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CB500/550 / (now) help with timing marks
« on: August 25, 2012, 06:56:50 PM »
Here is the camshaft alignment vs points alignment.

There are two lines against the F mark.
I am matched against the first one.
Moving the engine a few degrees brings up the second ..

Is this correct ?

I cannot seem to be able to release any tension on the camchain to walk a link around the sprocket to see what effect that has.... no amount of fiddling on the adjuster does anything. The chain is really tight.
It took me hours to get the sprocket off/on the other week.



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CB500/550 / Re: New head gasket blowing and lumpy as hell ...
« on: August 22, 2012, 03:57:11 PM »

I thought I was 100% certain on the cam timing.
I lined it all up and drew a little picture before taking it off and matched the manual and picture on putting it back together.
I also thought I had removed all dirt as there were no gasket traces and I was almost polishing with meths .. :D

everything went together fairly cleanly although the barrels were an utter faff, even with three of us.

I'll do a compression check, balance the carbs, check for a misfire, try and seal the exhaust and then I'll curse and dismantle it all again.




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CB500/550 / New head gasket blowing and lumpy as hell ...
« on: August 22, 2012, 03:12:56 PM »
Ok.

I done the strip enough to get a good look inside:

http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,4615.15.html

I could not find where that piece has come from. It's conceivable that the damage was already fixed as it looks like some bits have been apart before.
I changed the camchain, re-ringed (the rings were about .4/.45mm) and honed the bores as they were ok.
All the valves came out for grinding and non-bent ones went back where required.
I found an OEM gasket kit at an autoumble for a tenner. In it's original sealed bag.

Took a while to fire up but immediately the head gasket was blowing everywhere and then settled down to a very small blow at the front only (and I mean tiny). I torqued it all down in the order, and to the numbers, in the book and even waited 48 hours and did it again. I am thinking a 20 year old head gaskets might not have been the best idea.
More worrying is that the engine however sounds sick. Really sick. I guess the blow is upsetting compression but I can check that with my tester at some point.
It has the original exhaust (4-1) and it's now leaking badly where it joins the silencer, in one rusty lump, which isn't helping. Not sure this fixable as it's tough to get in there with sealant or the welder.
It will hold an idle but it won't rev at all.
On the plus side, I cannot hear the camchain now  ;)

I am thinking that I could lift the rocker and re-torque or am I kidding myself and I need to take it all apart AGAIN and do the whole top end AGAIN.
I am also thinking that it could be a misfire or carb synch causing the lumpy running  ...

For the amount of time and money, so far, I could have completely built three old british bikes from scratch.




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CB500/550 / Re: valve collet down the cam-chain tunnel
« on: August 09, 2012, 10:59:58 PM »
hmmm.. gears seem ok. I'll see how it goes.

I put the rocker cover back on.
I backed off all the valve adjusters to make it a bit easier to seat; and then reset the clearances.
Some rockers seem to be bouncing back off the cam with a definate and loud "thunk" - just turning slowly on the kickstart.

Looks like I've bent the valves and trashed the head then ...

http://forums.sohc4.net/index.php?topic=69244.msg766351#msg766351

It's not been a good week.

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CB500/550 / Re: valve collet down the cam-chain tunnel
« on: August 09, 2012, 05:21:25 PM »
Got the collet; A tense hour with rebuild visions in my head. ;)
Bought a magnet on extendy thing; but no joy from above.
Glued rare earth magnet to bendy copper wire and fished around underneath (above primary); eventual success.

Here is the bit that was in an otherwse very clean sump (and I own british and russian bikes and am used to sludge).
It's sat next to a 5p piece.

It's snapped off something and is steel (i.e. magnetic).
Might be a tooth off a gear ?


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CB500/550 / valve collet down the cam-chain tunnel
« on: August 08, 2012, 04:27:13 PM »

I was changing the valve stem oil seals on my CB550/4 using the string down the plug hole.
I done 7 but on the last one, the collet managed to flick out and avoid all the rags stuffing plug holes and camchain tunnel and disappear down the front hole where the cam chain runs.

removing the sump failed to find it.. (although there is a large scary piece of metal in there - but it's very clean apart from that) ...
Question is what is the risk here ?  It's a big enough chunk to cause damage.
I turned the engine a fair few times (plugs and rockers are off so it spins well) and it seems ok.....

