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CB350/400 / Re: So just what CB400F is it?
« on: October 24, 2021, 07:22:54 PM »
400-4's had 130 mph speedo's (as picture) up until frame number 1044029, then 120mph.
110mph speedos are I believe actually 250G5 units.

Also picture of the road test bike JGC 606N as it is today....

Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: HELP ... NOT ENOUGH HOLES IN MY CARB BACK PLATE 😢😢😢
« on: November 20, 2020, 07:09:06 PM »
Previous reply should of read...
I think you meant later K2's when you suggested some had a LEFT side petrol tap. Those later bikes had the extra hole at the left side of the mounting plate (and so three holes in fact).

Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: HELP ... NOT ENOUGH HOLES IN MY CARB BACK PLATE 😢😢😢
« on: November 20, 2020, 07:06:21 PM »
There is a second hole in your plate - just above and to the right of the hole you have already fed a pipe through, when viewed from the front. The pipe from between the number 1 and 2 carbs goes along the back of carb numbers 2 and 3 and then in between numbers 3 and 4 and through the second hole. (I have just this week rebuilt the carbs for my late 1971 K2)
I think you meant later K2's when you suggested some had a right side petrol tap. Those later bikes had the extra hole at the left side of the mounting plate (and so three holes in fact).

Routing therefore as per the earlier K1 as already commented.

Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: Major problem fitting exhausts.
« on: July 14, 2020, 07:24:12 PM »
I suspect your brackets are actually from a 550 which used a 10mm diameter mounting bolt. Other than the hole, they appear the same as the 750K6 ones.

Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: Classic Mechanics - Brighton Bike
« on: November 23, 2019, 06:59:46 PM »

A LONG time since I have replied to a post on here, but on this occasion I thought I would offer an opinion based on my own observations regarding registrations of  early model CB750’s.
Manufacture of die cast engine CB750’s did not commence until September 1969 (I have an early diecast, VIN 1008054, with 9/69 build date on the VIN plate). There are late sandcast engine CB750’s with a build date of 9/69 too. For this reason a “G” registration is not correct on any die cast bike, and would only be expected to occur if the bike has been incorrectly dated for the purposes of UK registration.
I believe there was however a time when local DVLA offices (the one in Sheffield for instance) would accept the original US title as evidence of age – and in many cases the “date first sold” on these documents would appear only as 00/00/69. In such a case the local office would allocate the registration letter for the first part of the year (G) as opposed to the later part of the year (H).
This happened to me with my 9/69 die cast; having queried the allocated reg. they did backtrack and give it a “correct” H registration.

Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: The difference between US and UK spec
« on: March 28, 2011, 12:47:14 PM »
US spec F2's did keep the F1 style rear indicators mounted to the chrome rail arrangement (but with larger winkers of course).
In my view a more stylish arrangement, and better too due to the UK rear lamp bracket not being man enough to carry the weight of the winkers as well as the rear light and number plate - the UK lamp bracket cracks eventaully and eventually falls off taking the rear light, winkers and number plate with it - it happened to me somewhere between Lincoln and Sheffield back in '83 (never did find the missing bits!), and  every other UK rear bracket I have found since has been cracked / re-welded below the top two mountiong nuts, and around the lower one.
Cheers - Cris R.

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CB750 / Re: Cylinder bolts
« on: March 28, 2011, 12:35:47 PM »
Pretty sure I can find a set of standard ones in okay condition - give me call on 0114 2466234.

Cheers - Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: Honda KO drive sprockets
« on: March 12, 2011, 08:44:54 PM »
As Brian says, larger sprocket at front = less load on the chain, and the 18T as fitted to K1 - K6 bikes is the largest which will fit at the front. The original fitment to the very early bikes was actually a 16T front which Honda theirselves superceded to a 17T as a result of chain / crankcase braekages, before going to 18 / 48 from the K1 onwards.

I actually run my '69 with an 18 front /  45 rear. Keeps the revs down a touch when cruising, but still pulls well enough ( and if I need more acceleration, thats what the gear lever is for).

Now if traffic light grand prix' are your thing , try a 16 front / 48 rear!

Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: Camshaft - hot, cold or otherwise?
« on: December 24, 2010, 08:48:51 PM »
A cam shaft with an R-- number on it is 99% certain to be a standard Honda cam. They started at R1 in '69, and the R number tends to increase as the years / models roll by. Whether the number next to the R indicates the mold/ casting / forging, or in some way relates to the lift (though I have never measured a difference in lobe height which could be related to the R number) / angles, or date range / model range is certainly not dcoumented that I have found so far. Having stripped 30+ of these engines over the years I have only ever found ONE non Honda camshaft - and that DEFINATELY did not have an R number on it.

