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Title: Steering lock differences
Post by: Davelu88 on October 22, 2022, 03:31:04 PM
Just been comparing my usa cb550f on a 75 plate to my new uk 550f2 on a 78 plate that I got from mickf ( many thanks mick) & I have noticed that on the USA model the steering lock is operated by the ignition  but the UK one has the old style one one the headstock . I was trying  to search for a new lock for it but on the cmsl parts ficsh  it does not show the frame as having it. Any thoughts on what would fit .regards Dave



Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Bryanj on October 22, 2022, 04:29:22 PM
Bit confused as to which lock you want
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 22, 2022, 05:09:10 PM
I'm in the same predicament, my frame has no boss for a lock and I'm not running a standard ignition so I think I'd resigned myseelf to carrying a chain tbh, think there's no other way of fettling this scenario
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Oddjob on October 22, 2022, 05:24:08 PM
If you can get someone to weld a small metal bracket just under the top headstock ball race fitting you can have the steering lock inside the ignition.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 22, 2022, 05:31:56 PM
I woiuld Ken but my frame's gone for paint, sent it before I left including all the polishing and other bits that needed painting/coating. I think its a chain for me.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Bryanj on October 22, 2022, 05:37:17 PM
The lock that goes sideways into the headstock is ebay item 371480375424 BUT the stem on the bottom yoke needs a slot in it for it to work
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Oddjob on October 22, 2022, 05:45:37 PM
You can get an ignition lock that incorporates a steering lock as well Bryan, it has a steel pin which comes out of the lower front of it, in fact if you look at a 550 lock you can see the opening which has been blanked off, you weld what is essentially a half moon shape piece of metal on the ball race part of the frame, the steering is turned fully to the left and turn the key fully to the left and the pin comes out and goes just at the end of the new metal bracket, this stops the steering from turning but it only works at full left lock for some reason. My CB1300 has the same system as do most of the more modern Hondas.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Davelu88 on October 22, 2022, 06:12:27 PM
Probably a chain for me too but thx for the replies
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Bryanj on October 22, 2022, 06:13:36 PM
I think that was on the later F model anyway Ken, i just cant figure out from the question which one he wants
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Seabeowner on October 22, 2022, 07:15:05 PM
The UK K3 shows a lock. Is this the sort your F has?

https://www.cmsnl.com/honda-cb550k3-four-england_model14671/partslist/F26.html#.Y1Qyo3bMLKs

And it also shows the arc of metal for the ignition/steering lock, confused.com
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Trigger on October 22, 2022, 09:56:26 PM
UK and europe is in the steering stem , USA is on the ignition switch.
These look the same as the UK and was going to buy one but, don't have a bike to try it out
 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203651123421
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Lobo on October 22, 2022, 10:44:08 PM
I went through the same with a CB400F2; mine was a Canadian model with nice ignition key steering lock, whereas the UK versions had you grovelling under the headlamp. My question is, why would Honda go to this considerable extra expense of frame variations and lock hardwares? (the 400F2 also had additional frame differences wrt pillion footrest mountings iaw international markets)
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Davelu88 on October 22, 2022, 11:56:59 PM
Sorry Bryan , I didn't explain it properly,  my UK model has the steering lock on the headstock like Seabeowner has stated on the K3 ,
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Bryanj on October 23, 2022, 12:25:52 AM
So if you want the uk one its the ebay number i posted
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: JezzaPeach on October 23, 2022, 08:53:06 AM
I guess a simple alternative could be a short cycle style cable, run round a fork leg and a down tube. Not too difficult to carry and might even fit in the tool tray.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on October 23, 2022, 11:45:28 AM
In all my years of Motorcycling tbh I hardly ever used a steering lock then on my 250 Dream it was seized solid from lack of use when I tried to lock it!
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Oddjob on October 23, 2022, 04:31:51 PM
I always use mine, just a habit I picked up.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Bryanj on October 23, 2022, 04:53:03 PM
My 500, No 36, was knicked and pushed away after breaking the Honda steering lock then torched cos they couldnt start it
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Oddjob on October 23, 2022, 06:32:34 PM
The fact is though Bryan is that without the steering lock they could just push it away to work on starting it very easily and without any drama, breaking a steering lock is noisy and attracts attention and most times that's enough to put them off.

It's not foolproof but it is a deterrent. Every little helps, so they say.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Oddjob on October 24, 2022, 03:57:36 PM
Just found this which may be of interest, you can see the lock pin.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203932716412?hash=item2f7b564d7c:g:9FQAAOSw7a9cmNTN&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoDEyc5%2Bech8mvtupLK2ep%2BlL0DRc1eotmOvBjY3sAjwUmFyXhrf1tgUDUIoB0Dsa6akICrfFqf9FxBdZHibnBGBR%2BYneHpxiikk5TIPgtyCvA9oQTgmHCum3hd6wV0eLVB9HE7H4L7hFgHDz4L41shMDgHXL%2BuyFUC%2FiosqleHOHTgmdbeVH8cf8FSMz6i9FzDfKXOFViIEN2BwYzo1Bchg%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR_qT2aeBYQ

Most likely will fit the Cb550, but you'd need to check dimensions. Good price for a genuine Honda lock with 2 keys IMO.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 26, 2022, 01:44:01 PM
That clearly wont fit between the spokes or thread through the links on my chain for the front wheel Ken........ ;)
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Oddjob on October 26, 2022, 04:54:20 PM
Then you're not trying hard enough Roo.
Title: Re: Steering lock differences
Post by: Laverdaroo on October 26, 2022, 07:21:42 PM
 ;D ;D
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