The cam chain bottom run is above the primary chain, so it's hard to know.
The primary chain sprocket actually moves maybe 5mm side to side, which is a worry as well.


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CB500/550 / Re: White smoke ?
« on: April 16, 2012, 09:45:50 AM »
It doesn't smoke on startup; takes a few moments.
Unfortunately, it does smell like OIL  :(
I get a really oily plug on cylinder 1 while idling (but not if I shut down at speed and pull it out).

I found this on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_9Y8Y2vEXw

and I also found a man that had used the same method on his car (different tool though - some sort of lever through the rockers)

The tool used in the youtube video is not available over here, while this looks to be similar:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sykes-Pickavant-03920000-VALVE-COLLET-INSTALLER-/170817861754?pt=UK_Measuring_Tools_Levels&hash=item27c589b87a

Has anyone here tried this job ?
Is there a better spring compressor (than these hammer types ones shown in the video) as all I have are the clamp ones for OHV and scissor ones for sidevalves (both of which involve having the head on the bench).

If I take the head off, then I may as well lift the barrel as the base gasket will be disturbed. If I lift the barrel, then I may as well be checking and maybe changing rings and maybe the camchain (just because I am there). Voila.. hundreds of pounds and most of a weekend...

Or I just leave it alone until something serious goes wrong.


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CB500/550 / White smoke ?
« on: April 05, 2012, 01:37:40 PM »
1977 CB550 (yup the new one- well new to me anyway).

It now appears to want to smoke at idle/on startup.
The funny thing is that it's not smoking when running. At all (I had a mate behind me). Which is what I would expect if it was burning oil.
The smoke is also not really hanging about in clouds and I originally thought it was condensation...
I stopped for petrol and it smoked again when started.

I have a garage full of old Brits (and an old BMW) and am fully aware of the lovely effects of wet sumping (and leaving your BMW parked on it's sidestand) as well as leaky rings etc ... it's not the same .... the Beemer would blow smoke for miles for example on what could only have been a spoonful of oil running down the valve ..

I did about 50 miles last night (in the snow.... lovely) and everything else was good.

I changed the oil (put 20/50 mineral - I have a BIG tub for all the bikes that use it) and it's not overfilled with oil or anything silly. I also chucked in new air filter
I did various bits and pieces (timing, camchain, clearances etc) but nothing was wildly out. In fact, the rocker gaps were all good and the timing only needed the points gaps setting (well too large) to pull the timing back to where it should be (on advance on the strobe)

The plugs seem ok in colour as well.
to be fair this CB550 is a bit more modern than what I am used to .. but I am thinking the valve stem oil seals are not liking this sudden increase in use ....and just chucking a bit of oil in ...

cheers

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The forks are ok; it's the image.
A "proper"sidestand didn't sort it out; it still leans too far for my liking. Oh well.

It's now MOT'd.
Charging sorted by a new reg/rectifier and a few wiring bodges sorted with proper connectors and the soldering iron.
Valve clearances fine. Timing sorted,  oil changed, new oil/air filter, carbs balanced and cam chain tensioner duly, er, tensioned.

Just a new seat needed .... old base is broken ...


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eight hundred of your english folding currency.
not cheap enough to be a bargain but about right.

The clutch cover looks like it was chromed but it's chipped/cracked/flaked ?
Is it an alloy cover ? Can I just strip it and polish it ?



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It is an import of some kind, I think, as the logbook stub says it was registered in 1990.. sorry just thought to check that

Here is the stand:



Are there differences between import/UK model seats or just between K and F

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Just bought this:

CB550F-2108190


Is this a U.S. import ? The V5 gives no clue but it's unrestored and very very clean (i.e. non rusty)
I don't think it is, as the stickers are in french/german/english ?

And
Why is the sidestand so short that the bike sits over alarmingly .. ? Is it just like that .. I see bits of wood shoved under the stand in other photos ?

And
The seat is actually shot (it's nearly broken in the middle) - will any CB550 (K/F) seat fit ?

And
Is there anything I should immediately panic over and check ?
and I'll do the usual oil/air/filter, tappets etc etc

As  bloke with a shed of brit singles and russian twins then it's alarmingly quiet and civilised ..

cheers

John

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