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Title: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 15, 2023, 08:14:28 PM
It's been nagging me for a while that my chromed rear chain adjusters are not a pair the chrome - is acceptable on both.

One has what I would describe as a threaded welded inside boss, the other is like a captive nut.  Knowing my luck if I buy a replacement it will be something that matches neither.

p/n 95014-19000 £12.58 plus post at DS shown as Genuine Part on the 500 page.
 
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: Oddjob on November 15, 2023, 09:47:08 PM
Post a pic of them Ted. 95014-19000 is what they are supposed to look like. The 550 ones are different.
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 16, 2023, 04:34:35 PM
These are mine:-

.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53336240914_c2ea07048b_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pg9bdA)left tensioner (https://flic.kr/p/2pg9bdA) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr

.(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53336136583_9873fdea98_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pg8DcM)right tensioner (https://flic.kr/p/2pg8DcM) by Macabe Thiele (https://www.flickr.com/photos/187487200@N03/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: Johnny4428 on November 16, 2023, 05:29:47 PM
Never seen them with the threaded part outside the bracket, not as strong!
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: Oddjob on November 16, 2023, 05:55:48 PM
Actually the part number on CMS shows the lower pic as it does on DS as well.

My 500 however has the 2 upper ones fitted and they've been fitted since it was new. I also have 2 NOS from DS still sealed in the bags, I'll see what type they are later tonight.

I prefer the upper type myself, the nut tightening on them doesn't damage the chrome as much IMO plus less of a rust trap like the lower pic when water gets down the gap between the captive nut and the bracket. Plus you get more forward adjustment with the upper. Maybe do a test Ted and see if the lower adjuster will allow the spindle to go all the way forward in the slot in the swinging arm.

I bought 2 stainless steel blocks for that part Ted, the part which goes inside the slot in the swinging arm which the bolt tightens down on.
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: Johnny4428 on November 16, 2023, 06:20:43 PM
That’s an education for me once again Ken, never come accross them. Must have been a reason for changing unless different supplier?
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: Oddjob on November 16, 2023, 08:02:17 PM
Probably a different supplier Johnny.

Just looked at the 2 NOS ones and they are the internal locknut type, saying that they are clearly made after the initial stock had been exhausted. New type label on the bag, not the small part label inside the bag like they would have been if they'd been produced during the 70s.

I think Honda did another production run back in the 80s and all the labels changed to a more modern design, I think they would have tried to use the same manufacturers of the original parts but weren't always able to do that, hence why these are slightly different. They also made another run of the 4 into 4 exhaust systems but retained the 374 design with the printing on the back to comply with the USA market
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: McCabe-Thiele (Ted) on November 16, 2023, 10:54:43 PM
Okay so mine are both good, I'll check the slot mark is the same & stick with them unless that is different.
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: Bryanj on November 16, 2023, 11:54:47 PM
Honda actualy say do not rely on the marks each side of the swingarm, only that they are the same spacing both sides
Title: Re: Rear Chain Adjusters - am I being too fussy?
Post by: Oddjob on November 17, 2023, 12:05:47 AM
And yet they say to check that both marks are aligned in the workshop manual Bryan. I must admit to normally using them, once I've confirmed they are accurate of course.
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