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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 14, 2016, 06:09:04 AM »
 ;D ;D ;D

I'm sure I'll get there. Just get the odd day when I look at it and wonder what the hell I'm doing, it's so far gone.

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 10:09:00 PM »
Bodd has straight bars on his bike.He has plenty of pictures in the gallery to give you an idea.

Superb lead, thank you.  8)

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 10:07:43 PM »
Chris, yes, I had wondered about the rear sets interfering with the rear pegs, still trying to figure that one out. Maybe I should revisit clubman bars.  ???

Julie, you have me wondering if I have the right bars now. The ones I took off are a million miles off straight or low. I need to find a way to check. When I say straight bars, I do mean literally straight, not even slight angles in there. Wonder if that may be too aggressive / Street fighter though. Not what I am going for at all.

Take your point on mock ups and not knowing until ridden, but hoping I can at least get a feel for pressure on wrists and back. I suffer with my lower back and legs due to the insane amount of miles I do a year, for a lot of years, so should be able to tell pretty quickly if it's a definite no-go. At least I can discount the howlers then and then take time to find out by riding.

All working on the heroic assumption I can get it going, of course.  ;D

Chris, yes I am worried about the frame damage too now.

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 09:40:40 PM »
I do agree, but there is just no point trying to make this standard, it would cost so much to get it there.

Much thinking and listening to the opinions of those who have done it before to do. Might cut a bit of old tubing to length and mock up some straight bars to test feel. Not sure how to mock up clip on's.  ???

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 09:25:39 PM »
Julie, yes I think that rear sets would be a necessity with clip on's, but trying to figure it all out in my head. Can't really mock up without parts, so a bit chicken and egg.

From yours and Mick's comments, I do have my reservations about clip on's, though I like the look. My reservations about actually being able to ride it comfortably are what made me suddenly think about straight bars. Head spinner.  :(

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 08:45:04 PM »
 ;D

Righto, well while I have your eyes, I shall ask opinions and advice.

Now getting bogged down with riding position v's aesthetics, v's budget. I'm thinking I can save a lot of the front end now, apart from the tubes, so now I have abandoned the modern front end idea to save funds. That took me straight back to clip on's, but there are so many available I don't really know where to start. Can the quality be that different that I should pay a rake of money, or just buy relatively cheap?

If I go clip on's, I have two concerns.

1. My poor old back... What are they REALLY like to ride?
2. If I go that route, I can't be doing the bar clamps reassembled and just sat there sticking up. So that means a bespoke machined piece, (pricey, so no) or grinding them off here :

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So that leaves me to ask :

A. How well will the casting take to being ground down and
B. Will I get lynched for cutting up genuine parts...  :-X

Lastly, clubmans got me all excited at one point, then I decided I prefer the look of clip on's, so is there any reason to look further at them? Any advantages?

And then I had a sudden urge to go dead straight bars. Bluntly, has anyone done this and does it look great or bobbins?  ??? ;D

Many questions, but welcome your input!

Thanks in advance, you helpful lot.  ;)

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 07:21:50 PM »
Thanks All, that's very encouraging to hear. Mick, is that you that keeps making my security light go off...  :o

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 06:17:58 PM »
Sound advice on the frame, Laverda-man, I definitely intend to. Where did you get it checked for £70? Sounds worth a look if they are specialist.

Good to know the progress is of interest. I will certainly keep posting my amateur hour attempts as long as I know I'm not talking to myself.  ;D

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 04:04:00 PM »
This is the replacement lock I used:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LENKERSCHLOSS-Lenkschlos-Steering-lock-Serrure-de-cadre-f-div-Honda-KAWASAKI-/231962410367?hash=item3602097d7f:g:TG8AAOSwR5dXTVIv
It comes with full instructions including how to remove the old lock when you don't have the key, but I don't seem to have kept a copy.
Basically you need to drill the old lock (6mm from memory but may be wrong) then there is a pin you need to hook out to free the mechanism.

Also found this thread which may help:
http://www.sohc.co.uk/index.php/topic,4947.0.html

Both excellent links, cheers Chris.  8)

Pleased that it looks cheap fix too. Have to admit, there was a temptation to just plug it and not use it...  :-X

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 03:59:19 PM »
 ;D Love it.

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 13, 2016, 03:20:36 PM »
Most people bin the old bearings in favour of taper roller bearings so no worries there. 

It was more the embarrassment factor having just given the lecture.  :-[

If the stand just needs "persuasion", then that's OK, just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something and about to break something irreparable.

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 12, 2016, 10:45:43 PM »
Frame finally stripped (apart from the steering lock and the centre stand...) finally able to see the full horror of the starting point.

A selection of the worst bits, below.  :(

What do you say about this? Just completely split apart.
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Looks like the whole tube has been split / cut / welded at some point. Think it will just have to be cut out and start again.

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Guessing this shouldn't have that bend in it.  :o

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Just look how this is folded over.

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 12, 2016, 10:33:55 PM »
Not sure you can see properly from those photos, but sure you lot will know what I mean, having done it before.

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 12, 2016, 10:32:12 PM »
Dropped the front out, whilst giving Jess a lecture about not losing the head bearings, so of course having let her carefully get the top lot out into a tin, I slipped and the whole lot dropped and fired the bottom lot all over the workshop!  ::) >:( ;D

Much "fun" was had chasing them round the floor and getting ribbed by the girl... D'oh!

Parked the rest of the front up complete, as it is going to take some jiggery pokery to get it apart, everything rusted in. Moved on to getting the swinging arm out, no huge issues there, but the centre stand turned into a nightmare. Nothing in my manual about removal, am I missing something?!?  ???

Looks to me like a hollow tube, one end flared, but it doesn't want to pull out. I tried putting a socket against the non-flared end and using the gentle persuading stick (FBH) but it only moves a few mm. Is there a trick to this?

This is all I can see to push

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and the flared end...

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Project Board / Re: 75 CB400 "Dad's old bike" project
« on: November 12, 2016, 10:12:25 PM »
The lock is held in by the domed head rivet and the washer.  Try removing the rivet with wire cutters or pincers, save for re use.  Once that's out of the way you need the key to remove the lock.   As you haven't got one then you'll have to drill it out.   Take care not to snap the bit.

Had an horrible feeling it may be drilling it out.  :-[ Will get the drill out next week, then. Cheers, Mike.

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