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Project Board / Re: 30 years of storage later, the project begins.
« on: January 16, 2021, 02:49:57 AM »
Well the bike is still a work in progress, well not so much progress as lack of progress. Still collecting parts, just found the last gear I needed to have a complete NOS gearbox, every part is NOS, shafts, bearings, ciclips, thrust washers, selector drum and forks even down to the pins and clips for the forks. Got a new set of shell bearings for the crank, just in case, engine is not dismantled yet, that will be the last thing I do.

Need to go to the powder coaters but lockdown prevents that, also need to sort out my tanks and side panels for painting. Got lots to do but things are stopping me from doing them. Once I get the frame done I can start to assemble what I've got done and I suspect the bug will bite then and I'll start to blitz it. Looking forward to the first ride but that's some time away yet.

CB750 / Re: Very grubby block connectors.
« on: January 16, 2021, 02:25:00 AM »
Not got an ultrasonic cleaner but the wife has a jewellery cleaner that vibrates, I wonder if I took the wires out of the blocks and dropped them in that it would work, worth a try.

CB500/550 / Re: Engine teardown and inspection
« on: January 11, 2021, 12:12:21 AM »
I had loads of those shims, I ordered what I thought was 2 of each and they ended up being in packets of 10s, so I had 20 of each in the end. They were in a box in the outside shed for years but of course as soon as you want them they go missing, still haven't found them yet. I'm tearing the shed down this year so maybe they'll show up then.

CB500/550 / Re: Engine teardown and inspection
« on: January 10, 2021, 03:25:28 AM »
LMAO, that confused the f--k out of me. What's the sharp edge and what's the smooth edge?, why not just say, the flat edge and the beveled edge. Sharp edge must be the flat edge as if the bevel is against the thrust washer only the top of the bevel would contact it. Bloody Japanese, can't say anything straight, they have to speak in terminology that most people would struggle to decipher. 

Desperately Seeking!! / Re: CB500K1 Neutral switch
« on: January 09, 2021, 07:38:35 PM »
If you have another set spare Bryan I'll take one, I have no idea what state the one on my engine is yet but best to be prepared. Plus I've finally got every part for a complete NOS gearbox, all the gears, all the washers, circlips, shafts, bearings, selector drum, pins, pin clips and selectors. I'm just missing the right hand selector at the moment. Might as well complete it with a neutral selector.

CB500/550 / Re: Engine teardown and inspection
« on: January 09, 2021, 04:34:39 PM »
You have it correct but, push the first washer down and place the tab washer on top as, you have in your second picture. Then turn the first washer in the groove on the shaft and the tab washer will key in  ;)

With your first washer and the circlips you, must have these facing the correct way.

Just going off my memory here but IIRC the circlips are fitted so that the flat side goes against the gear and the curved side goes against the thrust washer, been quite a few years now since I split a gearbox and curiously the workshop manual makes no mention of the orientation of the circlips, which is odd as you'd expect Honda to have noted that for mechanics. In fact the gearbox section of the manual is virtually non-existent.

Just confirm my memory is correct Trig as it would not only confirm I'm not quite senile yet but help anyone else assembling a gearbox in the future.

« on: January 09, 2021, 04:02:42 PM »
I've got 2 sets on my CB1300 and before that I've had sintered. I prefer them to sintered, they create less dust, warm up faster and perform extremely well in all conditions. As good as organic IMO with less dust and seem to be kinder to the discs.

No problem mate, happy to help, sorry it couldn't be better news.

You'd need to go for all 8 I'm afraid. In theory as they are all Brown you COULD re-use the bottom 4 shells as they aren't too bad, it's a bit of a desperation move but if you were cash strapped it would work.

Just looked and my rod bearings are 4 black and 4 green, no browns. I did count how many black main bearings I had and I was very surprised, enough to do a few engines completely.

They are either Brown or Green, any sign of colour on the shells? If in doubt go with Brown.

CMS seem to be cheapest, not sure if I have any, will look later if you want.

TBH and hate to be the bearer of bad news but the rod bearings aren't in the best of condition, the one furthest to the right has some sort of surface marking and all the others are showing wear. I've seen worse re-used and it's a shame you don't know the colour as the bottom shells look much better and you could have salvaged them. Any colour showing? what numbers are on the rods?

If money is tight I'd re-use them other than that replace them whilst it's apart and make sure you change the oil frequently according to Honda advice.

BBAAA means that the B ones, namely the 2 next to the rotor can only be either Green or Brown, the A ones can only be Green or Yellow. My advice would be fit Brown where the Bs are and Green where the As are and run in carefully.

That's brown.

Nope, even I can't see them.

Have you checked the sides of the original shells? sometimes you can make out the colour which is printed there, it's at the bottom on the very edge.

Best bet would be as Bryan says and fit all black shells and run the engine in carefully, finding 10 black shells however is next to impossible and if you did they command high prices because they are so scarce now.

I've been collecting black shells for some years now, sometimes you only get 1 but then find another a few months later. No one buys them in 1s as they are next to useless without the matching black but if your willing to wait you can eventually find another. I bought a few from Australia a few years ago and they came in pairs in a box, never seen that before. I've probably got the largest amount of them in one place in the world, 90% are still in original bags unopened but sometimes I'd get them not in bags but you could clearly see the black marking on the side, I sold a couple last year to another member who needed a pair of black shells.

You can clearly see the colour black on the side of the shell it the Italian pic. So you know where to look on your old ones.

The next size down would be brown not green, those are easier to find. If you want to fit blacks let me know and we can discuss it.

Oh, and I can't see the shark either, I thought I had it at one point, I could see the fin and the snout but nothing else.

CB500/550 / Re: Newbie 550 F2 refurb
« on: January 05, 2021, 03:34:33 PM »
Looks to be off a bike where they used a small latch to hold the seat up, you can see the mounting for the pole.

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