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Title: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 02, 2015, 06:25:19 PM
Happy New Year all! :D
  This is (I hope!!) my final problem with my K0.. the previous 'experts' fitted this switch to the bike before I bought it and, although it works fine, I'm trying to fathom out what model this switch is from?? I know the kill switch should be black (more sleek) and the headlight switch should be without the parking light (which stays on regardless with the tail light off.) but I have checked the CMS website and they offer a RED kill switch.. Silver looks correct. I've looked at most 750 models and just can't mate up the same layout anywhere, including the F1's? Before I go ahead and put another 'wrong/right' on this bike I just wanted to check.
  Any thoughts? Is this difficult to change over? All four slides are now exactly seating right and I'd be gutted to disturb the settings at this throttle end? Cheers,
  Nige.

(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/nwbarratt/IMG_0859_zpsc9b1df59.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/nwbarratt/media/IMG_0859_zpsc9b1df59.jpg.html)
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: tom400f on January 02, 2015, 06:31:02 PM
I wonder if that is a pattern one?

Anyway may be this thread is useful: http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=60531.0
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Bryanj on January 02, 2015, 06:38:33 PM
Thats a UK model 750 or 500 switch
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Trigger on January 02, 2015, 07:21:06 PM
I have the same switch as this on a CB500K0 UK model. Have seen them fitted to CB750K2's. Is it a single cable switch.
On the 750 K0 your switch should have a black kill switch and look like this >>  http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=144_70&products_id=1925
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: AshimotoK0 on January 02, 2015, 08:07:56 PM
I have the same switch as this on a CB500K0 UK model. Have seen them fitted to CB750K2's. Is it a single cable switch.
On the 750 K0 your switch should have a black kill switch and look like this >>  http://www.yamiya750.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=144_70&products_id=1925

Also here (made by Yamiya same as the one trig is talking about but can be ordered in the UK)

http://www.saisei-europe.com/Shop/Products/c/switches/p/an-aftermarket-black-switch-assy-starter-lighting-dimmer-kill-single-cable-model-fits-cb750-k0
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: philward on January 02, 2015, 10:45:25 PM
That's the same as the aftermarket unit I bought from America for my K2 (from JTmarks I think)
Phil
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: 750rideruk on January 02, 2015, 10:51:16 PM
its the one for a K1 if it is a genuine one. Want to sell it if it has the push pull throttle cable?
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 03, 2015, 10:39:18 AM
Thanks guys, that throws a lot more light on the subject! Yes, it's single cable. The parking light staying on is also non standard I believe? With the correct switch it should extinguish..
   Either way, it 'ain't right. If you look closely, it's been hand painted. I'm reluctant to take it off, re thread the wiring loom through the handlebar and risk upsetting all four positions of the slides with the new switch, which isn't cheap. I'm going to remove the red paint off the kill switch delicately and asses the end the result. What were they thinking!!😳 thanks.
 
    Nige. Ps, it's the pull only cable on this K0 750rideruk, but it may well have the 2 locators within? I'll let you know.
Title: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: JamesH on January 03, 2015, 11:35:18 AM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/df9f8f12c5e10b5fa9083ff646f81b46.jpg)

(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/01/03/235f06529f136675fb878365e7593a8d.jpg)

Original k0 switch.

Shows how good the yamiya replica is...
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Green1 on January 03, 2015, 11:46:58 AM
That's the same as the ones on the K1 but without the red kill switch.
I always hesitate before using high beam as you almost always plunge into darkness when switching back

Mick   
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 03, 2015, 03:01:04 PM
Wow! Thanks James! I've never seen an original K0/K1 switch up close - could kill for one of those.. Apart from the proverbial rocking horse, I bet they're very valuable?? As for changing from low to that explosion of high intensity light on 'high' beam, Green1, indeed, there is a heart stopping moment of blackness ahead if one isn't slick enough with that majestic move!!😳 in my case I have this parking light gate between the two, er I think? There is definitely a gate but is that the space between the the high and low beam selector? As my park light is constantly on, can anyone confirm this is normal for the K0 or is it only common with the K1/2/3? I haven't the wiring diagram to hand as in my mates workshop. Should have back in next week but intrigued...😗
   Nige.
   
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Trigger on January 03, 2015, 07:42:28 PM
Thanks guys, that throws a lot more light on the subject! Yes, it's single cable. The parking light staying on is also non standard I believe? With the correct switch it should extinguish..
   Either way, it 'ain't right. If you look closely, it's been hand painted. I'm reluctant to take it off, re thread the wiring loom through the handlebar and risk upsetting all four positions of the slides with the new switch, which isn't cheap. I'm going to remove the red paint off the kill switch delicately and asses the end the result. What were they thinking!!😳 thanks.
 
