and I've got great results with casings that a lot of pro's wouldn't even have touched. The end results depend a LOT on the amount of effort you put in BEFORE it evens goes near the mop, the more effort, the better the result IMO. I've just spent 5-6 hours on one float bowl because it had been chromed and even having the chrome professionally removed, it didn't remove all of it, there were patches where the nickel was still attached and that's a huge problem to remove. Took me many hours to sand it off, only done 3 bowls up to now and not looking forward to doing the last.
I'm going to attempt to restore an old 550 alt casing I found in my last job lot buy, it's been done the road HARD, literally loads of gravel rash etc, deep gouges and even some of the lettering like the Made In Japan has been affected, I want to see how good I can get it, I like doing stuff like that, just to challenge myself. If it turns out ok I'll sell it, if it doesn't I'll junk it. It's only time, I've got quite a bit of that on my hands at present.

BTW Ted, link doesn't work.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 03, 2022, 08:27:56 PM
He's (Harry Overton) is on Facebook Ted. He's not far from you in Swadlincote. His work is absolutely stunning. A master of his art. 07861778841

Thanks Julie

I've sent him some pics and a message

Simon
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 04, 2022, 12:11:50 AM
I'd be interested to see his price, work that good isn't usually cheap. Really must get my bead blasting cabinet working, save me a ton of sanding. £500 for a decent compressor though. Maybe the January sales can help  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 04, 2022, 01:12:02 AM
They're dirt cheap over here Ken,  shame I'd have grabbed you one but its a bit much in me hand luggage ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 04, 2022, 11:46:00 AM
One of the casings arrived and it isn't the exact one I ordered as it is missing the two dowels and has some slight crack like marks round the plug thingy :) nothing shows the other side and apart from this is in good condition .... do I send it back or will it be OK

Thanks
Simon

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Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Nurse Julie on October 04, 2022, 01:04:24 PM
They look like stress fractures.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 04, 2022, 02:53:45 PM
No, they are casting marks and every clutch casing has them. It's where the alloy was injected into the mould, the plug is the result of where it was cut off the mould.

Do you need the dowels Simon? I've got quite a few stashed around somewhere. A bit of heat and a good pair of pliers and twist them out. Some get ruined as they can rust themselves into situ but 80% come out and can be reused.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 04, 2022, 02:55:08 PM
They're dirt cheap over here Ken,  shame I'd have grabbed you one but its a bit much in me hand luggage ;D ;D

Bring it back in bits, a few parts at a time Roo.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 04, 2022, 03:32:04 PM
I agree with Ken they look like casting marks - they tend to oil stain and look bad. It would be an odd place for a stress fracture - see if it rubs off with some medium/fine wet & dry.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 04, 2022, 03:51:12 PM
They're dirt cheap over here Ken,  shame I'd have grabbed you one but its a bit much in me hand luggage ;D ;D

Bring it back in bits, a few parts at a time Roo.  ;D ;D


Ok mate, should have the complete unit to you in approximately August, is that OK? ;D
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 04, 2022, 06:11:13 PM
Cheers for the input - all off to the polishers tomorrow :)

Another plus - the two NOS push rods arrived today

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Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Bryanj on October 04, 2022, 09:39:55 PM
Bet they wernt cheap
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 05, 2022, 05:21:17 AM
Bet they wernt cheap
I suppose it is relative to need :) £45 each   
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 05, 2022, 10:17:42 AM
They seem to be a substantial piece of steel to snap.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Oddjob on October 05, 2022, 01:28:11 PM
Ends are steel, middle is alloy, it breaks where it joins.
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: Bryanj on October 05, 2022, 04:32:22 PM
The alloy was for lightness, aparently the originals were steel and were heavy and caused a lag on clutch engagement
Title: Re: Grease Nipple Removal
Post by: SPR on October 05, 2022, 08:15:23 PM
Well ... progress - dropped the caes off at the polishers ... failed miserably to get the kick start seal out but he said he would do it :) Probably a pig to get a new one in

Simon
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