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Not sure what specifically did it but I spent some time on the throttle cable adjustments for opening & closing plus altered the angle of the point where the cable unions  connect to the throttle body so that the curves on the cables followed the line better. I did look in Ash's Dropbox but could not find anything that helped me. (probably looked in the wrong places)

ATM the cable routes go from the the throttle, loop down between the forks then follow the frame above the round tank mount (can easily be moved to below the mount above the coils). Photos to follow as I'm going out for lunch & my phone connection is on my PC not the laptop I'm using.

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Good progress Ted. Why did you use copper rather than ss washers on the valve cover ? I would love to see a photo of those bolts you used next to the tappet covers on the front. Your engine paint looks great. I’m  way behind now - haven’t rebuilt my carbs yet. Looking forward to your first start up. 👍

Photo of bolt Dave only fitted them to the two outer front bolt holes where the issues were with fitting the cam caps due to cost.

Cam caps in photo have not been cleaned up as I have some standard replacements - the chromed ones I bought from DS are too bling as well as my concern over the threads.

.cam cover bolt by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr

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Project Board / Re: Project CB350F
« on: October 25, 2023, 10:02:38 AM »
Interesting read, I look forward to reading your progress.

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Workshop manual or parts book shows the six bolts use copper washers. When I bought the pack I just used the left overs rather than SS. The small ones at the front corners are flange bolts.

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Misc / Open / Re: Supersport
« on: October 24, 2023, 06:09:56 PM »
TBH I did not expect it to have 3 disc brakes at that age.
Shame it's way too heavy for me as I could be tempted otherwise.

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Ted, that bike is coming along nicely, some nice work done there. Looking forward to start up!

Thanks Johnny nice to get some positive strokes - that said I also take on board comments that point out things thate are wrong or missing.

When my 500 is done I have decided before thinking about another proect to re-visit my 400 as there are some things I can now do better.

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No lube on Honda cables Ted, ruins the sleeving and coating.
Routing is very important, should be something on Ashs dropbox, pdi i think that shows route

Thanks I will take a look.

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Humour / Re: Dad joke
« on: October 24, 2023, 05:31:43 PM »
There was a driving school in Derby in the 1960's run by Brian & Mimi Hazard - the 'Hazard School of Motoring'  as a student I did some weekend part time work as an instructor in dual control Vauxhall Viva (HA). In those days there were no minimum age limits.

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SOHC Singles & Twins / Re: New project has arrived!!
« on: October 24, 2023, 05:20:48 PM »
That is a very nice looking project Matt - not a box of bits for a change.

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I have fitted the new throttle cables this afternoon - throttle return is okay but feels a little bit three penny bit on the return when you let go of the throttle completely. Action feels like a sort of spiral binding.
Should I have lubricated the new cables first?

My cable routing might be questionable as they pass through the forks.

Nice reduced amount of throttle rotation needed for full throttle as a result of fitting the throttle tube that Ken told me about. (CB1300)

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No fuse holder Ted?

Missing the black plastic cover off the kickstart lever. Keeps the crap out of the knuckle joint. Seem to recall someone making them and selling them on Ebay. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/143595737695?hash=item216ef9125f:g:ZOQAAOSw3axerz5U&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAAwLuy3C3OQhU4zlKnwPJLWjEOmwDTqoW1C5kHiSHqlK85R9s%2F5Q6TMEOfXlqcNbqJJsd7ra2JWQx4GyVXOhS5%2Bk9W3%2FFJOy419uId7Ul%2BEjAusA%2FC%2Fm78u6CDjZqKs0nfY954LwyCiRg%2FQPaQHRBhuXuzTdscUV%2F2BO%2Bz7AgJmZutQsZX0n%2Fsx8aMgGi89k7gTVzQpkPuST7waq%2BRreNqsCqPFaEnmpbNpI%2B6a5d82EqUPIJ%2BYpjj09AlH8SdA2UUcg%3D%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR9Dw4ZLsYg

Be careful using domed nuts on the intake manifolds, I've found that unless they are really deep ones there is a chance the nut bottoms out on the bolt, you think it's tightened up so you stop, then you find it isn't tight and it's allowing air to be pulled in past the oring.