    Nige. Ps, it's the pull only cable on this K0 750rideruk, but it may well have the 2 locators within? I'll let you know.

Strange ! are you sure it only has a single cable or is there only one cable coming out but, two holes ? Because every switch showing those lighting positions should be twin cable.
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: JamesH on January 03, 2015, 08:34:50 PM
Could be that the switch assy is a hybrid of K0/K1 parts?
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 04, 2015, 08:20:18 AM
Morning Trigger,
  Sorry, were you referring to the throttle cable? I was. There are 2 outlets, one is the 'pull' cable and the other hole is blocked with a screw/spring arrangement that would have allowed the K1/2/3 system to operate - a much better system of course. This screw reminds me of the cruise control system that locks the throttle in place on some bikes whilst crusin' the Highways in the States etc. do you want a photo?
  Nigel.
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Trigger on January 04, 2015, 11:03:43 AM
Morning Trigger,
  Sorry, were you referring to the throttle cable? I was. There are 2 outlets, one is the 'pull' cable and the other hole is blocked with a screw/spring arrangement that would have allowed the K1/2/3 system to operate - a much better system of course. This screw reminds me of the cruise control system that locks the throttle in place on some bikes whilst crusin' the Highways in the States etc. do you want a photo?
  Nigel.

Love to see a picture of the underside Nigel. The only switches i have seen with this lighting position have a push and pull cable, and some have the cruise screw but, the cruise screw is between the two cables on the switch. I am trying to work out as James said, if someone has made this out of two different switches.
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Lobo on January 04, 2015, 02:35:56 PM
Nige,

Dunno if this of use.... see Quick Tip #85.

http://honda750expert.com

Simon

Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 05, 2015, 09:21:04 AM
Thanks Lobo, it's a K1/2 switch without doubt looking at tip #85. What a great link and thanks very much! I daren't look toooooooo closely at other tips, it starts to show up some of the subtle original differences on my bike, such as the mirrors! I have the aftermarket Honda ones but nothing like the original, bet they're rare! My indicator lenses are aftermarket but correct labelling. All subtle really..
  Trigger, I'll take a picci of the underside later and see what you think.
   Thanks guys.
    Nige.
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 05, 2015, 02:36:35 PM
here is photo of underside.(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/nwbarratt/IMG_0860_zps91f58f0c.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/nwbarratt/media/IMG_0860_zps91f58f0c.jpg.html)(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/nwbarratt/IMG_0861_zpscd6fc282.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/nwbarratt/media/IMG_0861_zpscd6fc282.jpg.html)(http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/nwbarratt/IMG_0862_zps7e69321d.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/nwbarratt/media/IMG_0862_zps7e69321d.jpg.html)
 Hope this makes a little sense?
 Nige.
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 05, 2015, 03:03:30 PM
Oh,
  Quick photo of the offending switch which has mysteriously changed colour. Base coat on and final less glossy coat after a couple of days drying. I really didn't want to disturb anything further, so this will do for meantime. (http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u111/nwbarratt/IMG_0864_zps59a89c22.jpg) (http://s166.photobucket.com/user/nwbarratt/media/IMG_0864_zps59a89c22.jpg.html)
  Nige. 
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Trigger on January 05, 2015, 05:15:13 PM
You cant go by Honda 750 site, it is only for USA models.
The underside of the switch does look to be K2 but, i have strange feeling that this is a Australian unit. I have sent the pictures to a mate in OZ to see if he has seen this before.
Do you know if the hole that has the spring inserted, has a internal thread for the second cable. 
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 05, 2015, 06:05:39 PM
Nope, it hasn't. It's much narrower and seems to be designed  for the 'cruise screw'. Certainly not for a throttle cable anyway.
  Nige.
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Trigger on January 05, 2015, 06:36:16 PM
I think that James was right. The bottom being from a KO and the top from a K2.
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 05, 2015, 06:49:52 PM
I would have to go along with that Trig not hard to do as there is only a button to do in the bottom
Did you get that switch mate?
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Trigger on January 05, 2015, 07:02:14 PM
I would have to go along with that Trig not hard to do as there is only a button to do in the bottom
Did you get that switch mate?
Cheers
Bitsa

Got the switch mate, just waiting for some fork caps to arrive from france ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: K0 Handlebar switch, rightside.
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 05, 2015, 08:01:18 PM
Trig
email your address mate lost it and you said no rush ;)
Cheers
Bitsa
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