Cheers - Chris R.


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CB750 / Re: Mileage?
« on: December 18, 2010, 07:48:17 PM »
My '69 sandcast is at 116,000 now (94,000 of them are mine). Cam chain, primary chain, and tensioners were changed at 32,000 when the head gasket needed doing. Every other major part is factory still (pistons, rings, valves, crank shells, clutch plates, etc. It is not the quietest CB750 motor on the planet, but does not burn oil still (not like my F2!) and goes great. Even the rear wheel sprocket is original still, with negligible wear showing (I do fit a new drive chain every time the rear tyre is changed though, and of course it has never seen UK winter weather).
There is an F1 in the Uk with over 150,000 miles up now; no idea what work if any has been necessary.

I also have a 400/4 I used daily throughout the 80's which reached 108,000, again without any major work. Still ran good, but due to winter use evrthing that could rot away did, so I stopped using it and restored that one.

Chris R.


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Misc / Open / Re: Withdrawal Symptoms
« on: December 05, 2010, 08:09:01 PM »
You are right, its what every one else does on the roads that can be the problem. But, I have never owned a car (commuted by bike for 34 years now), and faced with a 7 mile journey to work, no buses or trains, no holiday left and wanting to get paid, I made the best of it. Enjoyable - No! Necessary - sadly, yes.

The salt is indeed having a good time with the 400 - its on its second frame already, the other having rotted through at the rear shock mounts. Hopefully it will last till retirement and can then go for scrap! Can't save them all.

Chris R.

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Misc / Open / Re: Withdrawal Symptoms
« on: December 04, 2010, 10:10:10 PM »
Hi Pete,
Been to work on my 400/4 every day this week here in Sheffield. NOBODY could get in by car.

Interesting to say the least riding through 12" of snow - but at least you can push a bike out of trouble. No plans to go out this weekend though!

Cheers - Chris R.


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CB750 / Re: MCM Jan 78 Article
« on: December 01, 2010, 01:05:24 PM »
Hi all,
The satin finish shields were fitted to all pre - K1 CB750's.

When I restored my first CB750 back in the early '90's, the plater I used "satin polished" a pair of bright chrome shields and achieved  an acceptable dull chrome look. I guess its a matter of finding a plater who is prepared to do something a little different. I know of some one who painted his shields satin silver - you had to look real close to know!
I have been fortunate to find over the years 2 NOS Honda satin shields, still in the wrapper (and only 2 in 25 years of collecting/restoring CB750's). Unfortunately, the finish of these is so different that I would find it hard to reconcile using them on the same bike, even though you only ever see one at a time! Keep hoping to come accross another NOS one which will match one or other of them!
I have used a pair of the Yamiya ones, but was not impressed with the quality - you could see "stains" in the plating in a couple of places which I guess corresponded to the wire attachment points on the inside during plating. It is perhaps worth me saying that my experiences with Yamiya have not been good  - I have had a number of items which have not been perfect and which they have not been interested in sorting an exchange for (Given the prices they charge, my view is that the quality and "after care" are less than satisfactory).

If it were I Ash, I would look to find some s/h chrome shields and talk to a plater about getting them re-finished "dull". If you already have NOS bright chrome ones, you could just use them as is till s/h ones turn up for re-finishing.

Bryan J is spot on regarding Dave Silver's Prices; the large increase in many prices is as a result of Honda having hiked their prices. You will probablly find that DSS prices are cheaper than if you go direct through a Honda dealer (for parts still available), and at least they are interested in what you are doing. Most Honda dealers know nothing about, and are not interested in getting older parts. Having spoken to the guys at DSS on Monday this week, the pending court case being brought BY Honda against DSS is worrying - if Honda get there way our hobby could become infinitely more difficult!

Cheers - Chris R.



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CB750 / Re: KO side panel badges
« on: November 05, 2010, 07:37:45 PM »
The early die cast ("monkey metal") tank caps WILL re-chrome perfectly, but only if in good condition to start with - ie dulled with minimal corrosion / damage. Prestige electro plating at Dinnington did a grand job on mine (shame about the wheel rim they did though!)  - If there is anything other than minor blistering / pitting on these early caps then de-chroming process will leave significant pits ( I understand the stripping process takes away all the chrome + any corrosion / oxide, hence you get an evet bigger pit where the corrosion was) The polisher then can't  remove enough material to get past these pits and so you end up with new chrome which is pitted.

Cheers - Chris R.

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CB750 / Re: Discs and carriers
« on: November 03, 2010, 01:01:32 PM »
Sure looks like a standard "K" series CB750 front disc.

Cheers - Chris R.

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