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Title: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 11, 2015, 05:55:13 PM
Hi Guys,
  I'm curious as to how you guys and girls semi inhibit/store/care for your 750's over the Winter?
  My own bikes, all Vintage Honda's, are stored in a heated garage and are NOT ridden during Winter due to salt and general Shite on the roads. I don't run the engines. The tanks are drained and the carbs run dry. I only turn the engine over by kicking her over around half a dozen times once a month in order to reduce 'ring line' on the bore. This is for around 5 months. I am rather against running them up to running temp then simply putting them back into the garage with condensation in the exhausts and oil.
  Wondered what you guys do? This was a discussion the other evening - sadly we just talk about vintage riding over Winter.  All bikes a well ridden in Spring - Autumn. But need to emigrate!😢
  Nige.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Green1 on January 11, 2015, 06:15:06 PM
I don't really lay mine up for winter.
I will try to use it on a dryish day it only gets washed 3 or 4 times a year and I remove the pipes once a year to clean them properly and give them a good coat of wax and polish.So far so good it's got no worse and no better.

Mick
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: BigAl (Alan) on January 11, 2015, 06:35:21 PM
I don't ride mine in the in the winter months. But I do fill the fuel tanks to the top and start them up once every 3 weeks to warm up. I was concerned with corrosion effecting the CB750 exhausts with intermittent running, but the NOS exhausts I bought from DS 6 years ago are fine.

Oh' the bikes are garaged/not heated

Alan
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Green1 on January 11, 2015, 06:49:31 PM
A heated garage would be lovely if I had a penny for every time Iv gone in the garage and the bikes are soaked with condensation.

I would probably have a pound or two. ;D
 
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 11, 2015, 06:55:50 PM
All good comments but unless the magic 16 degrees is here never run them.Drain,fill tanks and cover up is all I can do.If the magic degrees are not present once a week I kick them over just a couple of times.Its not the engine that is a problem its keeping the chrome bits dry
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Trigger on January 11, 2015, 07:03:45 PM
If you look at chrome under a microscope it is porous. That is where you get the speckled hen effect from. A good coat of WD-40 or Vaseline will the rust at bay and wash off in the spring.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Whaleman on January 11, 2015, 07:05:10 PM
For the last 20 years I have heard the advice of filling up the gas tank for winter. I have no idea why anyone would leave gas in the  tank. I drain my tank and put it in the car. I then dry out the tank over a couple of days and spray a bunch of fogging oil in. Coat the whole innside. Bring in where warm. No rust in the last 20 years. In Spring I go get fresh gas and fill. Dan
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 11, 2015, 07:06:48 PM
True Trig
I squirt this stuff for boats every where and so far aok pipes are now 6 years old
Bitsa
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Green1 on January 11, 2015, 07:10:10 PM
If I know the bike will be standing for a wile I will fill the tank because I have had a tide mark appear half way down before when its condensated

Does WD 40 make the headers yellow
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Trigger on January 11, 2015, 07:14:21 PM
If I know the bike will be standing for a wile I will fill the tank because I have had a tide mark appear half way down before when its condensated

Does WD 40 make the headers yellow

You was the WD-40 off before you heat them up again.
I have a few nos tanks in storage. They are all filled with diesel.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 11, 2015, 07:18:07 PM
Trig
I have read and heard that although right smelly shit it works wonders with most things siezed pistons,calipers and carbs.I have also used it to wash motor parts heads etc
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 11, 2015, 07:38:16 PM
Diesel lasts forever.
I have two 20 litre jerrycans of it in my garage from years ago when there was a fuel scare (and I owned a diesel )
It is illegal (?) to store large amounts of petrol indoors and it goes off anyway.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: UK Pete on January 11, 2015, 07:40:41 PM
I  do fresh fuel before storing,drain fuel bowls and acf50 any metal parts zinc and chrome, and remove the battery
pete
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Green1 on January 11, 2015, 07:42:54 PM
Is ACF50 as good as they say.Would I have to wash that of the headers before running it.

Mick
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: UK Pete on January 11, 2015, 07:45:21 PM
ACF50 is really good, i have never wiped it off the headers,but i suppose it makes sense to
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: hairygit on January 11, 2015, 07:57:27 PM
Diesel lasts forever.
I have two 20 litre jerrycans of it in my garage from years ago when there was a fuel scare (and I owned a diesel )
It is illegal (?) to store large amounts of petrol indoors and it goes off anyway.
The law says a maximum of 2 gallons in properly designed fuel cans marked with the " petroleum spirit, highly inflammable" warning, and in a garage or shed, NOT in a domestic residence. Although there is no limit to how much can be kept in a vehicle fuel tank???
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Bitsa (Ralph Wright - RIP) on January 11, 2015, 08:15:12 PM
Has any one tried to ignite diesel fuel and here its about 90 pence a litre?
Tryed it on a incinerater takes ages to ignite petrol on the other hand ran up the flow melted the plastic container in seconds
Cheers
Bitsa
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: hairygit on January 11, 2015, 08:18:38 PM
When I worked for a bus company in Sussex some years back, the cleaners/fitters used to fill a metal bucket with diesel and throw lighted cigarette ends into it to see the faces full of horror on the new/trainee drivers:))
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Green1 on January 11, 2015, 08:21:44 PM
Ha tried to light the fire once with brake cleaner as the timber was wet.
Six foot fire ball in the living room for a split second the timber was still wet when it flamed out. ::)