Something like these are better. I use those on the exhaust studs as well, keeps the thread from rusting and you struggling to remove them afterwards.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/295955048209?hash=item44e84ba711:g:XTMAAOSwZ5llFtdk&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA0Cteh8SGnUw1Cx5gGQNUNWk%2Fejj9ygmWcb8sM%2BhHl0q6dxR6LxnzIdhQmbm51gnqCo1%2FHHZ0GzUsS04C%2B8dIhZ34JXoy4Q9ylIvKkGC2s69LhsmX4ZDDMCUZcyX5jKJMOUVTnMRGxF3m%2B9uKL3JLDnxsAVdhxZib3GaqcA6JIHbbib1Mod1rT%2BmUFDXckfd%2FUIlBrXbmdQlVJkX7D9r2p2GmTHHvC0xL1cIpssi6T%2B8tRrmIi8YMZferhjonCygZpot%2FOBVxUJ8Yrv6p5Zio5j8%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR5qKx5LsYg

Not supposed to be a grommet on the tooltray Ted although I suspect you know that. It doesn't rattle in use so it's not really needed TBH.

The HT cap shown is wrong for that location, that's for 2 & 3 cylinders, the outer ones use a long right angled one.

Coming on, starting to look the part. I suspect the breather cover is off a 550 BTW, the vent pipe outlet comes out on the other side to the 500 one IIRC.

Pay attention to the way the bolt fits for the rear brake lever adjusting bolt, can't remember offhand which way it fits, bolt head down or up but it's one you can't change over without removing stuff so it's better to get it right before fitting the brake lever. The workshop manual shows it bolt head up but there is a pic in there I'm convinced shows it bolt head down. I'd fit it bolt head up myself.

NOT criticisms, just comments you may or may not find useful.

Thanks for the feedback Ken it is very helpful.

I expected some comments on my excessive use of copper washers on the cam cover.
My temporary fuse holder was on the live side - now removed - what fuse holder do you mean?
The domed manifold nuts were fitted by Bryan and are a tall domed type.
Plug caps - my bad just wanted the overlong wires out of the way.
I fitted the grommet to hold down the front of the tray as it tends to stand up on the left side with no seat in place.
I'll see if one of my rubber blanking grommets fits the kick start - I might even have one from a 400 lever I had.

Sorry in advance Ash for the SS Hex Head side cover bolts - fitted by PO.

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Carbs now fitted & air filter housing in place.
Fitted small gromett to air filter lid  so it holds onto the bolt head at the front.

.airbox fitted by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr


.carbs back on by Macabe Thiele, on Flickr

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CB500/550 / Re: I must be stupid but how does air chamber fit?
« on: October 23, 2023, 07:33:52 PM »
Thanks Ken I have done that ended up taking off the right hand upper engine mounting bracket so I could do a better job of the earth contact.
Air box manifold went in a treat - just need to finalise the air filter box mounting as it looks as though there ought to be some spacer inserts looking at the parts manual. Looks as though there were some modifications.
Mine is held in place by two bolts at the front & one at the rear top.

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CB500/550 / Re: I must be stupid but how does air chamber fit?
« on: October 23, 2023, 02:17:28 PM »
Thanks Ken.

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CB500/550 / I must be stupid but how does air chamber fit?
« on: October 23, 2023, 01:55:28 PM »
Thought I would bob the carbs onto the engine - not difficult - nicely in place nipped up the circlips.
Thought I might as well pop the 4 into 1 air chamber box onto the carb intakes.
It will not fit from the carb side of the frame so tried popping it down from the top in the middle of the frame with the battery & battery box removed but it is stll too big to fit past the right side of the frame.
I have the four rubbers fitted to the plastic air chamber box - I can get the rubber onto number 1 carb but the other end will not get past the frame!


Do I need to remove the right hand upper engine mounting bracket to get the end of the air chamber box past the frame or is there some other rubics cube route that I am missing?

I have removed the carbs again just in case!!


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