Mick
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Whaleman on January 11, 2015, 08:55:48 PM
I really like fogging oil. I fog oil the cylinders, inside each muffler (4 into 2 no fiberglass) and a small squirt into each float bowl after draining. It is cheap and easy to use. Also a quick squirt of wd40 into the iginition switch. I try to turn the engine over a half turn or so every 3 weeks. Just so rings are in a different spot. I think a good fogging of the cylinders does two things. One it stops rust and two I believe it soaks into any carbon around the rings in the grooves and the top of the piston. Softens it up to burn off when started. Dan
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 11, 2015, 09:38:10 PM
I bring my 400/4 in to the conservatory for the winter, warm and cosy and handy to tinker with. Tank off, bowls drained, battery off.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Trigger on January 11, 2015, 09:45:27 PM
I bring my 400/4 in to the conservatory for the winter, warm and cosy and handy to tinker with. Tank off, bowls drained, battery off.

You forgot to mention that the rear end is off as well  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Nurse Julie on January 11, 2015, 09:48:04 PM
I bring my 400/4 in to the conservatory for the winter, warm and cosy and handy to tinker with. Tank off, bowls drained, battery off.

You forgot to mention that the rear end is off as well  ;D ;D ;D
Oh yes, back end WAS out as well but now back in
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Trigger on January 11, 2015, 09:55:36 PM
I bring my 400/4 in to the conservatory for the winter, warm and cosy and handy to tinker with. Tank off, bowls drained, battery off.

You forgot to mention that the rear end is off as well  ;D ;D ;D
Oh yes, back end WAS out as well but now back in

I think nurses have too much time on there hands these days  ;D ;D ;D To play with bikes  ;)
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 12, 2015, 08:34:37 AM
A robust response guys and generally with a common theme, - my thanks. I never stop learning and appear to be doing something right!
  I might just pick up on the subject of ACF 50. It's not just an inhibitor but removes light corrosion as well. It is simply superb stuff! I might suggest that it's more effective than WD 40, but heh, any 'inhibiter' is not a bad thing.
I am very fortunate enough to own an old rare 2 seater aeroplane which turns 70 next year. I have spayed ACF 50 in amongst it's two main spars, inside the metal wings and around inside the fuselage over the last 23 years. No corrosion( and alloy can corrode in this country!) and is as good inside as it was 70 years ago. Amazing stuff! A good spot for this stuff are our exhausts.. In and around the seat frame, bike frame area, particularly if there are exposed, slight rusty weld spots.
  Just a thought..  Roll on Spring!!
   Nige. Ps, I'm running a huge event, "Japanese Bikers Day" at Sammy Millers, New Forest, Sunday the 14th June. The VJMC will make a strong presence. 300 jap bikes last year, mostly pre '88. Cash prizes and shields.
Love to meet some of you guys!😊
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: florence on January 12, 2015, 09:38:31 AM
I'm accidentally overwintering my machine due to apathy, a puncture, and rubbish weather.  As a consequence, the battery has gone flat.  Thanks to your topic I am inspired to get the thing out again, whatever the weather.
 
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 12, 2015, 12:27:43 PM
I can understand Florence.. This time of year is rubbish for me and many of my biking mates. I'm saving up for a bike I don't really have to worry about getting shite on it! Just get that hose pipe out after it's run!😳 sigh...
  Nige.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: SteveD CB500K0 on January 12, 2015, 04:32:20 PM
Ps, I'm running a huge event, "Japanese Bikers Day" at Sammy Millers, New Forest, Sunday the 14th June. The VJMC will make a strong presence. 300 jap bikes last year, mostly pre '88. Cash prizes and shields.
Love to meet some of you guys!😊

I'm currently negotiating with Sammy to get the CB750 cutaway engine into his museum. I hadn't mentioned it on here as the thing is still in my barn while they finish their extension. Assuming that it takes them a couple of months to clean it up and present it in a museum format, June could be good for an "official unveiling". Also, it was built by Dave Jupp of VJMC fame...

PM me if you're interested and we could maybe set up a local meet.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Sparrow1 on January 13, 2015, 09:00:01 AM
Pm sent Steve..
 Nige.
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: MarkCR750 on January 13, 2015, 06:23:01 PM
I used to coat everything that was likely to rust with WD40 until one very cold and damp morning I dragged the bike out out the garage and after a minute or so the WD turned white, ie emulsified with the moisture in the air, since then I give everything a spray with "wood silk " furniture polish, contains no water or silicates and hasn't emulsified as the WD did, also makes your frame look stunningly shiny!, can't fault it 😄
Title: Re: Winter storage for our lovely 750's (and others!)
Post by: Seamus on January 13, 2015, 06:52:37 PM
In the old days when I used to ride all year round, it was a case of coating everything metal in a thick dose of vaseline and washing off in the spring with parrafin. But these days, bike in the garage fora couple of months in a vac bag. Put it away on a cold dry day when there is no moisture in the air. Done and dusted for the short time needed.
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